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Well done Angelina, well done Busy, well done parents who stand strong and sensible and let their kids have a phase without sending them for irreversible medical meddling. And then they grow out of it and parents are relieved and the pro trans people are disappointed.
I’m not sure Busy Philippa deserves accolades because she was all over the media crowing about her non-binary 12 year old. Glad to see the girl is back to being a girl. Must have been hard to backtrack when the entire planet knew she identified as NB.
 
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In the article it describes his conversation with an 11 year old: Radcliffe responded: 'But there are also people who also have a slightly condescending but well-meaning attitude of, "people are young... and it is a huge decision.’

That's not condescending, that's sensible. He's a 33 year old man. Why is he telling this 11 year old that people are being condescending when they tell her she needs more time to be sure. He's meant to be making a documentary. He shouldn't be influencing the children in it. What does he know about transgenderism really?
What kids don’t have is informed consent. When I was a kid I wanted what I wanted now, and had no forethought for the future until it was too late because I was so sure in my head what I wanted. I couldn’t see more than several months into the future. To me it sound as if he’s telling these kids that adults are bad, but he’s a cool adult, because he ‘gets it’.

When I was 28 my doctor wouldn’t tie my tubes in case I ‘changed my mind’, but kids know themselves well enough to make life altering decisions? The amount of phases I went through when young and grew out of…

One of the young people discussing it with him says how they didn’t like stereotypical boys things and therefore knew they weren’t a boy. How can anyone think that it’s ok to medicalise themselves because they don’t like particular toys or colours?

And as for Radcliffe telling the kids that adults are being condescending and don’t know what they’re talking about, it is as the cool kids say, ‘giving Jeffrey Marsh’.
 
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What kids don’t have is informed consent. When I was a kid I wanted what I wanted now, and had no forethought for the future until it was too late because I was so sure in my head what I wanted. I couldn’t see more than several months into the future. To me it sound as if he’s telling these kids that adults are bad, but he’s a cool adult, because he ‘gets it’.

When I was 28 my doctor wouldn’t tie my tubes in case I ‘changed my mind’, but kids know themselves well enough to make life altering decisions? The amount of phases I went through when young and grew out of…

One of the young people discussing it with him says how they didn’t like stereotypical boys things and therefore knew they weren’t a boy. How can anyone think that it’s ok to medicalise themselves because they don’t like particular toys or colours?

And as for Radcliffe telling the kids that adults are being condescending and don’t know what they’re talking about, it is as the cool kids say, ‘giving Jeffrey Marsh’.
Saying that boys who like pink or dolls are actually girls and that girls who don't like those things are actually boys is the most stupid, ridiculous, regressive idea I've ever heard. It gives me such rage.
 
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Six months ago I didn't know about puberty blockers. I did know that transsexuals had to permanently take hormones, and that genital surgery existed. I also believed that these were regulated in the same way that other prescription medication and surgeries are. My limited experience with transsexuals had been positive.

Because of the trans activists wanting to invade women's spaces and sports I began to search online to learn more about the subject and figure out what was happening. That's when I fell down the rabbit hole and realised how harmful these surgeries and medication can be.

These are major surgeries that can need several revisions due to fistulas, incontinence, pain - and worse. Sexual function can be diminished. People are choosing to become infertile (although men can freeze sperm in advance). And these are permanent surgeries.

I've not read much about puberty blockers, but there are valid concerns that they stop bones from developing properly and prevent the ability to orgasm - ever.

These are massive, life-changing choices that should be carefully thought through. I feel that they are hugely downplayed and many handmaidens are no idea of the consequences. Calling them cute names - "top surgery" and "bottom" surgery doesn't help either.
 
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I’ve started to wonder if ‘top surgery’ is something that women will start to ask for, in the same way as breast reduction or enhancement. If the NHS are giving this surgery to trans men and non binary females with very little therapy or questioning then surely they can’t refuse it to women who aren’t trans or nb? Obviously to me and probably the rest of you it seems barbaric but it could be one of those things that some women will think they want (again, I struggle to think why but the human race continue to baffle me on a daily basis). Would this be permitted or do you have to say you have gender dysphoria? 🤔 because why stop with your breasts? It could lead to really weird places when you think of it.
 
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Re: the ballet dancer, I think the confusion has come about because people have got mixed up between the Royal Academy of Dance and the Royal Ballet School. The Royal Academy of Dance is just an examination board, in the same way that there are examination boards for GCSEs and A-levels. Thousands and thousands of people take RAD exams each year, as this dancer has, but there is no physical school that they could have taken a place at. That's the Royal Ballet School, which is a feeder school for the Royal Ballet, and no way would this individual be offered a place there.
 
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Thank you for the clarification! I was genuinely baffled as to how such a prestigious ballet school could ever accept someone with mediocre talent, regardless of sex. Though it gives me the ick to think of an AGP prancing around in a leotard in front of other young dancers.

Re: the ballet dancer, I think the confusion has come about because people have got mixed up between the Royal Academy of Dance and the Royal Ballet School. The Royal Academy of Dance is just an examination board, in the same way that there are examination boards for GCSEs and A-levels. Thousands and thousands of people take RAD exams each year, as this dancer has, but there is no physical school that they could have taken a place at. That's the Royal Ballet School, which is a feeder school for the Royal Ballet, and no way would this individual be offered a place there.
 
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Re: the ballet dancer, I think the confusion has come about because people have got mixed up between the Royal Academy of Dance and the Royal Ballet School. The Royal Academy of Dance is just an examination board, in the same way that there are examination boards for GCSEs and A-levels. Thousands and thousands of people take RAD exams each year, as this dancer has, but there is no physical school that they could have taken a place at. That's the Royal Ballet School, which is a feeder school for the Royal Ballet, and no way would this individual be offered a place there.
I’m confused which company has let this great big lump perform a starring role in one of their productions though.

 
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It could lead to really weird places when you think of it.
For some individuals, preservation of the pen is desired, while also creating a fully functional tina. With Penile-Preserving Vaginoplasty, the tina can be created using a scrotal or other skin graft, or peritoneal tissue.

Although the context of that article is for non-binary individuals, online I've seen quite a few posts asking about this, from men who claim to identify as women.
"I don't have dysphoria about my pen" they claim.
(But this isn't a fetish, of course, and they are still a woman 🤮 ).

Would this be permitted or do you have to say you have gender dysphoria? 🤔
Requirements
To be eligible for genital surgeries, you'll need to provide two letters from mental health professionals who support your desire and medical need for surgery.

The WPATH SOC criteria for genital surgery includes a requirement for 12 continuous months of hormone therapy, but if HRT isn't medically safe or appropriate this doesn't apply. Patients should be taking some form of hormone supplementation after Orchiectomy though, either estrogen or testosterone
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Whether the requirements are the same for "Top Surgery" I don't know.

Non-Binary Options For Bottom Surgery

Gender Affirmation Surgeries
 
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It's still unbelievable to me that people think kids of this age are able to make informed decisions which will affect their entire future. It's not like getting a silly haircut or nose piercing.

Meanwhile under 18s are prohibited from drinking alcohol, smoking, getting married, voting, having a tattoo or getting an only fans account but changing sex/gender no problem!
Daniel Radcliffe is an alcoholic. I wonder how much be nodding along if one of these 11-year-olds told him they had to have a bottle of whisky daily because that’s their authentic self.
 
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I think this ideology is leading to normalising pedophillia. It will be described as a medical condition that garners sympathy and will be given a descriptive make over to go with it's new people friendly name. I said what I said 🙌
 
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I’ve started to wonder if ‘top surgery’ is something that women will start to ask for, in the same way as breast reduction or enhancement. If the NHS are giving this surgery to trans men and non binary females with very little therapy or questioning then surely they can’t refuse it to women who aren’t trans or nb? Obviously to me and probably the rest of you it seems barbaric but it could be one of those things that some women will think they want (again, I struggle to think why but the human race continue to baffle me on a daily basis). Would this be permitted or do you have to say you have gender dysphoria? 🤔 because why stop with your breasts? It could lead to really weird places when you think of it.
Very valid reasons, but on naked education there was a woman who had a breast removed due to breast cancer. She was considering having the healthy breast removed in the future as she didn’t like the constant reminder that she had been through cancer hell, and also was thinking that removing the breast would significantly reduce the chance of getting cancer in that breast one day. She met with a fellow cancer survivor who had been through the process and had both breasts removed.

I would think that if you had a high chance of getting cancer and wanted to remove the breasts (and other bits like the lymph nodes - I’m not too clued up on this) then you should be able to opt for this surgery as if it is available for transgender reasons then it should also be available for medical reasons.

Once it becomes fully recognised and people become used to seeing women with flat chests then I would think it would naturally progress to a wider audience for cosmetic reasons.
 
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I think this ideology is leading to normalising pedophillia. It will be described as a medical condition that garners sympathy and will be given a descriptive make over to go with it's new people friendly name. I said what I said 🙌
There's a whole rabbit hole of the movement to try and normalise pedophilia including "rebranding" it to "minor attracted person" 🤮
 
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I think this ideology is leading to normalising pedophillia. It will be described as a medical condition that garners sympathy and will be given a descriptive make over to go with it's new people friendly name. I said what I said 🙌
I think they will attempt to relabel pedophilia as an "alternative" sexuality that is being wrongly prosecuted because people are "born that way", there is a reason they are aligning themselves with gay rights organizations, they want to be seen the same way homosexuality was before it was decriminalized,
( I am in no way likening homosexuality to pedophilia to be clear, I am saying certain bad actors have hijacked the legitimate human rights advocacy of other marginalized groups, without any concern about harming the group they cling to)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association I mean this lot are an advocacy group FFS, Southpark mocked them back in 2000, but they are still active online.
 
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I think this ideology is leading to normalising pedophillia. It will be described as a medical condition that garners sympathy and will be given a descriptive make over to go with it's new people friendly name. I said what I said 🙌
Absolutely. The world has become more dumbed down, pushing boundaries "be kind" to allow deprivation and its leading to this...

As for Radcliffe, why is he spokesman for trans? Why is he reaching out to children? He's not Harry Potter anymore (and he was 💩 as him anyway). Will his baby be genderless until they are old enough to choose to be a wizard or muggle
 
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Ballet bloke is another attention seeking grifter. As well as dancing around in tights like a particularly ungainly cart horse he’s also been on a show about wedding dresses. ‘Say Yes to the Dress’ or something.
 
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That dense cretin Humza Yousaf taking the UK gov to court over the GRR bill. Idiot needs to read the room, majority of Scots are against it. More taxpayers money pissed away :mad:
 
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