Every country has laws that must be obeyed!
Every country has laws that must be obeyed!Why are people pretending not to know the difference between being a tourist and being a citizen of a country????
I did think it was awfully close to smelling of the replacement theory - I think Italian far right has outright used it before tooI don't think it's 'nice'. The only 'niceness' from Sunak here is to Meloni who seems to be offering him a way to cosy up to far-right rhetoric without the risks of using Braverman as his proxy. Sunak's talk about how a few tens of thousands of asylum seekers will 'overwhelm' the UK is classic 'blood and soil' ideology. Sunak is now only half a step away from Trump's overt fascism but he still has time ...
Guess we're sending Afghan citizens (including women) back to Afghanistan then. Who cares what the law actually is eh? If you're breaking it by existing then that's your problemEvery country has laws that must be obeyed!
What does that have to do with what I said?Every country has laws that must be obeyed!
That's astonishingYes of course, we keep to our own lanes here!
This is still very much a terrorist state, masked men sit in a courtroom to intimidate witnesses, surrounded by police, unhindered!
'Disbelief' at masked men inside Belfast courtroom - BBC News
Chris Heaton-Harris made his remarks as a senior judge ordered a review of the incident.www.bbc.co.uk
Regardless of what or who these people are there’s a limit to how many people can be helped!I did think it was awfully close to smelling of the replacement theory - I think Italian far right has outright used it before too
Imo what he said still sounds nicer than outright calling asylum seekers criminals and wanting to refuse all asylum claims
Guess we're sending Afghan citizens (including women) back to Afghanistan then. Who cares what the law actually is eh? If you're breaking it by existing then that's your problem
That’s why we’re all on tenterhooks including gov, we’ve never had a situation where these groups have merged on any level before.only over the odd shooting of a policeman in front of groups of kids that he was coaching ( football) because he happened to be investigating paramilitary drugs gangs.That's astonishing
Like fighting fire with fire now as well with the migrants situation
Maybe because they had to fight hard to get where they are and don’t want to give it away too easilyI will say it's interesting that the very people who are all "the government has it out for you" and the future is horrible also don't care at all about the masses of people living under very similar rules in other countriesA part of me thought that line of beliefs was connected to protesting the move towards that type of society
It might be your point. It wasn't mine. I was commenting on what constitutes 'breaking the law' in Rwanda and why The Supreme Court found it to be unsafe for asylum seekers.The point is more people with those views are arriving illegally into this country we have a duty of care to our own citizens and their hard fought battle to be recognised for who they are.
Damn, so all those asylum seekers aren't patriotic??it makes people more patriotic when they have to fight for something that’s rightfully theirs ,imo.
I’m talking about the citizens of oppression that took control to then be expected to lose it again.We’ve always lived under a very right -wing gov ,in the DUP , opposed to gay marriage, abortion, sectarian, racist etc, etc …They won’t sit in gov under a first minister that they class as second class…It happens!…This is the UK today!Damn, so all those asylum seekers aren't patriotic??
I thought we'd have a more nuanced view of how control over technology (i.e being able to shut down or censor the internet, track your location and the like) would influence the ability of a society to fight against controlling governments... suppose you just have to be more patriotic
And that's ignoring messes caused by the interference of other governments in the recent past
Is that yourself you’re talking about?I get the very strong feeling that people who believe that the UK government has victimised and abused groups with which they identify or sympathise are only too eager for the UK government to treat other groups in the same way.
How do you change other countries laws?I did think it was awfully close to smelling of the replacement theory - I think Italian far right has outright used it before too
Imo what he said still sounds nicer than outright calling asylum seekers criminals and wanting to refuse all asylum claims
Guess we're sending Afghan citizens (including women) back to Afghanistan then. Who cares what the law actually is eh? If you're breaking it by existing then that's your problem
It's because they have an individualistic scarcity mindset and aren't necessarily opposed to the government, just opposed to anything that disadvantages them personally.I will say it's interesting that the very people who are all "the government has it out for you" and the future is horrible also don't care at all about the masses of people living under very similar rules in other countriesA part of me thought that line of beliefs was connected to protesting the move towards that type of society
It’s not lack of patriotism, it’s too much patriotismIt's because they have an individualistic scarcity mindset and aren't necessarily opposed to the government, just opposed to anything that disadvantages them personally.
Interestingly, the ones who are sympathetic to Palestinians and understand how they might unwillingly become refugees in that thread, are in this thread putting it down to a lack of patriotism.
Also being patriotic... some of us would argue that getting rid of the current government would be the best thing for this country but I doubt any of us would fight that cause to the point of our potential death. Self preservation is a very normal human trait.
How is that related to the point I was making?It’s not lack of patriotism, it’s too much patriotismlike we’re without vital services because our right wing gov use an invisible sea border as an excuse for undermining their patriotism to UK …I rest my case!
These are the patriots I’m talking about, don’t want any race only white British.How is that related to the point I was making?
Acts of violence against those who have less power than you while supporting a government that has made standards of living worse and worse is a weird way to be patriotic.These are the patriots I’m talking about, don’t want any race only white British.
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Seems they’re all calling for gov dialogue after the fire.
Try telling them that ! most of them have never set foot in England yet are more British than the monarchActs of violence against those who have less power than you while supporting a government that has made standards of living worse and worse is a weird way to be patriotic.
Hmmm it's almost as if this isn't about being "patriotic"Try telling them that ! most of them have never set foot in England yet are more British than the monarchthat’s why people are surprised that those who despise ( born on the island) Ireland and all it stands for are teaming up with Irish patriots that despise England and all it stands for …To drive out foreigners.
It’s a hard call to what it is ?? people say whites don’t experience racism and non whites have joined their call to stop migrants.Hmmm it's almost as if this isn't about being "patriotic"
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