Her poor folks - when you retire and just want to spend time together! I’d say she was painful as a teenager and has them totally controlled!
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She reminds me of a family member…baby after baby and once they turn 2/3 they ‘do her head in’
Yeah babies tend to grow.
Yeah babies tend to grow.
Exactly! I haven't had kids yet but if and when I'm lucky enough to, there's no way I would dump them on my parents/in laws routinely. You had kids! You made that choice!
This is exactly what I'm trying to say (less eloquently than you)! Your parents DID their time parenting and raising you. Allow them to enjoy their freedom. Don't abuse their good will by having them serve as glorified free babysitters. I'm actually in shock that she's admitted she gets a free Sunday morning EVERY week! Isn't her mother recovering from or still actively receiving treatment for cancer?! And she's been happily dumping the responsibility of minding her children on them for the last couple of years? She is selfish beyond words.
It's the lies that get me. Skincare can only do so much, no matter how expensive it is.
Always think of Paula Begoun when people try to claim the right serum can work miracles:
"You don’t believe skincare brands should promise to reverse the clock 10, 15 or 20 years, but you look great. You would be proof that skincare products can make people look 10, 15 or 20 years younger.
Begoun: Oh no, let’s be clear. I know when people look at me what parts of my looking young is about my skincare products. There’s no question that aspects of my skin texture, the lack of brown spots [are from skincare], but there’s no way you get to my age, and you don’t have cosmetic procedures or facelifts. You just can’t have a jawline or a neckline without procedures, you can’t. I love when you hear celebrities say, “Oh, I’ve never had surgery,” and they’re in their 40s or 50s and their forehead doesn’t move and you just compare their lips from two years ago to today.
And I don’t know why that’s a problem. I don’t know why women or men should be embarrassed by it. When I’ve had procedures, particularly when I’ve had a facelift, people say, “Oh, you don’t need a facelift,” and I always have my response, “I should wait until my jaw is hanging down on my chest?” I know that a lot of times women wait too long, and they look over-pulled and overdone or their skin is so damaged by the sun they get a pasty almost ghostlike look to their skin when they have procedures done.
I’m not advocating people get procedures. What I’m saying is that I know the limitation of skincare. I know the brilliance of skincare. The sooner you do brilliant skincare and you stay with it and you pay attention to sun protection and pollution protection, I know how successful your skin can look and then what can add to it if you do choose to do procedures. Anybody who works for a brand or owns a brand, and they’re over 50 or 60 and they say it’s because of their products, they’re fibbing through their teeth."
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Does anyone follow Vicky o Dwyer? Possible to make a thread for her?
Her parents are up in years i know her dad and he was teaching me to swim 22 years ago and he was old enough at that stage
A little bit mean, but when I was viewing her stories this evening, my boyfriend goes “who’s that? The state of her. She looks like she’s been beaten up”, I asked her what he meant and he was talking about the bags under her eyes… didn’t know what she did or what she was promoting. The total irony. It goes by the same token, that if I was seeing a nutritionist, I’d want them to have perfect skin and nails etc. Also, how does she not already offer Botox in her clinic?
How much money does she spend on everything?? The Botox, the weight loss thing, the skin care
And off away from the kids again
And off away from the kids again
She's really ramping it up, even by her standards, the last few weeks! Full body makeover type thing going on!
Just for fun....(or perspective
):That Cutera Flex/Emsculpt treatment is over 500 a go, from what I've seen online.
Botox.....depends (she didn't say who does hers or if she gets a freebie for being a fellow doctor), but she said full face and given one area can be 250-300, I'd says 600/700 for that. Maybe more because she got her lips done with it too (never heard of this lip flip before this week but suddenly seen it on several people's stories after hers, weirdly).
Veneers .......2/3 thousand at least? Haven't had personal experience with them but I believe they're a few hundred a tooth?
So a good few thousand in just the last couple of weeks it seems.
All slotted in between her busy holiday schedule and "work" trips. Hunza G swimsuits and 500 euro wicker beach bags pre requisite for these frequent jaunts, naturally.
I mean, people can do what they want with their own money, but her spending (in my personal opinion) is astronomical and seems sort of recklessly non-stop for a "working" mum of three with (I assume, but who knows) a mortgage, etc......and it's just so galling when she is coining it in doing f*** all but shilling product. Then trotting off with the profits to get Botox and oversized veneers
I was thinking the same, a lot of money spent on herself and the house recently.
However, I really want Botox now, it has improved her skin although as posted earlier, her eye bags are an issue.
She spends hundreds on stuff for her face and tbh, the biggest improvement I have seen is the Botox, which she doesn’t even do at her clinic!
So I think, she is using Victoria now To do all the work and she swans off to any course she can do that gets her a night or two away from the kids
People paying big money to get their facial or peel from a doctor, and they get Victoria
Not to detract from her, I am sure she is qualified in the field, but Dr Laura uses her Dr status to add €€€ to the price!
However, I really want Botox now, it has improved her skin although as posted earlier, her eye bags are an issue.
She spends hundreds on stuff for her face and tbh, the biggest improvement I have seen is the Botox, which she doesn’t even do at her clinic!
So I think, she is using Victoria now To do all the work and she swans off to any course she can do that gets her a night or two away from the kids
People paying big money to get their facial or peel from a doctor, and they get Victoria
Not to detract from her, I am sure she is qualified in the field, but Dr Laura uses her Dr status to add €€€ to the price!
No, I totally get what you mean. Good luck to Victoria, but she's hardly a highly experienced aesthetician at this point (she was a clerical staff member initially when she joined there all of a year ago... and now Laura says she has "all her certifications"). If that's the career path she wants to go down, good for her. But she'd be well advised to enroll in a properly accredited course rather than attending random skin brand trainings Laura ships her out to. I don't consider that to be someone who is extensively trained in skin treatments. However, neither is Laura in my opinion.
I am quite in to skincare and I attend a really knowledgeable and highly trained facialist a couple of times a year, so not at all denigrating non-doctor treatments. Last year, I also started to go to a highly trained former dentist who then switched to specialising in skincare (injectables, etc.) several years ago, owns her own clinic (where the other two staff are doctors and all seem to actually work full time schedules, shockingly
) and she's absolutely amazing. I really appreciate that she has never tried to sell me any products, from day one. There is product available, but the approach is very much "if you're happy with your routine, no need to be buying ten more creams". Probably obvious who/what clinic I mean Amazing as skincare can be (and I love it), there are limitations to what it can do, obviously, but my own personal interventional approach is very minimal. I only get Botox in my chin (have a very strange overactive muscle there as I've a small jaw, so it smoothes it out) and Profhilo. I'm actually in this month for them and I would not be impressed if a receptionist was suddenly presented to me as her stand in for the day, even it was "only" a peel or medical facial.
Yeah, I though that was very cheeky!!!
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Is she in the UK? Assuming short flight.
The "Aer Lingus don't require masks now so I'll show you my skincare routine" annoyed me. Like, you're *supposed* to be a doctor. You could choose to be more responsible and wear one anyway. I mean, we know you don't actually see patients...but you could act like you care. And, would HATE to be next to that wan on a flight and have her droning on making her videos. Give it a rest!
And if the UK, why on earth would you need specific skincare for a short flight? If your skin is that fragile and needy, you're doing something wrong with your routine.
Plus the airport shopping reviews! She's so clueless. Can't go wrong with Clinique Dramatically Different?
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Well, you could also do a lot better with something cheaper. It's very mediocre and unexciting. Lots of great options out there these days, including Cerave, Curel etc and of course La Roche, Avene and so on. She reminds me of someone at a beauty counter (no shade, some are great!) more than a professional.
There's really only so much skincare or facials can do. You're just stuck with more invasive treatments to get noticeable effect otherwise, I think. I mean, she had Ultherapy which is expensive and apparently quite painful. Not a nothing. Definitely thousands spent.
She has some undereye hollowing, which no cream will sort. Maybe resurfacing or the PRP she's tried. She's lucky to have so much facial fullness in general though. Not like she needs to think about filler much for herself.
The "Aer Lingus don't require masks now so I'll show you my skincare routine" annoyed me. Like, you're *supposed* to be a doctor. You could choose to be more responsible and wear one anyway. I mean, we know you don't actually see patients...but you could act like you care. And, would HATE to be next to that wan on a flight and have her droning on making her videos. Give it a rest!
And if the UK, why on earth would you need specific skincare for a short flight? If your skin is that fragile and needy, you're doing something wrong with your routine.
Plus the airport shopping reviews! She's so clueless. Can't go wrong with Clinique Dramatically Different?
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Intrigued by Profhilo. May try it at some stage, but place I most want it is around my mouth. Have smoker's lines despite never smoking. WAY too expressive! Know Botox and filler can help, but would have to time Botox right to learn how to talk again, potentially.No, I totally get what you mean. Good luck to Victoria, but she's hardly a highly experienced aesthetician at this point (she was a clerical staff member initially when she joined there all of a year ago... and now Laura says she has "all her certifications"). If that's the career path she wants to go down, good for her. But she'd be well advised to enroll in a properly accredited course rather than attending random skin brand trainings Laura ships her out to. I don't consider that to be someone who is extensively trained in skin treatments. However, neither is Laura in my opinion.
I am quite in to skincare and I attend a really knowledgeable and highly trained facialist a couple of times a year, so not at all denigrating non-doctor treatments. Last year, I also started to go to a highly trained former dentist who then switched to specialising in skincare (injectables, etc.) several years ago, owns her own clinic (where the other two staff are doctors and all seem to actually work full time schedules, shockingly
Amazing as skincare can be (and I love it), there are limitations to what it can do, obviously, but my own personal interventional approach is very minimal. I only get Botox in my chin (have a very strange overactive muscle there as I've a small jaw, so it smoothes it out) and Profhilo. I'm actually in this month for them and I would not be impressed if a receptionist was suddenly presented to me as her stand in for the day, even it was "only" a peel or medical facial.
Yeah, I though that was very cheeky!!!
There's really only so much skincare or facials can do. You're just stuck with more invasive treatments to get noticeable effect otherwise, I think. I mean, she had Ultherapy which is expensive and apparently quite painful. Not a nothing. Definitely thousands spent.
She has some undereye hollowing, which no cream will sort. Maybe resurfacing or the PRP she's tried. She's lucky to have so much facial fullness in general though. Not like she needs to think about filler much for herself.
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I've been very impressed with Profhilo. Have noticed a marked difference in general skin hydration and improvement in fine lines (I admittedly did not have many, but nothing helped those under my eyes before Profhilo and now I have none there. It is also a sort of preventive and accumulative treatment so I've convinced myself it's an investment procedureIs she in the UK? Assuming short flight.
The "Aer Lingus don't require masks now so I'll show you my skincare routine" annoyed me. Like, you're *supposed* to be a doctor. You could choose to be more responsible and wear one anyway. I mean, we know you don't actually see patients...but you could act like you care. And, would HATE to be next to that wan on a flight and have her droning on making her videos. Give it a rest!
And if the UK, why on earth would you need specific skincare for a short flight? If your skin is that fragile and needy, you're doing something wrong with your routine.
Plus the airport shopping reviews! She's so clueless. Can't go wrong with Clinique Dramatically Different?
Well, you could also do a lot better with something cheaper. It's very mediocre and unexciting. Lots of great options out there these days, including Cerave, Curel etc and of course La Roche, Avene and so on. She reminds me of someone at a beauty counter (no shade, some are great!) more than a professional.About Beautypedia | Paula's Choice
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Intrigued by Profhilo. May try it at some stage, but place I most want it is around my mouth. Have smoker's lines despite never smoking. WAY too expressive! Know Botox and filler can help, but would have to time Botox right to learn how to talk again, potentially.
There's really only so much skincare or facials can do. You're just stuck with more invasive treatments to get noticeable effect otherwise, I think. I mean, she had Ultherapy which is expensive and apparently quite painful. Not a nothing. Definitely thousands spent.
She has some undereye hollowing, which no cream will sort. Maybe resurfacing or the PRP she's tried. She's lucky to have so much facial fullness in general though. Not like she needs to think about filler much for herself.
) and naso labial folds have diminished. My face has always been full anyway naturally, and a bit more so at the moment due to weight, so hopefully when it's all come off (in progress), my face won't be like a deflated balloon thanks to the Profhilo It's administered in ten injections, five each side mirroring the other. I'm a bit scared of filler but maybe in a few years, for that pesky naso labial area. I'm getting Profhilo in my neck also for the first time at the end of the month (have only had it in face so far, three times in about 21 months, but actually have more prominent lines on my neck.....tech neck I think the youth call it). I will be interested to see the results there. Sorry for derailing! But I'd definitely recommend Profhilo from my own personal experience 
My understanding is it's quite tedious and difficult to inject so I really hope Laura gets extensive training if she plans on bringing it in.You also do still need to wear masks on some flights depending on the rules in the country. We had to going to and coming back from Lisbon last week as masks are still mandatory in Portugal on public transport.
I thought she was going to the US when she started on about an in flight routine.....what the hell!!!???
It's like 40 mins, that is bizarre behaviour. I'd be giving seriously weird looks to someone beside me if they pulled out their skincare kit on a flight to London. The notions!!Thanks for the Profhilo info! You see so much online etc but it's not the same as someone's actual personal experience. Like, when they're selling it they're obviously going to make it sound great. Different to hear a real person's experience and much more helpful. Really really valuable!I've been very impressed with Profhilo. Have noticed a marked difference in general skin hydration and improvement in fine lines (I admittedly did not have many, but nothing helped those under my eyes before Profhilo and now I have none there. It is also a sort of preventive and accumulative treatment so I've convinced myself it's an investment procedure
You also do still need to wear masks on some flights depending on the rules in the country. We had to going to and coming back from Lisbon last week as masks are still mandatory in Portugal on public transport.
I thought she was going to the US when she started on about an in flight routine.....what the hell!!!???
Have a guy (like, a doctor
) who I go to for my Botox and like/trust, so will see what he thinks. He's great for not pushing things too. Listened to what I wanted to achieve and only tweaked it. Went to another one before who thought he was God's gift and was determined to do my forehead which I didn't actually want - was interested in frown lines and a bit of a brow lift. Definitely taught me a lot about listening to patients.I barely even need to do much for my skin on a transatlantic trip! I mean, apart from washing it on the way back. My hands and lips get dry sometimes, but otherwise barely notice. You'd swear she was taking a boat to the Arctic, not sitting on a short hop.
No problem, happy to share the knowledge! Yes, I like that my practitioner was really honest and not at all pushy with me from the get go. I went for a consultation (you can't book directly in for injectables there which I also see as a good sign) and was pretty much set on Profhilo being what I wanted anyway, and that was literally the only thing she suggested for my skin (and when I pointed out my odd chin, she said literally a tiny squeeze of Botox sorts that). She was like you in no way need filler or anything like that or Botox anywhere else (as yet anywayThanks for the Profhilo info! You see so much online etc but it's not the same as someone's actual personal experience. Like, when they're selling it they're obviously going to make it sound great. Different to hear a real person's experience and much more helpful. Really really valuable!
Have a guy (like, a doctor
I barely even need to do much for my skin on a transatlantic trip! I mean, apart from washing it on the way back. My hands and lips get dry sometimes, but otherwise barely notice. You'd swear she was taking a boat to the Arctic, not sitting on a short hop.
). There would be people who would just shoot up your whole face (I say that as someone who also used to work for a Dermatologist years ago and saw A LOT of over administration and non conservative approach to Botox and fillers....). I have super thin lips and she did say, as full disclosure cos you get basically a full face assessment, "you could do your lips if you like, but that's entirely an aesthetic thing and personal choice" (they do very natural ones) but I have never pursued that and it's never been raised since, so no agenda there to push treatments. I am tit scared of lip filler I have actually never been on a long haul flight and I think even if I was, I'd just wait till I got to my destination to embark on a full routine. Too messy and too much faff to start doing that (also I think I'd be way too self conscious of other people around me). Maybe a rehydrating spritz or something would be about the height of it
But doing it on such a short haul actually makes her look even more of a knob Can you give me a clue who you go to???No, I totally get what you mean. Good luck to Victoria, but she's hardly a highly experienced aesthetician at this point (she was a clerical staff member initially when she joined there all of a year ago... and now Laura says she has "all her certifications"). If that's the career path she wants to go down, good for her. But she'd be well advised to enroll in a properly accredited course rather than attending random skin brand trainings Laura ships her out to. I don't consider that to be someone who is extensively trained in skin treatments. However, neither is Laura in my opinion.
I am quite in to skincare and I attend a really knowledgeable and highly trained facialist a couple of times a year, so not at all denigrating non-doctor treatments. Last year, I also started to go to a highly trained former dentist who then switched to specialising in skincare (injectables, etc.) several years ago, owns her own clinic (where the other two staff are doctors and all seem to actually work full time schedules, shockingly
Amazing as skincare can be (and I love it), there are limitations to what it can do, obviously, but my own personal interventional approach is very minimal. I only get Botox in my chin (have a very strange overactive muscle there as I've a small jaw, so it smoothes it out) and Profhilo. I'm actually in this month for them and I would not be impressed if a receptionist was suddenly presented to me as her stand in for the day, even it was "only" a peel or medical facial.
Yeah, I though that was very cheeky!!!
Thanks for the info, really want to get Profhilo!
That sounds like an excellent place and the right type of practitioner! Honest, but not pushy. Listens to you and skilled enough to do just what's needed instead of giving everyone the same face. Didn't enjoy guy here in the UK trying to freeze my forehead, and it didn't even make sense when it was going against the brow lift. First time I had Botox was in Canada and he tried to get me interested in tear trough filler too. He described how he'd inject himself between patients etc and had done it to himself. At the time, he looked pretty good! Had Botox from a nurse practitioner later who said she'd worked in the same area of the city for a while and could always tell who'd been to him by the filler/way they looked. The good ones aren't known because you just look...good!No problem, happy to share the knowledge! Yes, I like that my practitioner was really honest and not at all pushy with me from the get go. I went for a consultation (you can't book directly in for injectables there which I also see as a good sign) and was pretty much set on Profhilo being what I wanted anyway, and that was literally the only thing she suggested for my skin (and when I pointed out my odd chin, she said literally a tiny squeeze of Botox sorts that). She was like you in no way need filler or anything like that or Botox anywhere else (as yet anyway
I have actually never been on a long haul flight and I think even if I was, I'd just wait till I got to my destination to embark on a full routine. Too messy and too much faff to start doing that (also I think I'd be way too self conscious of other people around me). Maybe a rehydrating spritz or something would be about the height of it
Kept an eye on him since then...and he really is not the best judge of how much he needs.
Profhilo sounds more like my cup of tea.
Has anyone tried Ultherapy or Hydrafacial? Don't want lower facial Ulthera (too many horror stories about fat loss) but wondering about brow lift.
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