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Surely the point of being a true crime YouTuber is that you do the research and put your videos together. If she wants someone else to do that for her, surely they could set up their own channel
She would literally just be a presenter. I’d get it if she was hiring an editor or something like that, but hiring someone to do everything for you seems…weird Also, the fact she doesn’t mention pay seems shady to me. Any job advert that neglects to mention any kind of pay is a bit shifty in my opinion. I know sometimes it’s discussed at interviews but prospective employees deserve to know what they can expect so they know of it can financially support them.
Wubbalubbadubbdubb
New member
I liked her until I noticed she was constantly putting bits at the beginning about why her videos were late. I would binge watch her videos and she was making excuses in like.. Every one. She acted like it was cute and quirky. I do generally like her content I just don't understand why she gets so many views. Maybe a lot of her fans are teens
citrineday
Chatty Member
just got a notification for her new video which she’s named the “8 child massacre”. i genuinely don’t even have words for how money grabbing, disrespectful, and insensitive that is.
Okay I just watched her new video and I'm baffled and concerned seeing the lack of nuance, mob mentality, and ignorance of how a civilized legal system is supposed to work that I'm witnessing in the comments.
Half the people there are saying "who cares if violent criminals get a fair trail or not, how can lawyers live with themselves when defending someone like this, I wish police officers were allowed to be as harsh as they want when interrogating criminals".
Like, are they literal children? Do they realize that these rules are there to prevent miscarriages of justice that could potentially result in innocent people suffering? The case literally featured the father and grandpa of the victim almost being intimidated into giving false confessions by the police. Did they forget about that part?
Half the people there are saying "who cares if violent criminals get a fair trail or not, how can lawyers live with themselves when defending someone like this, I wish police officers were allowed to be as harsh as they want when interrogating criminals".
Like, are they literal children? Do they realize that these rules are there to prevent miscarriages of justice that could potentially result in innocent people suffering? The case literally featured the father and grandpa of the victim almost being intimidated into giving false confessions by the police. Did they forget about that part?
Tbh I can't imagine it being real because from the small amount of videos I've seen of Eleanor's, she does seem like she'd be a quiet person in real life.
But this post has over 50 likes, some of them being love hearts which to me would suggest there's people who saw that and agreed with it. What were the comments like, did anyone call them out?
velvetn0mates
VIP Member
wellll you're on a public forum and people can, unfortunately, say what they'd like.
Sadly she has been doing this for a while, I remember one she titled "KILLED FOR KEBAB MEAT?" or similar. Just tacky and disrespectful, not to mention very likely false in that case and it only serves to spread misinformation
i also didn't understand why she was naming two+ parters entirely different names but it makes sense - more clicks, more views, more ad revenue etc. There's absolutely no other reason and quite frankly it's disgusting, how does she live with herself?
Blueblue123
VIP Member
No one's asking her to do this. She doesn't have to be there looking cute. That's no help to the victims of these crimes or their families.
And why is she reducing the cases to "stories"? This isn't sleepover club.
authorn00b
Member
Her videos have changed because they used to be about the cases themselves, and now, Eleanor's videos are all about Eleanor. She's the new centre of everything and she's essentially advertising herself as an influencer in her 'reading wikipedia for an hour' videos, because being an influencer is clearly what she really wants to do. Her ego has outgrown the channel's subject matter and she's adding in all her stupid little quirks to appeal to the kids more, because who gives a crap about being respectful when making little kids think you're cool and trendy is where the money's at.
The way Eleanor talks about the Columbine killers in the Danny Phantom video, as if those boys were edgy and relatable, made me want to vomit. She was on the verge of idolising them and that's such a dangerous thing to do when your viewership consists of mainly highly impressionable preteens. Eleanor needs to get a clue before she contributes to something very bad...
The way Eleanor talks about the Columbine killers in the Danny Phantom video, as if those boys were edgy and relatable, made me want to vomit. She was on the verge of idolising them and that's such a dangerous thing to do when your viewership consists of mainly highly impressionable preteens. Eleanor needs to get a clue before she contributes to something very bad...
ot55
VIP Member
Another two parter! It’s so obvious she’s doing it so she can get at least two sponsorships per case. Also it’s really irritating me that she makes the two parts sound completely unrelated:
‘The English eyeball killer’ and ‘the school boy serial killer’
‘The reality tv show murder’ and ‘the body found in a suitcase’
Totally agree that the titles are pure clickbait. Like the one she titled ‘the Chinese takeaway killer’...it seemed really unnecessary
‘The English eyeball killer’ and ‘the school boy serial killer’
‘The reality tv show murder’ and ‘the body found in a suitcase’
Totally agree that the titles are pure clickbait. Like the one she titled ‘the Chinese takeaway killer’...it seemed really unnecessary
Zoepenguin
Active member
Jesus, so she's basically hiring somone to come up with her content? I can understand hiring an editor or something like that but this just leaves a bad taste. I rarely watch her videos anymore cos so many others do true crime better than her now. The success and money had clearly gone to her head and she wants to put in as little effort as possible.
hallandoatmilk
Chatty Member
It’s also just the sensationalism of her title. He wasn’t her stalker, he was a man who essentially groomed her and who she thought was her friend. She trusted him and confided in him and when she didn’t want a romantic relationship with him, he decided that if he couldn’t have her nobody could.
It’s so much more nuanced than him being a “stalker” but I mean you gotta click bait right??? She should be ashamed. The most recent uproar about this case was only last year when Gabbie Hanna and Angelika Oles got into it and the family once again had to come out and beg content creators to stop using their daughter‘s murder for content
Lol stfu Eleanor. Look at Stephanie Harlowe for example, she uploads hour+ long videos doing deep dives into cases. Granted she does split some of them up but usually when they run for well over an hour and more often than not they're older cases which she approaches sensitively. EN on the other hand splits them up by like 30 mins each which is ridiculous and worst of all she sensationalises them. And what education exactly? If my friend or relative was brutally murdered and she put up a video about their case with a clickbait title like that, I'd be fuming, hurt and disgusted. If she wanted to educate then why not do current, unsolved cases? and/or missing people? I know I said Kendall isn't much better but she at least does that and gives the friends/relatives a platform. a lot of people think true crime buffs are in it for the "entertainment" aspect and people like EN don't help that stereotype. so done with her
Qwerty01xx
Active member
I've seen tiktok videos litrally 1 minute long talk about a case start to finish that have more details then elenore posts
Ellewoods
Well-known member
Yes to this!!
Elenor going “OMG LOOK AT THIS PHONE CASE I LOVE IT ITS A LIFE SAVER…anyway let’s talk about this dead girl lol” ain’t for me
alwys.liddle
New member
I got 2 things:
1. Guessing her most recent video didn’t get as many views as normal bc she posted a community post today asking if “you guys have seen (her) latest video?! it’s a 2-parter (ofc) and will be out soon!!” [ETA: jk it’s actually a 3-parter!]
2. So, she’s doing a story that was set during the war (assuming WWII) and one of the first thing she says (before sponsor even) is that she’s “sorry bc she doesn’t know anything about the war” at all.
No wonder nobody wants to watch it, 30 seconds in and she’s basically admitting to not being able to provide a full, nuanced, cohesive story. I’m sure the fact the horrors of war in the background of this serial killer c/would make this much richer, but nah man, gotta get it out.
Also, maybe a different title than ‘brownout’ murders. makes it sound like some killer just shit his pants on everyone. ugh.
1. Guessing her most recent video didn’t get as many views as normal bc she posted a community post today asking if “you guys have seen (her) latest video?! it’s a 2-parter (ofc) and will be out soon!!” [ETA: jk it’s actually a 3-parter!]
2. So, she’s doing a story that was set during the war (assuming WWII) and one of the first thing she says (before sponsor even) is that she’s “sorry bc she doesn’t know anything about the war” at all.
No wonder nobody wants to watch it, 30 seconds in and she’s basically admitting to not being able to provide a full, nuanced, cohesive story. I’m sure the fact the horrors of war in the background of this serial killer c/would make this much richer, but nah man, gotta get it out.
Also, maybe a different title than ‘brownout’ murders. makes it sound like some killer just shit his pants on everyone. ugh.