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There is very little need to be 'harsh'. I get you are all angry about these issues but approaching someone who is having a conversation with you as 'are you stupid' does not help anyone in the conversation.
You don't educated anyone by patronising them.
I don't think Christine Mboma is intersex, I could be wrong? But the trans debate does reflect on that because the policing of women. For the record I don't think transgender athletes who have grown into adulthood as their assigned gender should be allowed to compete in their new declared gender so there is no need to treat me like the people you think are militant and straight line about these things.
Here comes the tone policing 
. Tale as old as time.
. Tale as old as time.
I feel sorry too for transgender people. To go to such extent as cutting a part of yourself you have to be extremely unwell.
But it is not women’s fault. Women don’t have to accommodate everyone.
Asking the whole world to change and to allow men in our places is like forbidding everyone to drink because some people are alcoholics.
This reaction is tale as old as time though? I'm trying to have a conversation and I am reachable, but this attitude is why both this side and the other far reaching side can't communicate because you keep falling into this sarky disrespectful shutdown behaviour.Here comes the tone policing
I'm here to learn and ask questions. I know its rich asking the internet to be respectful but I don' think I have engaged at all in this manner, I've only brought forward ideas and thoughts, never demeaned any of you.
I think you've been disingenuous. You expect everyone to respond in a tone that you find pleasing despite going over the same points repeatedly. You couch it in faux-politeness despite being pretty antagonistic. I haven't demeaned you, I've said you're engaging in tone policing, which you were.
I feel for trans women who would otherwise have been gay men. I look at the likes of Ritchie in the video posted above and wonder what kind of man he might have been had he been celebrated for who he is.
I don't feel empathy for those who demand access to women's spaces and say they're better women than we are and erase the language women use to describe themselves and all the other things we talk about. They display the same patterns of behaviour as every abusive man I've ever met.
Oh dear. I’m cringing for the halfwit who put the possessive apostrophe in “TERF’s”
You have thrown " maybe I should leave" umpteen times and about learning you frequently ignore points people make in reference to your posts instead coming back with some totally random topic.
If he was a woman he would not have won…
It’s the same pattern with handmaiden complimenting men in tights and weird makeup…
Similar to your proposal that there be a third toilet space for trans people, they don't want this. If you said this on twitter the TRA community would call you a TERF.
Christine Mboma has a DSD.
I don’t know if you realise it but your views on who should be allowed to compete in womens sports make you a transphobe according to Stonewall, Tom Daley and the TRAliban. That’s the thing, perfectly normal and reasonable views about fairness and womens rights are transphobic now. Welcome to the club!
We've responded to your questions. We even asked you more questions. You didn't respond back to them. That's pretty disrespectful wouldn't you say?
I'll repeat some of mine:
You talk about 'genuine' trans people. How do we know who is genuine or not? What qualified someone to be a genuine trans woman? A neo-tina? Fake breasts? wearing a skirt and heels? Using she/her pronouns? Putting bows in their hair?
Yeh this "maybe I should leave" I'd a big red flG for me on Tattle, as for a lot of us I think...
If anybody is going to leave, there is no need to announce it in the first place, and certainly not a 2nd, and then again…..
A transwoman wearing diapers, qualifying himself as a “Little”, drawing p.rn using real children pics…
Wtf is littlespace art? Sounds n**ce to me.
It is
Update on that stalking nutter in America
I apologise if I missed these before, there is about 10 people replying to me at once so its a lot to respond to absolutely everything. Happy to answer my opinions on this of course. I would say that based on my own heart and head it would come down to that of a medical or psychiatric professional when it comes to all out legal recognition, though my opinions are there to be moulded and defined. I'm not going to be making any major legislation anywhere in my constituency never-mind the world but I do think one persons opinion can then reflect further on those around them, so I want to form ideas so that when these topics come up with my friends or elsewhere I can engage without just giving an off the cuff answer.
When it comes to social identifying none of us can really decide on when a person decides to define themselves by different pro-nouns we can just make our own choice on if we adhere to them in our social settings. But for me its in that way as easy as just honoring someones wish and I loose nothing by doing that other than potentially making someone feel more comfortable.
So effectively, as I have said previously, I don't see it as black and white. I think if someone can go through an assessment that isn't traumatic or pushing them in either direction and then be declared genuinely transgender by a professional I would see the legal line there.
I find it funny that you resort to these names like TRAliban. I think it doesn't do you the gender critical viewpoint any favours. But if you say I'm transphobic for those views then I'm happy to be called transphobic by you because thats the opinion I've gradually come to form, willing to be changed though as I learn more. I'm not the militant in any way. I do find it tough reading terms like that though because it seems like so many people on one side hate to be called 'terfs' but they respond with similar language like that.
I feel like I have to say that I know that that is not all of you, because there is so many of you here with varying ways of discussing this, its hard to reply to one reaction without everyone taking it as a comment on them. I know that is not all of you, or all gender critical people.
I've gone to leave and then been asked questions so come back to respond as not to be rude or in the last case someone asked me a genuine question about drag that I thought was asked with genuine curiosity and zero malice so I felt respected enough to come back and answer. Thank you again to that person btw!
I was asking another question about athletes out of genuine curiosity myself, but its being framed here now as just throwing out random questions. What exactly do you want to do in this thread? Just post constant streams of trans identifying people doing bad things so you can comment on them or actually have a discussion? I feel fortunate to have come into this group somehow because I've actually learned a lot from you all, but I'm being given enemy status as if I just want to burn all of our rights to the ground.
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