Ellie Grey #12 Ellie Grey has gone to ground, what’s she up to she can’t be found?

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A screenshot of a comment from the NHSmillion’s IG post about yesterday’s nonsense (that got LOADS of support, btw. 99% my arse).

Looks like it was copied from the transcript of Kate Sherimani’s NMC hearing. Hopefully That_Nurse_Who_Doesnt_Like_People_Asking_Questions’s hearing will look similar 🤞🏻
 

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This isn't our infamous group of tinfoilhatters but no doubt are getting info from similar sources, US based, but shows how stupid some of this lot really are! If there was one group of people that should be masked, it is those going through and/or coming into contact with others going through chemo and immunosuppression, so to protest a mask requirement in a cancer centre... they are honestly some of the most stupid people!
 

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Ugh 2 seconds into Hamptons drivel and she's boiling my piss ALREADY. .....bloody year of the activist. Why do these bloody morons act as if they are the first people ever to object to anything? I just love the lectures they dish out on everything they have just discovered and you're sitting there thinking you're a bit late mate, everyone else apart from you who appears to have been living under a rock has known that for years. And ooh the msm has been reporting on that for years. But oh you wouldn't know that would you because you don't look
at msm.
 
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Not seen her FB but this is just a load of tit...


I apologise in advance if anyone thinks I am too blunt or is upset!

Ventilators weren't killing patients, by that point it was one of the only options to save these people. Not using them would have certainly led to death and for some quite a distressing death as they felt like they were drowning! Ventilators can sometimes cause a bit of damage in the lungs because of the pressures involved, but everything is done to minimise that whilst making sure enough oxygen is reaching important organs, but without the ventilator, most of those patients would have died much earlier if they sadly didn't survive to come off the ventilator.

As for the DNAR...I've spoken here about their use in elderly and the fact that it is an advance decision for patients to make their wishes clear, whether or not they want CPR, buy ultimately it is a medical decision. Doing CPR on extremely elderly and/or frail patients is actually very traumatic, and for many IF they are brought back, they generally live for quite a short period afterwards and often in a lot of pain due to physical injury from CPR (and potentially with hypoxic brain damage). If an elderly or quite sick patient has a lot of physical reserve and is likely to survive CPR and has a good prognosis, medics would perform CPR unless it was expressed not to previously. A patient at the end of their life is also unlikely to be for ICU organ support as evidence shows a lot of them don't survive ICU and you can create a lot of trauma and delirium, again creating a very distressing period at the end of their life. If a patient is unlikely to survive an ICU stay (with organ support and not just a little extra monitoring post surgery or accident), they probably are not going to survive CPR attempts. CPR is nothing like Holby City and Greys' Anatomy pretends it is!

Older, frail or extremely sick patients also aren't just marked as nil by mouth the minute they come through the door, even if a DNR is in place. If a patient comes in eating and drinking themselves, they will continue to be offered food and drinks. They are not nil by mouth (other than for procedures clearly or intestinal blockages, etc. where it is for good reason) at all. If a patient turns up sick and struggling but some IV fluids and potentially some feeding by drip or tube into their stomach is going to help, then it is done, and they will be fed and hydrated that way until they are eating and drinking again themselves (or for some obviously that feeding method may become longer term). If an elderly or extremely sick patient turns up, clearly at the end of their life, their bodies are beginning to fail and there are tests, etc. to indicate that and they themselves are not eating and drinking, not looking for food or drink, are not distressed by not having food or water, and the aging or disease process means that there isn’t going to a reversal of the organ failure, etc. then their notes may be marked nil by mouth for their own safety. They are withheld because usually by that point there are also issues around swallowing, bowels slowing/stopping, etc. If a patient is lucid and engaging, etc. of course fluids, etc. will be provided as needed, but by the time feeding and fluids are stopped patients are struggling with consciousness, they are not alert, their bodies are failing and they no longer have hunger or thirst. They are not distressed by hunger or thirst. This isn't about withholding them and making someone suffer. This is end stage when the body stops needing and sending signals that it needs food and water, and with evidence that the aging or disease process has done irreversible, end stage damage.

Midazolam wasn't being used to 'kill' either. Most of us at some point will have midazolam given to us. It makes up 'twilight sedation' used for medical and dental procedures that don't require full general anaesthetic. Midazolam is same class of drug as diazepam which most people will have heard of. Midazolam is used in end of life care as it helps make a patient be less anxious and less 'aware' of the reality. End of life care (especially in Covid) can often involve a lot of horrible issues with breathing, pain, etc. This drug was used to try and help relieve some of these symptoms and/or awareness of the symptoms (typically used in combination with other meds). It isn't used to 'kill' but is a standard medication used in palliative care for good reason. I wonder if her and those who listen to her would be happy to sit with a relative at the end of their life, be it cancer, dementia, etc. (not necessarily anything to do with COVID) and for them to have no access to any of those medications and see the fear and distress caused to the patient and/or those around them. I apologise to anyone who has witnessed it, but again, rarely like the movies paint it and those medications allow a more peaceful and dignified passing than without. Yes the government may have stockpiled it early on in the pandemic, but it is because it is known to be used in end of life care, but it is also used in ICU as a drug that can keep people sedated for being on ventilators, etc. Again ventilator & midazolam not causing death, normal practices for extremely ill patients, hoping that supporting them through the worst of a virus will be enough to have them recover!

And she's using authority bias to try and push these lies which is disgusting! "NHS Worker who speaks out" but they are good at leaving out the part about her having no clinical background at all to understand any of what she is saying. No science background, no drug knowledge of a pharmacy assistant, etc. She was a call handler for CareUK that had a contract to provide NHS 111 services...so 'NHS worker' is probably loosely applied. I don't want to offend as obviously 111 provide a necessary service to help manage urgent care in the UK, but the training seems to be anywhere from 2-12 weeks depending on the company providing the services from a quick Google and is all based on computer algorithms prompting what to ask, when to ask for clinical input and then computer/clinician deciding on outcome. Again, no disrespect as important at helping manage urgent care, and some people are no doubt brilliant at their job and care about what they do, etc. but it is a job that still does not give her any understanding of health or NHS processes beyond what 111 can offer from their call centre.
 
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Not seen her FB but this is just a load of tit...


I apologise in advance if anyone thinks I am too blunt or is upset!

Ventilators weren't killing patients, by that point it was one of the only options to save these people. Not using them would have certainly led to death and for some quite a distressing death as they felt like they were drowning! Ventilators can sometimes cause a bit of damage in the lungs because of the pressures involved, but everything is done to minimise that whilst making sure enough oxygen is reaching important organs, but without the ventilator, most of those patients would have died much earlier if they sadly didn't survive to come off the ventilator.

As for the DNAR...I've spoken here about their use in elderly and the fact that it is an advance decision for patients to make their wishes clear, whether or not they want CPR, buy ultimately it is a medical decision. Doing CPR on extremely elderly and/or frail patients is actually very traumatic, and for many IF they are brought back, they generally live for quite a short period afterwards and often in a lot of pain due to physical injury from CPR (and potentially with hypoxic brain damage). If an elderly or quite sick patient has a lot of physical reserve and is likely to survive CPR and has a good prognosis, medics would perform CPR unless it was expressed not to previously. A patient at the end of their life is also unlikely to be for ICU organ support as evidence shows a lot of them don't survive ICU and you can create a lot of trauma and delirium, again creating a very distressing period at the end of their life. If a patient is unlikely to survive an ICU stay (with organ support and not just a little extra monitoring post surgery or accident), they probably are not going to survive CPR attempts. CPR is nothing like Holby City and Greys' Anatomy pretends it is!

Older, frail or extremely sick patients also aren't just marked as nil by mouth the minute they come through the door, even if a DNR is in place. If a patient comes in eating and drinking themselves, they will continue to be offered food and drinks. They are not nil by mouth (other than for procedures clearly or intestinal blockages, etc. where it is for good reason) at all. If a patient turns up sick and struggling but some IV fluids and potentially some feeding by drip or tube into their stomach is going to help, then it is done, and they will be fed and hydrated that way until they are eating and drinking again themselves (or for some obviously that feeding method may become longer term). If an elderly or extremely sick patient turns up, clearly at the end of their life, their bodies are beginning to fail and there are tests, etc. to indicate that and they themselves are not eating and drinking, not looking for food or drink, are not distressed by not having food or water, and the aging or disease process means that there isn’t going to a reversal of the organ failure, etc. then their notes may be marked nil by mouth for their own safety. They are withheld because usually by that point there are also issues around swallowing, bowels slowing/stopping, etc. If a patient is lucid and engaging, etc. of course fluids, etc. will be provided as needed, but by the time feeding and fluids are stopped patients are struggling with consciousness, they are not alert, their bodies are failing and they no longer have hunger or thirst. They are not distressed by hunger or thirst. This isn't about withholding them and making someone suffer. This is end stage when the body stops needing and sending signals that it needs food and water, and with evidence that the aging or disease process has done irreversible, end stage damage.

Midazolam wasn't being used to 'kill' either. Most of us at some point will have midazolam given to us. It makes up 'twilight sedation' used for medical and dental procedures that don't require full general anaesthetic. Midazolam is same class of drug as diazepam which most people will have heard of. Midazolam is used in end of life care as it helps make a patient be less anxious and less 'aware' of the reality. End of life care (especially in Covid) can often involve a lot of horrible issues with breathing, pain, etc. This drug was used to try and help relieve some of these symptoms and/or awareness of the symptoms (typically used in combination with other meds). It isn't used to 'kill' but is a standard medication used in palliative care for good reason. I wonder if her and those who listen to her would be happy to sit with a relative at the end of their life, be it cancer, dementia, etc. (not necessarily anything to do with COVID) and for them to have no access to any of those medications and see the fear and distress caused to the patient and/or those around them. I apologise to anyone who has witnessed it, but again, rarely like the movies paint it and those medications allow a more peaceful and dignified passing than without. Yes the government may have stockpiled it early on in the pandemic, but it is because it is known to be used in end of life care, but it is also used in ICU as a drug that can keep people sedated for being on ventilators, etc. Again ventilator & midazolam not causing death, normal practices for extremely ill patients, hoping that supporting them through the worst of a virus will be enough to have them recover!

And she's using authority bias to try and push these lies which is disgusting! "NHS Worker who speaks out" but they are good at leaving out the part about her having no clinical background at all to understand any of what she is saying. No science background, no drug knowledge of a pharmacy assistant, etc. She was a call handler for CareUK that had a contract to provide NHS 111 services...so 'NHS worker' is probably loosely applied. I don't want to offend as obviously 111 provide a necessary service to help manage urgent care in the UK, but the training seems to be anywhere from 2-12 weeks depending on the company providing the services from a quick Google and is all based on computer algorithms prompting what to ask, when to ask for clinical input and then computer/clinician deciding on outcome. Again, no disrespect as important at helping manage urgent care, and some people are no doubt brilliant at their job and care about what they do, etc. but it is a job that still does not give her any understanding of health or NHS processes beyond what 111 can offer from their call centre.
I’d vote for Hannah. ☝
 
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I can’t get over how fed up the truthers seem recently. They seem…. I dunno, defeated.
I only see them on the Ellie Insta but so many are saying it pointless now and that they want to take a step back. They are really subdued.
Have you seen Nurse who wants to be famous last video in birmingham. Sounds and looks very emotional and looks like shes about to keel over. All her friends and family out enjoying themselves and have no doubt alienated her whilst she spends her days walking with a bleeping sandwich board reeling off the same speech. She’s missing out on so much and is probably feeling it now everything is open. Silly girl.
 
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Spent the weekend partying with mates and seeing family like old times and all without making a tit of myself on the gram or sweating at a protest .. they should try just having fun and enjoying life .. sad twats
 
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Have you seen Nurse who wants to be famous last video in birmingham. Sounds and looks very emotional and looks like shes about to keel over. All her friends and family out enjoying themselves and have no doubt alienated her whilst she spends her days walking with a bleeping sandwich board reeling off the same speech. She’s missing out on so much and is probably feeling it now everything is open. Silly girl
I've asked her if she will be doing a post about Sherimani as she's all about protecting nurses. Well see..
 

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Met police have confirmed they are investigating the whackjob ex nurse after her "speech" at the weekend... fingers crossed they charge her and she finds herself taking a little break....I hear Holloway is nice at this time of year (wonder if you have to take a test to go there?!😂)
 

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Seems like a few truthers now sharing information about how diseases and viruses don't exist. FFS what a gateway drug 'dO yOuR oWn ReSeaRCh' is
FFS! Decades ago when the only access to info for most would have been studying at uni, being able to gain access to expensive textbooks, or signing up to expensive subscriptions to paper journals I could have forgiven some of the stupidity as a lot of information was reserved for the various professions and had a lot of financial obstacles to be able to access it.
Now it's literally in the palm of most people's hands. Even most of those without jobs/jobs on the books seem to be able to have instant social media access (yes not everyone though!) with enough data and bandwidth to watch and share a lot of crap. Why not spend time actually reading reputable sources rather than FB theories or random blogs of people with similar credential to themselves (little or none!). It's one thing to just not understand what you are reading and either keep quiet or seek clarification, but these idiots that just spew word vomit all over the screen as fact and the 'incapable-of-free-thought-thinkers' lap it up. There are conditions that are the result of pharmaceuticals, but those conditions/symptoms are not as significant and/or life threatening as the disease they are treating. Indirectly pharmaceuticals probably have resulted in some conditions and disease...WHY?...because they helped increase life expectancy by treating illnesses that previously killed people in childhood or early adulthood. Alzheimer's and various cancers probably weren't a huge issue when people were dying in their 40s or younger of highly communicable diseases or from conditions that are now preventable or diagnosableand treatable. If this lot had their way, we'd be catching cholera from untreated water (because chemicals...), those living in poverty would no doubt have all the diseases of malnutrition as we wouldn't be supplementing if needed, nor would foods be fortified, they'd happily risk their teeth (because fluoride) and well they wouldn't be getting them fixed easily as anaesthetics are drugs, needles likely been sterilised in Ethylene Oxide and they definitely would be refusing sedation for extensive work as well midazolam kills! The bad teeth and gum issues would also be a real risk to heart health because of the risk of endocarditis. Quite a number of them wouldn't survive child birth, and well would be at a lot of risk as they'd no doubt just constantly be popping them out as they wouldn't have all the contraceptive offerings, and I wouldn't be surprised if a handful never actually had kids because well fertility meds and IVF would be a no-go and there's bound to be some truthers out there now that either user fetility services or were the result of. Can you imagine all the limb deformities that were possible as they wouldn't be having pain meds and x-rays for broken bones (and well surgery without drugs...😬). For many of them their botox and fillers wouldn't exist, nevermind anything more invasive.

And when we look away from the UK to the likes of the US, often the poorest are the sickest and cannot afford medication, so who's causing their disease? Look at the amount of diabetics across there that cannot afford insulin...and no McDonald's haven't caused that as they are in on it or anything as we are talking about Type 1 which has nothing to do with weight or diet and usually starts in childhood. What about the disease processes in countries that have poor vaccination rates because of lack of access to medical services?

I am in no way saying there aren't issues with Big Pharma. There have been a lot of issues around ethics and at the end of the day they are private companies looking for profits but to claim they are creating every disease is just ridiculous, unless we are happy to go back to a time where healthcare really didn't exist and we are happy with halfing life expectancy and risking kids having disabling diseases.

Plus, do none of them actually stop and think about the common cold, etc. No doubt they are very much aware of who had it around them when they caught it...evidences viruses exist otherwise why is you kid detoxing from something and then suddenly that starts you detoxing too? Norovirus...why does my partner throwing up put me at risk of throwing up a day or so later if he's just getting rid of the paracetamol he took a few days before? IDIOTS!
 
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Been reading through this thread (from the beginning for the past couple of weeks) and how are these people even functioning members of society (a reach I know). There was a mum blogger I would follow (wasted a lot of money on ghost spots) that didn’t work out so she has now gone full on tin hat. She literally posts reworks of every think Ellie (or whatever her name is, who knows) has ever said. One of my faves was a post she posted recently that claimed the the racism the 3 England players suffered was part of a bigger government plan to distract us. She cooks her children with coconut oil, doesn’t wear make up because of toxins but had a full face the other day, will remove comments that do not agree with her. I liked one of these comments and she proceeded to appear in my inbox with YouTube links. Luckily I’m not gullible enough to fall for any of it but it’s scary how many people hang on to her every word. Oh and apparently food shortages are due to the government spraying the farmers fields with chemicals…. Nothing to do with the fact everyone is being pinged you know. People like this are dangerous.
 

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Seems like a few truthers now sharing information about how diseases and viruses don't exist. FFS what a gateway drug 'dO yOuR oWn ReSeaRCh' is
Think ‘Dr’_Stupid needs to go back to school.
Seriously though, WHERE do they get their information from? 🤯

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Have you seen Nurse who wants to be famous last video in birmingham. Sounds and looks very emotional and looks like shes about to keel over. All her friends and family out enjoying themselves and have no doubt alienated her whilst she spends her days walking with a bleeping sandwich board reeling off the same speech. She’s missing out on so much and is probably feeling it now everything is open. Silly girl.
Apparently you’re incredibly brave these days if you walk around with a sandwich board 🤷🏻‍♂️
I see a few people asked her what questions she wanted to ask & surprise surprise she deleted the comments.
 
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Think ‘Dr’_Stupid needs to go back to school.
Seriously though, WHERE do they get their information from? 🤯

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If I see one more bleep ask if we know what’s in the vaccine, I swear I will punch my own face in.

Message for all the cunts - I actually do not give a duck what the ingredients of the vaccine are. It can have horsepiss, arsenic, cat tit, chicken fat, fairy liquid, I DON’T bleeping CARE!

They ask this, as they flutter their ostrich lashes, smoke their weird cigarettes, attempt to raise their botoxed brows - I actually don’t give a tit. Just as when I needed urgent surgery which would save my life in 2006, I didn’t question the ingredients of the anaesthetic used, nor the pain killing medicine afterwards.

duck me - at what point in history did we start to breed bleeping idiots. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
 
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Been reading through this thread (from the beginning for the past couple of weeks) and how are these people even functioning members of society (a reach I know). There was a mum blogger I would follow (wasted a lot of money on ghost spots) that didn’t work out so she has now gone full on tin hat. She literally posts reworks of every think Ellie (or whatever her name is, who knows) has ever said. One of my faves was a post she posted recently that claimed the the racism the 3 England players suffered was part of a bigger government plan to distract us. She cooks her children with coconut oil, doesn’t wear make up because of toxins but had a full face the other day, will remove comments that do not agree with her. I liked one of these comments and she proceeded to appear in my inbox with YouTube links. Luckily I’m not gullible enough to fall for any of it but it’s scary how many people hang on to her every word. Oh and apparently food shortages are due to the government spraying the farmers fields with chemicals…. Nothing to do with the fact everyone is being pinged you know. People like this are dangerous.
Never come across her before but wow! Obsessed with food shortages! Brexit was always going to cause some issues and we likely are beginning to see the effect of that after the most recent Brexit changes, but as most Supermarkets are telling us, most of the issues are being caused by self-isolation of HGV drivers (along with Brexit reducing numbers). Many companies are offering to pay for people to go through HGV licences just now which they wouldn't usually do and it's on the individual, because the rush for the Brexiteers to want to see masses of Europeans leave and then the rush to remove all restrictions leaving people at greater risk of being 'pinged'. They are crying out for the irrational to stop panic buying as they are the ones causing the empty shelves again when they are struggling with warehouses being down staff and limited drivers.

And the claims about not being able to report adverse effects easily...it is one of the easiest things to do EVER! Anyone can do it, you need no proof, etc. The Yellow Card scheme is mentioned on the vaccine info leaflet you are given. They've not stopped banging on about it so I'm sure people are aware, if they haven't already discussed it with a doctor or pharmacist and had it suggested to them (and they would fill it in themselves for the patient if it seemed significant side effect). I've attached a screenshot of my Cerelle PIL (and checked my other prescribed medications and they also state same info), as well as a generic shop bought paracetamol packet and that shows that directly below listed side effects, all these medications tell you exactly where to go to report adverse effects, and it seems as though there is even an app for those hellbent on reporting everything, so it's not difficult and ignorance isn't an excuse! Most people will have that information in their own homes amongst medications, nevermind the vaccine leaflet and it is easily found on the Internet!

If I see one more bleep ask if we know what’s in the vaccine, I swear I will punch my own face in.

Message for all the cunts - I actually do not give a duck what the ingredients of the vaccine are. It can have horsepiss, arsenic, cat tit, chicken fat, fairy liquid, I DON’T bleeping CARE!

They ask this, as they flutter their ostrich lashes, smoke their weird cigarettes, attempt to raise their botoxed brows - I actually don’t give a tit. Just as when I needed urgent surgery which would save my life in 2006, I didn’t question the ingredients of the anaesthetic used, nor the pain killing medicine afterwards.

duck me - at what point in history did we start to breed bleeping idiots. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
If water was presented to then as dihydrogen monoxide, I'm sure they'd all be finding toxicity reports for that too as they have no understanding of what any of it means and what safe levels are, etc.
 

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