I don’t think I have ever seen a trans person (at least the ones that are on social media, ofcourse not ALL trans people are like this) that hasn’t said something incredibly misogynistic
The desperation of average white men to find literally any possible way to position themselves as the 'most oppressed' group absolutely stinks. I really cannot believe anyone falls for this."If you're just LGB you are able to almost straight-wash yourself, and 'butch-up' so to speak.”
What in the bleeping duck is this nonsense? You see all sorts of people at football games these days it’s not all just ‘straight middle aged men down the pub’ types. You even see women there, fancy that??
There are still places in the world where women aren’t even allowed to attend sports events. And then you’ve got this guy bleating on about being non binary at a football match. Just watch the game and shut up, no one cares.
This is true but I don't think it's a good thing for us. They've accepted there is a conflict of rights, but they've resolved it in a way that prioritises transwomen prisoners over female prisoners, even those who have been victims of sexual assault. I'm worried about the legal precedent this is going to set for any future cases that examine this clash. I'm also worried that recording transwomen's sexually violent crimes as 'female crimes' means in the future there will be less and less data showing it's overwhelmingly biological males who carry out sexually violent crime, and we need this to demonstrate why we need female prisons to be only biologically female. I think it's pretty bleak to be honest.Short version: the current situation is legal, but it's the first time, I think, that a judge has stated there is a conflict between the rights of women and transwomen.
Nothing against men wearing makeup, couldn’t care less (although I’d rather my boyfriend didn’t wear itI get the impression from this news story that the non-binary AMAB queer identifying person was almost disappointed that no one at the England match really gave a F
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The beautiful game 'has to be beautiful for everyone': Joe White's England makeup a victory for inclusion
Joe, who is non-binary, was overwhelmed by the positive response from other England fans to their expression of identity.news.sky.com
Joe came out as non-binary in January last year and since then has become increasingly comfortable expressing their identity.
But the decision to wear makeup to Tuesday's match (a first for them) was not a conscious one.
"I didn't really think about it until meeting my friend at mine so we could travel up to Wembley together and I was like 'ah, this could cause some issues'.
"If you're just LGB you are able to almost straight-wash yourself, and 'butch-up' so to speak. Whereas if you're in a face of makeup that gets a little bit harder to do if something happens."
So NB people in make up have it harder than people who are “just LGB”… right
Joe didn’t wear make up for the Sky News interview, but did wear pink glasses and a t shirt saying “sushi rolls not gender roles”. Because of course. Joe had also mastered that selfie face that all NBs seem to love.
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So non-binary = bit of foundation and lipstick. Riiiight...I get the impression from this news story that the non-binary AMAB queer identifying person was almost disappointed that no one at the England match really gave a F
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The beautiful game 'has to be beautiful for everyone': Joe White's England makeup a victory for inclusion
Joe, who is non-binary, was overwhelmed by the positive response from other England fans to their expression of identity.news.sky.com
Joe came out as non-binary in January last year and since then has become increasingly comfortable expressing their identity.
But the decision to wear makeup to Tuesday's match (a first for them) was not a conscious one.
"I didn't really think about it until meeting my friend at mine so we could travel up to Wembley together and I was like 'ah, this could cause some issues'.
"If you're just LGB you are able to almost straight-wash yourself, and 'butch-up' so to speak. Whereas if you're in a face of makeup that gets a little bit harder to do if something happens."
So NB people in make up have it harder than people who are “just LGB”… right
Joe didn’t wear make up for the Sky News interview, but did wear pink glasses and a t shirt saying “sushi rolls not gender roles”. Because of course. Joe had also mastered that selfie face that all NBs seem to love.
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No I fully agree, it is a fashion trend. But unlike goths or punks or whatever, it sometimes involves harmful practices like binding, hormones, etcI don't know if this is an unpopular opinion on here or not but I really think that this 'gender non binary' thing is basically a fashion trend.
My daughter had some friends over the other day and one was a girl who we've known for years who now identifies as 'they' and one of the others was a guy wearing a dress. Don't know him but he seemed pleasant enough.
I am of the opinion that this is a fad rather like everyone having a tattoo and piercings was some years back.
I'm getting really annoyed that everyone's happy to throw money at the trans causes - who is funding all this healthcare? PBs, HRT, any of it? - but conflicts of rights won't be resolved in a way that serves everyone because it will cost money. What is clearly needed is e.g. a transgender prison wing (admittedly I don't have the first clue precisely how many trans prisoners there are, but given how many prisons there are, they could surely set up one/two just for them) and similarly with the toilets I would be happy with facilities that are lockable self contained units with sinks and ceiling to floor walls. But this costs too much and only protects women here, so duck the lot of us and keep paying for hormones I guess.I also agree it's pretty bleak. Once the genie is out of the bottle it's hard to get it back in
It's just androgyny really, isn't it? Certainly nothing new in fashion at least, wasn't it The Big Thing in the 80s?I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion on here or not but I really think that this 'gender non binary' thing is basically a fashion trend.
My daughter had some friends over the other day and one was a girl who we've known for years who now identifies as 'they' and one of the others was a guy wearing a dress. Don't know him but he seemed pleasant enough.
I am of the opinion that this is a fad rather like everyone having a tattoo and piercings was some years back.
If makeup makes you non binary almost all of the emo guys I hung out with as a teenager covered in eyeliner must be I guess? Men across history have worn makeup, get over itSo non-binary = bit of foundation and lipstick. Riiiight...
I highly doubt anyone "complimented" them on their makeup. Doubt most people gave a shiny rit![]()
Nope definitely men - all those groupies would attestThey're now trying to claim that the new romantics in the 80s were actually trans
I think its going to cause and create more problems within prisons, not less.The desperation of average white men to find literally any possible way to position themselves as the 'most oppressed' group absolutely stinks. I really cannot believe anyone falls for this.
This is true but I don't think it's a good thing for us. They've accepted there is a conflict of rights, but they've resolved it in a way that prioritises transwomen prisoners over female prisoners, even those who have been victims of sexual assault. I'm worried about the legal precedent this is going to set for any future cases that examine this clash. I'm also worried that recording transwomen's sexually violent crimes as 'female crimes' means in the future there will be less and less data showing it's overwhelmingly biological males who carry out sexually violent crime, and we need this to demonstrate why we need female prisons to be only biologically female. I think it's pretty bleak to be honest.
Yes I think you're right, I expect there will come a point when there's a kind of inmate vigilante justice going on. Thing is that will make it even worse for women yet again because it will be painted as 'horrible transphobic female prisoner attacking a transwoman' or something. I really do despair at it all.I think its going to cause and create more problems within prisons, not less.
I'm not an expert on prisons at all, but if the authorities aren't able to control the situation appropriately, which they can't be if at least 7 trans women have sexually assaulted other prisoners, then prisoner will be forced to take matters into their own hands and its likely there will be a violent and unpleasant reaction.