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I’ve just seen her grid post…what the f is up with her face? Has she had something done? She looks really strange, unless it’s a filter? Her skin looks like plastic.
 
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Ngl the attitude here really confuses me. I'm presuming we're all women here, and denying another woman a choice over her name / her images / the way people talk about her damages us all. I'm not saying I expect everyone to love her as a person or even like her, but the simple fact her name and selfhood is even up for discussion is something men just don't have to deal with. Perpetuating this narrative that she deserves to be spoken about in the media in this way because of her father and her choice to keep her maiden name online is bizarre.
take off your diving suit, it’s not that deep.

no one is perpetuating any narrative. There isn’t a narrative about her name going, other than the one she’s trying to conjure up herself.

the mail refers to her as Emily Clarkson, and reference her father. Why? Because Jeremy Clarkson naturally draws a fan base from Mail readers and they want to make that link for them. Mail readers are literally his core fan base. And why wouldn’t they reference her relationship to her father on 1. That basis and 2. The basis that she has used her connection to him, repeatedly, to self-promote. The daily Mail hasn’t spoken about any name changes or speculated on whether she should have changed it. Emily has.

And why shouldn’t she be criticised for kicking up a fuss at the daily Mail referencing her dad?
She’s kicking up a fuss to divert attention from the nepotism she’s enjoyed.
And she is apoplectic at being referenced as jeremy clarkson’s daughter, yet is more than happy to cash in on the name when it suits.

this isnt about feminism, that’s a straw man argument Em has put out there. It boils down to her nepotism and hypocrisy.
 
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Ngl the attitude here really confuses me. I'm presuming we're all women here, and denying another woman a choice over her name / her images / the way people talk about her damages us all. I'm not saying I expect everyone to love her as a person or even like her, but the simple fact her name and selfhood is even up for discussion is something men just don't have to deal with. Perpetuating this narrative that she deserves to be spoken about in the media in this way because of her father and her choice to keep her maiden name online is bizarre.
i have absolutely no issue with whether a woman chooses or change her surname or not - it's a personal choice and not the issue her. Em. has already said that she has changed her surname for person use, because she wanys the same name as her husband and daughter, so her decision to remain a Clarkson in her professional life is simply - as she explained - because chasing her surname would affect the career she has built using the Clarkson name: a career she has repeatedly revealed that she used the family name and all her famous parents' connections to boost!

kinda weird to assume that everyone commenting here is a woman, but overlooking that, you seem to be missing the point. if Em hates the association with her father as much as she claims, she has every ability to change her surname - to literally anything, not just the name of her husband, which isn't the issue - yet she clings onto it because it benefits her! that tiny article in the daily mail wouldn't have even been noticed if she hadn't reshared it and made it into a huge deal - and the sole reason she did that is because it benefits her! same with the photo she then shared with a caption taken directly from the headline of the article, which specifically references Top Gear! she is purposefully fuelling the connection people automatically make between her and her father, because it boosts her name and means more people will be made aware of her SM platform and widen her audience - yet simultaneously is whinging about how awful it is, knowing that doing so will hugely increase engagement with her content as her followers all leap to leave comments of support. it's all incredibly deceitful.

as for the images themselves, it's not the images being shared that she has an issue with - she posts them on SM is eorfevtly happy for her followers to reshare them - it's about money, and wanting to be paid when the media uses a photograph of her. which is fine, in itself - it's the lack of honesty and the manipulation when she writes posts. if she wants to be paid for her image being used, that's totally understandable - but just be honest about it, instead of purposefully twisting every situation into an unnecessary rant about feminism.🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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So Em is picking the low hanging fruit and going on about the Daily Mail again. I don’t disagree with her on a lot of her points about the DM, but Im not sure I agree with her motives for doing it, or her rationale. She’s parroting things people cleverer and more articulate than her, have been saying for ages. She throws a few buzzwords “misogny” “micro aggression” to make herself seem more intelligent and to appeal to a specific type of person.

Her recent take on a daily Mail story was a story they wrote on Poppy O’Toole’s recipe for roast potatoes.

FIRST OFF, it should be noted that Poppy “teamed up” with the DM to run this story, for the exposure. Exposure that so many influencers rely upon. Exposure to boost a book she’s selling in an already saturated market.

Secondly - I am a feminist, I’m well read in feminist literature. I will usually cast a cynical eye over tabloid stories when I read them. I am well attuned to these “micro aggressions” em refers to. This story, doesn’t contain anything that is remotely disparaging towards Poppy. The headline is a little confrontational “you’ve been doing it wrong”. But the point of this story is to promote Poppy and her book; as part of that sales pitch they are creating a demand where there is none, tell readers their method is wrong so they buy into Poppy’s method.

So we’ll address the comments then. None of the top comments, personally attack Poppy. They are dismissive of her method, they criticise the headline. But they don’t attack Poppy. I couldn’t find a single comment. I looked though the worst rated, best rated etc. But struggled to find one personally attacking Poppy other than to say she was being a bit pretentious and stating the obvious - not exactly nice but not totally unfair or misogynist either.

So what about the comments Em herself has displayed? First off, she must’ve trawled for them for ages but worst of all - they are actively downvoted.

She is calling all readers misogynists (and there is an abundance of subtle and not-so-subtle misogny on the daily Mail and within comments) and then showing a few dodgy comments that the readers themselves have downvoted, as proof of this. It’s total nonsense. Is she incapable of rational or logical though processes? Can’t she see how bleeping stupid she looks making this point? “Look how misogynist these lot are, here’s a crappy comment that has more downvotes than likes as proof”

It’s just another superficial feminist crusade from the empty vessel that is Em Clarkson, designed to fool her followers into thinking she’s progressive and socialist. If im being kind, I’d say she’s fooling herself of the same but let’s face it - this is probably calculated bullshit to get her the brand image she wants.

Poppy isn’t much better. “I just wanted to share my recipe, why has it incited so much hatred?”

Stop playing dumb Poppy (and by extension, Em). It was a sales pitch. You are trying to sell a recipe and a recipe book, you are trying to sell yourself as a brand, and shock: people don’t like being treated as gullible, or being sold recipes/advice that have been knocking about for years and could be easily googled. They didn’t like your sales pitch, stop pretending it’s about an attack on you.
 
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So Em is picking the low hanging fruit and going on about the Daily Mail again. I don’t disagree with her on a lot of her points about the DM, but Im not sure I agree with her motives for doing it, or her rationale. She’s parroting things people cleverer and more articulate than her, have been saying for ages. She throws a few buzzwords “misogny” “micro aggression” to make herself seem more intelligent and to appeal to a specific type of person.

Her recent take on a daily Mail story was a story they wrote on Poppy O’Toole’s recipe for roast potatoes.

FIRST OFF, it should be noted that Poppy “teamed up” with the DM to run this story, for the exposure. Exposure that so many influencers rely upon. Exposure to boost a book she’s selling in an already saturated market.

Secondly - I am a feminist, I’m well read in feminist literature. I will usually cast a cynical eye over tabloid stories when I read them. I am well attuned to these “micro aggressions” em refers to. This story, doesn’t contain anything that is remotely disparaging towards Poppy. The headline is a little confrontational “you’ve been doing it wrong”. But the point of this story is to promote Poppy and her book; as part of that sales pitch they are creating a demand where there is none, tell readers their method is wrong so they buy into Poppy’s method.

So we’ll address the comments then. None of the top comments, personally attack Poppy. They are dismissive of her method, they criticise the headline. But they don’t attack Poppy. I couldn’t find a single comment. I looked though the worst rated, best rated etc. But struggled to find one personally attacking Poppy other than to say she was being a bit pretentious and stating the obvious - not exactly nice but not totally unfair or misogynist either.

So what about the comments Em herself has displayed? First off, she must’ve trawled for them for ages but worst of all - they are actively downvoted.

She is calling all readers misogynists (and there is an abundance of subtle and not-so-subtle misogny on the daily Mail and within comments) and then showing a few dodgy comments that the readers themselves have downvoted, as proof of this. It’s total nonsense. Is she incapable of rational or logical though processes? Can’t she see how bleeping stupid she looks making this point? “Look how misogynist these lot are, here’s a crappy comment that has more downvotes than likes as proof”

It’s just another superficial feminist crusade from the empty vessel that is Em Clarkson, designed to fool her followers into thinking she’s progressive and socialist. If im being kind, I’d say she’s fooling herself of the same but let’s face it - this is probably calculated bullshit to get her the brand image she wants.

Poppy isn’t much better. “I just wanted to share my recipe, why has it incited so much hatred?”

Stop playing dumb Poppy (and by extension, Em). It was a sales pitch. You are trying to sell a recipe and a recipe book, you are trying to sell yourself as a brand, and shock: people don’t like being treated as gullible, or being sold recipes/advice that have been knocking about for years and could be easily googled. They didn’t like your sales pitch, stop pretending it’s about an attack on you.
Totally agree with you and as for poppy she’s trying to sell something that has been around for years like you said. I look at her methods and all I see is greasy potatoes! I’m not sure how revolutionary that is it just makes me feel sick
 
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Let's hope Emily is a bit smarter than her mate Danae Mercer.
Are people really this clueless about newborn babies?
It’s so basic. I genuinely despair at the thought of some parents because they have no idea.
 
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She's another one that seems to have made it her life's mission to contort her tiny body into every unattractive angle she can muster in order to be somehow relevant. Good to see people are calling her out on her scare mongering but she's not going to stop because it her journey and duck all you scared pregnant mums to be ! Another awful toxic creature who needs removing from SM!

I've no doubt this is exactly how Ms Clarkson is going to be, showing off every private gory detail...
 
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I mean, what a hideously egotistical take on it.

don’t take criticism from someone you wouldn’t go to for advice?! What?! Taking criticism is part of humility and being humble. I wouldn’t necessarily take life advice from my boss at work, but if he offered criticism on an area he’s an expert in - of course I would accept it (if it was constructive).

“just because someone has a problem with you, doesn’t mean there is a problem with you”

except… maybe sometimes it’s fair to recognise that we aren’t perfect and sometimes we are the problem?

and why on Earth has she brought a feminist spiel into it. What has work criticism got to do with likeability? That isn’t what she was asked but of course she has to take this chance to remind us what an intellect and feminist she is.

as per, she ignored the question and makes it all about herself and her own experiences. She is so self involved it’s insane. She is one of the last people who should be giving out advice.

the stuff she has said is just… harmful.

learning to tolerate criticism and not have it effect your self worth and self esteem is an important life skill. Not being able to take criticism at work will stunt your ability to grow, will likely damage relationships with coworkers and ultimately hold you back. The advice Em gives is pretty defensive and therefore, not especially healthy.

better advice would be to suggest that the questioner tries to separate their identity and self esteem form their work. That they try and be less reactive, listen to the criticism and then decide if it’s something they will take on board when their emotions have died down. That they take time before responding. Em has basically just said, be defensive and remind yourself it isn’t about you. The latter isn’t bad, but the first bit is awful.

but then write into a sheltered, self involved woman who thinks she knows everything for advice and this is what you get.
 
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Plus asking the advice from someone that doesn't actually work, has never worked, has no intention of working for the foreseeable was probably not that posters smartest move!
 
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This woman has NEVER had a job. NEVER been dated. NEVER known what it's like to be penniless.
Why on earth do her "fans" follow her? I don't get it

It’s so basic. I genuinely despair at the thought of some parents because they have no idea.
Right? Literally just come jnto the world and is expected to sleep 8 hours solid. Ffs

She's another one that seems to have made it her life's mission to contort her tiny body into every unattractive angle she can muster in order to be somehow relevant. Good to see people are calling her out on her scare mongering but she's not going to stop because it her journey and duck all you scared pregnant mums to be ! Another awful toxic creature who needs removing from SM!

I've no doubt this is exactly how Ms Clarkson is going to be, showing off every private gory detail...
Yep.

Oh lord - we are going to be subjected to her leaky boobs and fanny looking like a punched lasagne aren't we?
 
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Plus asking the advice from someone that doesn't actually work, has never worked, has no intention of working for the foreseeable was probably not that posters smartest move!
Tbh it wouldn’t surprise me if Em wrote this question in herself or it’s someone trolling.

her whole take just shows how horribly out of touch she is, how ignorant and lacking in any real world experience she is. Its tragic viewing. She knows she doesn’t have the relevant experience to respond to this question but she can’t bring herself to admit that. She can’t put aside her defensiveness.

she knows full well she has no experience pertaining to this question, and instead of recognising that and signposting, she manipulates the Q to make it about her experiences. How refreshing would it be if she responded with “I don’t actually have a lot of experience in this area, I don’t have a boss. But here are some great articles on how to deal with criticism”

Em is a highly defensive and reactive person. She can’t admit to being wrong or accept the more unlikeable aspects of herself, she is not at peace with herself at all. So instead of working on her defensiveness and poor self esteem, she twists it and projects it into others. It’s not that she’s a little too opinionated and should consider being more open minded. Oh no, it’s all the other persons’ fault. She’s just too opinionated for them. She wouldn’t take advice from them anyway so best to ignore them. It’s probably all down to misogyny anyway.

I grew up in a pretty awful home environment, and it led to me finding it difficult to admit to “weaknesses”. My parents never apologised for anything, ever. It was never safe to be wrong. There was never any space made for errors. Mistakes meant you were a bad person.

growing up and maturing, I’ve learned the importance of apologies. The importance of being able to admit to being wrong and showing myself compassion and giving myself room for error, because that extends into being more compassionate to others. The importance of being vulnerable and not being defensive, being open. It makes for better relationships with myself and other people. But then I aquired a little more self awareness and maturity from life experience: being around other people who had vastly different backgrounds to me, gaining perspective, working in different environments etc. having to go through big challenges in my career and dating/personal life. I removed myself from my parents influence which allowed me to grow. Em has done none of this.

Em has grown up with crappy people as parents and she clings to them. Her dad sets a bad example in his crappy attitudes and behaviours and her mother enables her to behave like a child by being overprotective. She has latched on to a guy who let’s face it, is probably a bit morally questionable and who enables her behaviour because it benefits him to do so.

she is physically always around her parents, financially she is close to them, her career is down to her parents. And now she has a husband who she clings to instead. It’s toxic.

I really, really hope she accesses therapy in some form to address it while her kid is her formative years. Most people would benefit from it anyway but not all of us have the cash or time. God knows she has the money and time to.

But accessing therapy is brave and requires a lot of difficult mental work, and I think Em is too comfortable in her toxic little mindset to challenge it. Easier to pretend everyone else is the problem and pretend she knows it all.
 
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Welcome to the world of being a working adult/ adult in general! Doing what millions of pregnant women do day in day out because they don't have the luxury of lying on the sofa like she does everyday !

I'm assuming her doing a train journey at 8 months pregnant is being done for dramatic affect and for engagement 🥱

And it's looking like JC is being cancelled...wonder how long it will take for Ms Clarkson to start using the wet lettuce husbands surname 🤔
 
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Welcome to the world of being a working adult/ adult in general! Doing what millions of pregnant women do day in day out because they don't have the luxury of lying on the sofa like she does everyday !

I'm assuming her doing a train journey at 8 months pregnant is being done for dramatic affect and for engagement 🥱

And it's looking like JC is being cancelled...wonder how long it will take for Ms Clarkson to start using the wet lettuce husbands surname 🤔
imminently I reckon. And she’ll say it’s because she wants the same surname as her daughter or some such bollocks.

though jeremy Clarkson is like Teflon. The more he gets called out for his crappy behaviour, the more a very specific section of society gets behind him. That section is usually very upper middle class, male, sexist, racist etc. And they get behind him because he engages in crappy behaviour they wish they could engage in more openly.

he should’ve been “cancelled” the moment he assaulted and racially abused someone at work but now all people can do is mention HoW mUcH hEs dOnE fOr BriTiSh FaRmiNg. Er, no. He was never out to save British farming, and he doesn’t “do” anything for it since the rich idyllic Cotswolds it’s not indicative of the U.K. farming industry. He set out to make money for himself. End of.
 
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imminently I reckon. And she’ll say it’s because she wants the same surname as her daughter or some such bollocks.

though jeremy Clarkson is like Teflon. The more he gets called out for his crappy behaviour, the more a very specific section of society gets behind him. That section is usually very upper middle class, male, sexist, racist etc. And they get behind him because he engages in crappy behaviour they wish they could engage in more openly.

he should’ve been “cancelled” the moment he assaulted and racially abused someone at work but now all people can do is mention HoW mUcH hEs dOnE fOr BriTiSh FaRmiNg. Er, no. He was never out to save British farming, and he doesn’t “do” anything for it since the rich idyllic Cotswolds it’s not indicative of the U.K. farming industry. He set out to make money for himself. End of.
she already said that she uses her husband's surname in her private life, specifically because she wants the same surname as her daughter - yet refuses to change her professional name, as she claims she has built a platform as Em Clarkson and doesn't want to lose that simply because she got married, although obvs failed to mention the fact that her decision to remain known as Emily Clarkson in the public eye means she continues to benefit from the associations with her famous father, whether positive or negative, the latter of which she very adeptly twists to her own advantage!

legally, i don't know whether she is Emily Clarkson or Emily Andrew, but once her daughter is actually born, she may attempt to suddenly justify a random decision to change her surname in relation to her career - which will ✨coincidentally✨ fit perfectly with her father being "cancelled" due to his awful comments about Meghan, and consequently being ditched by amazon prime etc. equally, she may continue to use the negative publicity surrounding her father as a way to boost her own career and SM presence, using it as an opportunity to speak out against sexism/misogyny/racism etc, because it ensures that she is mentioned by the media in the many articles relating to him - whether by name, or as "Jeremy Clarkson's daughter" 🙄 - which then increases engagement with her IG account, which means brands are more likely to approach her and work with her, perceiving her as an influencer with lucrative potential.

in terms of any future decisions related to changing or not changing her surname, it could go either way - but whatever she decides, it will inevitably benefit her - whether she plays it as keeping the Clarkson name to show support for her father who has been unfairly cancelled despite such a genuine and sincere apology, or that she adopts her husband's name as a way to cut ties with Jeremy because she doesn't agree with his views. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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I suspect most brands especially the family orientated ones will give her a wide berth. Guilt by association and all that.

She's cashed in on the fact she's his daughter so won't come as a surprise to her surely that she will also become persona non grata now he's to all intents and purposes has been cancelled ...
 
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she already said that she uses her husband's surname in her private life, specifically because she wants the same surname as her daughter - yet refuses to change her professional name, as she claims she has built a platform as Em Clarkson and doesn't want to lose that simply because she got married, although obvs failed to mention the fact that her decision to remain known as Emily Clarkson in the public eye means she continues to benefit from the associations with her famous father, whether positive or negative, the latter of which she very adeptly twists to her own advantage!

legally, i don't know whether she is Emily Clarkson or Emily Andrew, but once her daughter is actually born, she may attempt to suddenly justify a random decision to change her surname in relation to her career - which will ✨coincidentally✨ fit perfectly with her father being "cancelled" due to his awful comments about Meghan, and consequently being ditched by amazon prime etc. equally, she may continue to use the negative publicity surrounding her father as a way to boost her own career and SM presence, using it as an opportunity to speak out against sexism/misogyny/racism etc, because it ensures that she is mentioned by the media in the many articles relating to him - whether by name, or as "Jeremy Clarkson's daughter" 🙄 - which then increases engagement with her IG account, which means brands are more likely to approach her and work with her, perceiving her as an influencer with lucrative potential.

in terms of any future decisions related to changing or not changing her surname, it could go either way - but whatever she decides, it will inevitably benefit her - whether she plays it as keeping the Clarkson name to show support for her father who has been unfairly cancelled despite such a genuine and sincere apology, or that she adopts her husband's name as a way to cut ties with Jeremy because she doesn't agree with his views. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Clarkson isn’t “cancelled” he will find work elsewhere. He did when the BBC dropped him and he will now amazon have dropped him. Which will in turn benefit Emily. The saying any publicity is good publicity is very appt for the Clarksons
 
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Let's hope Emily is a bit smarter than her mate Danae Mercer.
Are people really this clueless about newborn babies?
Is there a Danae Mercer thread (sorry, off topic !)? All I can find is positive stuff about how she shows that influencers edit their photos :rolleyes: She’s become unbearable since she got pregnant in my opinion!!
 
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Clarkson isn’t “cancelled” he will find work elsewhere. He did when the BBC dropped him and he will now amazon have dropped him. Which will in turn benefit Emily. The saying any publicity is good publicity is very appt for the Clarksons
his luck will run out eventually but as I said before, he’s like Teflon. He appeals to some of the worst in society and they’ll always be there ready to back him, no matter what.

irnonically, if you look at the daily Mail comments, they are overwhelmingly in support of him. Em is pretty lacking in awareness it seems - she was calling this readership misogynistic (which to a large extent, is true) without any awareness that this is her dad’s core fan base, the source of his wealth and influence and by extension, her wealth and influence. Zero self awareness.
 
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