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Generally sheltered men from nice backgrounds who went to posh schools, don't play any sport worth a tit and who've never ever been in a physical fight and would shrink from one if offered. Tell me I'm wrong. The street toughs get it way, way more than the so-called educated class of men who often tend to be enamoured of fashionable intellectual theory.

Any man who has ever been in an actual proper fist-based fight or trained in any contact sport or martial art knows size and strength is pretty much everything and also knows and fears what it's like to be physically humiliated, dominated and subjugated by another man. You will never get this fashionable nonsense past any MMA fighter or boxer btw. Guys in that field were the first to call the idea of trans 'women' in sport out for the dangerously dumb and unfair rit it is. Say what you like about Joe Rogan, he nailed that one years ago with the Fallon Fox fiasco. He was downright horrified that any woman should be put in the ring with a natal male. He stuck up for the female MMA fighters who were getting thumped to rit by that piece of work who hid the fact he was trans and the women only found out when they got hit harder than they'd ever been hit by any female sparring opponent or in the ring. They all described it as being hit with a strength and intensity they'd never ever considered possible before. People who fight know the difference between a man and a woman exists and is important.

Most men I know get it implicitly regardless of age - the ones that don't tend to be the type to look down on football fans as subhumans, have been to university for far too long and become overly enamoured of the works of say, Judith Butler. Call themselves feminist but won't listen to women about their actual experience and have too little brutal life experience to understand living in fear themselves. The chattering classes haven't a bleeping clue about many of life's realities.
I would tend to agree, I have a sad feeling that we have almost been too ''nice'' , maybe political correctness has gone a bit too far!

So much of trans ideology and gender based ideology, makes sense in the live and let live ....being fair to to everyone.....world.
But it doesnt make sense in the dog eat dog, survival of the fittest, natural world. Where the weakest members of a group are eaten by predators and left to die.

I was thinking of the weakest members of the group, being the ones at the back taunting and provoking everyone, and then complaining about how hurt and upset they are at everyone being mean to them!
 
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I would tend to agree, I have a sad feeling that we have almost been too ''nice'' , maybe political correctness has gone a bit too far!

So much of trans ideology and gender based ideology, makes sense in the live and let live ....being fair to to everyone.....world.
But it doesnt make sense in the dog eat dog, survival of the fittest, natural world. Where the weakest members of a group are eaten by predators and left to die.
Pretty sure I can run in heels faster than these transwomen. Also I will have carried trainers in my sensible size bag (rather than a very expensive glittery clutch) and I won’t be in a pencil skirt or have my extensions getting in the way so if there is a sabre tooth tiger attach I think I will escape.
 
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At the moment the Generation Equality forum is going on, Its to discuss the rights of women across the world, its the one that suggested social media should be better monitored.
The Generation Equality Forum is a global gathering for gender equality convened by UN Women and co-hosted by the governments of Mexico and France, in partnership with youth and civil society. The Forum kicked off in Mexico City in March and will culminate in Paris from 30 June to 2 July 2021, launching a series of concrete, ambitious and transformative actions to achieve immediate and irreversible progress towards gender equality.

This is interesting because this forum seems primarily focused on equalling up the rights of women, across the world. But they are saying their main focus is on Gender equality.
It is only words, but to me sex and gender are still 2 very separate issues.

There is to me a massive difference between women's rights to be equal at work, equal pay, equal education, equal opportunities, which to me should be fairly non negotiatable. (But I know in many countries it isnt!)

And women's rights in the home, with birth, pregnancy, childcare, marriage and/or relationships, and even perhaps with their expected roles as caregivers to elderly relatives etc, which still seems to cause immense confusion and issues!

Womens medical issues, which has to be sexual in its base which is a massive undeveloped area, including menstruation, hormonal complaints, like thyroid issues, menopause, endometriosis. Even things like needing time off for pregnancy and birth and to nurse children...

And womens right to be a woman, to be whoever they want to be, to wear dresses, make up, trousers or whatever they want to wear, out of the uniforms of work or everyday life.

Gender and sex go across all of these, and tangle into them and around them, so much that at times it can be tricky to untangle which is which.

What we do need to do though, is maybe focus on the strengths that women have, and see if these strengths can be ulitised more in everyday life, rather than making women into carbon copies of men.....where aggression and dominance seem overriding factors!
 
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Isn’t it interesting how many young and fit celebrity women are told by doctors they cannot carry a pregnancy themselves? Very interesting 🤨
Heard is currently in a relationship with cinematographer Bianca Butti, whom she has been dating since January 2020, but she made the decision to have a baby on her own some time ago and is “proud” to be Oonagh’s sole legal parent, we’re told.
(from page six, however reliable that is. Though even the IG post seems to imply this to me)

I wonder how people feel about celebrities choosing to go down that path seemingly more often these days. Personally, I can't help but see the process as being painted more as a 'luxury' to these people and no longer accessible to your average person with fertility issues.
 
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I'm a freelancer, so will never be asked. But if anyone did, I'd 100% put

Female first name surname
He/him

No explanation, no debate.
Love this, I work for a very non politically correct boss, in a small company, she doesn’t give a hoo har about this nonsense, but if I ever work for a big company where they ask people to do this, I’m doing that 🤣

I guess I am male 99% of the time, wow, does this mean I qualify for a promotion and pay increase to bring me in line with my male colleagues now?
I mean during the day I guess I definitely am female, but magically become male whilst I sleep 🤷🏼‍♀️ Who knew

They just don't understand. I have been talking about trans or TRA issues with a very close male friend of mine, someone who I trust implicitly, and it's so, so clear that even smart, worldy, liberal men just don't get it. I had to 'stoop' to asking if he'd ever felt physically threatened by a member of the opposite sex, if he'd ever given a fake number or pretended he'd had a girlfriend. No response.
I have a very liberal male friend too, such a kind hearted guy, but yeah when I speak to him about this stuff he just doesn’t get it.. and when I said about self ID being a problem, because men who aren’t trans can then just claim to be a woman and enter women’s spaces, he says he doesn’t believe anybody would do that 🤦🏼‍♀️ Like come on.. get in the real world.. and yet he’s the same person who says that SOME people join certain professions to get power, such as in the police, which is of course true, but how can you not see the hypocrisy in that..

He also thinks the bathroom topic is a joke because why does it matter.. and I’m like, yeah.. but have you ever been in a club and had to hide from a creepy guy who won’t stop following you, or other scenarios like that.. no, so you don’t understand it then

Oh duck this tit. Seriously, duck this. This "you're just afraid and therefore the problem" gaslighting is the language of abusers.
It’s like when that transgender woman in some debate said ‘you have the right to be safe, you don’t have the right to feel safe’ erm okay that.. that sounds predatory but whatever
 
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@Lonelylondon regarding the bathroom argument, an argument that was used on me once by a man was "by that logic I should feel threatened by gay men in bathrooms". They really just don't get it
 
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In answer to that man and his “naked dogs” comment:

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(I’m not using this to say that transwomen are predators at all. Just that men often think threats to women aren’t a problem because they (men) have not been affected.)
When I met my boyfriend 5 years ago, he was 27 and had only ever had 1 girlfriend and that was years before, so he had been single for a long time, until he met me, he had nooo idea how often men approach women in the street, and the kind of things that men say, because I’d text him frequently being like ‘some guy just came up to me and said this or that’ he was shocked. He has since witnessed it with his own eyes, when I was walking down the street with him, we passed a group of men and one of them as they passed me came right up to my face and shouted SEXY in my face. I am glad that he now gets it, but a lot of men just don’t and a lot don’t even try to 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
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It’s like when that transgender woman in some debate said ‘you have the right to be safe, you don’t have the right to feel safe’ erm okay that.. that sounds predatory but whatever
I remember that. What an outrageous thing to say. Also hasn’t figured out the link between women feeling safe and women being safe.
 
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The state of this answering that embarrassment Mhairi Black.
I caught up with her speech today. I know it's bordering on "whatabouttery" but she'd do well to address the various issues in her own backyard and her neighbouring constituency first and foremost.
 
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I caught up with her speech today. I know it's bordering on "whatabouttery" but she'd do well to address the various issues in her own backyard and her neighbouring constituency first and foremost.
Her record is appalling. I’m amazed she was re elected, compared to Douglas Alexander she’s a charlatan.
 
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The state of this answering that embarrassment Mhairi Black.
I'm puzzled by this logic. Do they really think women are going to attack them in women only spaces? Surely this is unlikely as Trans Women are presumably, on the whole, stronger than natural born women.
Disagreeing with self identity and being a 'TERF' doesn't mean that you have any intention of attacking anyone physically.
Why is this lie being perpetuated?
 
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The judgement on the judicial review about transwomen prisoners in HMP Downview was released today. Good Twitter thread here:



Short version: the current situation is legal, but it's the first time, I think, that a judge has stated there is a conflict between the rights of women and transwomen.
 
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