Gruffudd & Alice Evans #218 Mr Gruffudd loves his children very, very much

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Foster care would offer more stability than staying with Alice. They wpuld no longer be walking on eggshells and living with her anger and social media obsession.
 
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I'm glad that Bianca is no longer hiding her light under a bushel. She is young, she deserves to live her life without having to worry about the crazy antics of her partner's ex-wife. That is no way to live.
 
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Bianca is just pure class, Alice is just all arse.
This is great, really made me smile I don’t remember either Alice or Ioan ever posting something so affectionately jokey about each other. Alice’s posts were dressed up as self-depreciating jokes but were always just veiled put-downs.
 
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When I’ve had a drink I usually buy random musical instruments. My kalimba playing is getting quite good though.
 
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The one thing that I dislike is how how slow (IMO) Ioan has been in tackling the alienation. I am not sure if this is actually due to Anne K's advice (and she delayed a lot on the Brad Pitt case too, until the PA was pretty much solid) or due to Ioan's caution/fear or whether he was angry and did not want to engage. We will never know. But over 3 years alienation is a very very very long time in the life of any child. From 11-14 children literally undergo the most complex changes they ever will and move from children to young adults. It is an absolutely crucial time in emotional development (other than the 3-7 year old time). Alice at this time was totally drunk often, on video and going nuts on Twitter. I understand he could not come in and take his children, but he was far far too weak/sympathetic in this time. The absolute length of time she was able to prevent him seeing the girls and the girls insane behaviour (running away, refusing to visit) was huge. And during that time he was working less and therefor available to see the girls more.And all it would do is reinforce Alice's narratives that their father doesn't care - "Girls, would I lie to you? Have I ever? Your father doesn't want to see you - he hasn't even phoned you for xxx weeks. would NEVER do that - I would phone you every day - I have never left you to sleep without checking you are breathing, how could I leave you for even a day?"
I feel incredibly sorry for Ioan, but don't think the Bianca relationship helped. I understand he needs to be happy too, but this is a situation which is hugely complex. A normal family would have been able to navigate a new partner, had it been sensitively planned, but Ioan did not even let his girls know he was dating. It's just such a fuck up, and I honestly can't see how it will get better. Hopefully, the reunification will help and he can move to Australia or UK with the girls, but if it doesn't, well I hope that he and Bianca are able to have a long and happy life together. Otherwise everything is for shit.
 
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Crazy when you realise isn’t it? What’s normal and what definitely isn’t…then it’s like a whole reprogramming but the effects of being around abusive people / in abusive relationships stay with you for a long time.

Certainly with me, the effects of what my daughters Dad did to me have stayed with me…don’t like sudden loud noises. Can’t have my phone on ring at all ( he used to call constantly - he was at sea a lot and needed to know my whereabouts 24/7. Then when we split he’d call and leave abusive messages so I just turned my phone off ring and unless I’m expecting a call I never have it on). There’s loads of other small things that will stay with me forever…Just little things like that, when you look back and the penny drops - I was very young when I got with him ( he was 9 years older ) so I thought all relationships were like this. Even the violence. Because he was my first “serious” boyfriend, extremely naive and very easy to control very very quickly. Young minds are so impressionable…

I don’t know if that penny will drop for the girls - I really hope so. But I don’t think it’ll happen for years. At least though, that no matter how much time passes, we can be pretty much 100% sure that Ioan will welcome them back to him with open arms.
 
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Ioan was Alice's pension plan!
 
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It ruined their plans that the video didn’t end up on here I think. Surprised they didn’t make an account and load it themselves as they use to do these things back in the day, like doxx people on here with newly made accounts. Perhaps they can’t register an account atm.
 
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Tattle is closed to new accounts just now. Remember when we had some new (and suspect) accounts recently? It’s been closed to newbies since then. Always wondered if those were Tattle alt accounts.
 
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This is the dead giveaway that the account was Alice for me….




This is exactly what she did when they went to New York for work. She posted pic after pic of her with Ioan on her official Twitter account.
 
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Alice was closing in on 40 when she signed the prenup multiple times, how can a woman of that age not know what she is signing. Of course she knew.
 
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Alice was closing in on 40 when she signed the prenup multiple times, how can a woman of that age know what she is signing. Of course she knew.
She had $13 in her account and thought he was the next James Bond. She had trauma bonded him and thought she was set for life.
 
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I remember Ioan trying to talk to the girls about Bee. Something that Al was furious about Am I imagining things?
 
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Ioan has Anne only since last year. His previous lawyer ran the same strategy, the strategy every lawyer would run because aggresive litigation usually backfires on child custody matters as it usually gets weaponised.

Now with the benefit of hindsight Ioan knows that Alice managed to manipulate the kids even with his very soft approach, and he also knows that Alice would never settle on anything. with that knowledge it's possible that his team would have opted to be more aggresive, but again, they didnt anticipated it, and even if they did it isn't necessarily better.

I continue to disagree about the relationship aspect, because I saw the video of Ella acting out in his apartment in spring 2021 and we saw already that she was generally impossible to deal with at that point in his court submissions. Bianca has nothing to do with this IMO. It didnt made it easier of course. But Alice would have continued to sabotage his relationship to the kids regardless of her. The only wildcard is Elsie (since she happily went to his place before France), but I strongly suspect had Ioan returned as a single to LA back then from France Alice would have withholded her as a punishment for still not coming back. In fact, IIRC Alice claimed at one point that Elsie only went to him (aka she allowed it) because she thought it would bring him back.


I remember Ioan trying to talk to the girls about Bee. Something that Al was furious about Am I imagining things?
yeah, she was furious when a few weeks after the reveal he talked to Elsie and mentioned what he did with Bianca today.

Not only was the reveal taken off his hands by Alice, he also wasnt allowed to then normalize the fact that he has a girlfriend either.
 
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