Jimmy being challenged on saying they'd had an 80% reduction in income
Ed: "It's some serious gymnastic maths to say that that's gone down by 80%"
James: "It has yeah ... the the income had gone down by 80% because of the trolls"
Ed: "650,000 pounds 21-22, 1.25 million pounds 22-23, that is not an 80% reduction"
James: "No but it looked like 80% to me when I done it, when I said it, OK it might have been a bit misleading but the way I do my maths is by"
Ed: "a bit misleading?"
James: "yeah, but the way I do my maths is by the whole scope of everything." [cut] "It was a mistake then, I made a mistake, I am only human"
Ed: "People have donated to you because they thought Depher was going to go out of business"
James: "Right yeah I can understand that, I can understand that"
Ed: "and that is not happening!"
James: "I can understand that"
would recommend people watch it, as aside from the words, you can see Slippin' Jimmy do his full conman routine in body language and voice and the 'humbled' (*) journo isn't having it
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