Dan Wheeler 8020 #8 No negativity, no one can vent, but the price has gone up 100%

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Welcome to TCHQ, Mildred!! šŸ¤—
I NEVER joined the plan but saw thriufh
Ok, number 50 here. I have to admit I am conflicted. Dan has caused a lot of pain to many people but I really struggle with the whole hate thing.

I donā€™t hate anyone. Personally, for me,this is just too strong. I genuinely wish him good health and happiness in the same way that I would wish anybody the same.
However, the narcissist just doesnā€™t learn. And, omg, there is so much pain.

Wishing him ill is not helpful.
I see the standpoint but I dont think its entirely valid.

DW isn't an innocent bystander that a group decided to not like.

DW is giving out terrible, neigh DANGEROUS advice. That could seriously harm someone.

Hes committing fraud on a regular basis and is recommending things for conditions that require specialist training to understand.

Im a MH professional and if I hear carbs before bed for serotonin again I might actually cry.

I dont wish him dead but hes not an innocent party, hes committed some criminal acts, some hideously unethical acts and is dangerous.

Some suitable punishment may be that he just gets run out of this business.
 
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Whatā€™s new and improved on the plan then? Considering heā€™s charging top dollar šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

I get the same, probably more support then he gives for Ā£50 a year.

How the hell is this increase justified?

68+1 here šŸ˜
 
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I reported on false health information on his other videos as well as spam
 
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I NEVER joined the plan but saw thriufh


I see the standpoint but I dont think its entirely valid.

DW isn't an innocent bystander that a group decided to not like.

DW is giving out terrible, neigh DANGEROUS advice. That could seriously harm someone.

Hes committing fraud on a regular basis and is recommending things for conditions that require specialist training to understand.

Im a MH professional and if I hear carbs before bed for serotonin again I might actually cry.

I dont wish him dead but hes not an innocent party, hes committed some criminal acts, some hideously unethical acts and is dangerous.

Some suitable punishment may be that he just gets run out of this business.
Thank you. I appreciate your viewpoint.
I really value this forum as we can have an honest exchange of views without judgement. Itā€™s quite refreshing! And Iā€™m very grateful.
 
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I am 79, so this must be 80
Oooops sorry xx yes they ll be #80

Iā€™ve been lurking here since the start, didnā€™t join the plan thankfully.

I remember when I first saw Dan on TikTok, I actually liked him, I thought he was genuine blah blah.

His following grew and so did is ego and bam, I spotted all his narcissistic traits, not sure how I missed it.

He is amazing at gaslighting. Iā€™ll give him that.

EDIT. I did consider joining at one point, thankfully Iā€™m an indecisive person.
You are #80 xxxx
 
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Iā€™m #50 and you lot threatened to visit (the door is still bolted šŸ¤Ŗ). What are you going to do to number 100? It wonā€™t be long till they join inā€¦ šŸ˜‚
 
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Thank you. I appreciate your viewpoint.
I really value this forum as we can have an honest exchange of views without judgement. Itā€™s quite refreshing! And Iā€™m very grateful.
You're welcome.

Just like some folk forgive those who wronged they dont forget they were wronged.

Get him back flogging printers and pontificating. But giving out medical advice, charging top dollar (I have TWO gym memberships for less) talking about subjects he doesnt understand.

Making people ill, threatening to expose them as leedos. Threatening death (staff) and not condoning.

You may notice Im a strength coach too, and have pointed out some of his really incorrect and a little incorrect info. I offered to debate. Can you guess the outcome?

Like a man that sells you cut and shut cars. Noones hanging him from a tree but him still selling cars isnt ok
 
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Iā€™m #50 and you lot threatened to visit (the door is still bolted šŸ¤Ŗ). What are you going to do to number 100? It wonā€™t be long till they join inā€¦ šŸ˜‚
They get a year of free Tattle membership, and we tell them it's worth over Ā£1000.
 
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Just doing last minute checks šŸ™„šŸ˜…
Omg so bloody unprofessional. I thought ā€œhunā€ was bad enough but ā€œthatā€™s what she saidā€! Honestly what an absolute tit show!

As expected. Total load of old shite šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£
OMG WTF is this - the shittiest prize ever? Membership to a tit show, an ego stroking e book and a random video talking about a subject he knows F all about other than info heā€™s found on Google. Getting to the point where Iā€™m actually embarrassed for him now!

Ok, number 50 here. I have to admit I am conflicted. Dan has caused a lot of pain to many people but I really struggle with the whole hate thing.

I donā€™t hate anyone. Personally, for me,this is just too strong. I genuinely wish him good health and happiness in the same way that I would wish anybody the same.
However, the narcissist just doesnā€™t learn. And, omg, there is so much pain.

Wishing him ill is not helpful.
Fair enough! Personally I just wish karma on him!

Iā€™ve been lurking here since the start, didnā€™t join the plan thankfully.

I remember when I first saw Dan on TikTok, I actually liked him, I thought he was genuine blah blah.

His following grew and so did is ego and bam, I spotted all his narcissistic traits, not sure how I missed it.

He is amazing at gaslighting. Iā€™ll give him that.

EDIT. I did consider joining at one point, thankfully Iā€™m an indecisive person.
As a child of the 80ā€™s, I bloody love your tattle name!

What on earth is he nervous about?! šŸ˜‚ so funny. Nervous about a Facebook giveaway that has not cost him a single penny ?! Mental
Nervous because even his delusional self knows itā€™s an absolute pile of shite
 
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OK Im ill but on the way out and can't sleep.

Serotonin is made with Trytophan

Trytophan is an essential amino acid. Ie you do NOT produce it.

You need PROTEIN. Im sorry but the NHS figures arent good on this.

Carbs help seperate long chain amino acids and push Trytophan through the Blood Brain Barrier (and into the muscles; leucine etc).

Do carbs help with Serotonin production, kinda, but only if you've got amino acids in the blood stream.

THEREFORE;

CARBS

Carbs release Serotonin. NO. JUST NO.

Carbs before bed for sleep. Nope.

Carbs make you happy. Nup.

Well, I love chips and they're nice. But so is a good poo.

He's almost there but would he listen?

CORTISOL

You ABSOLUTELY need cortisol. It wakes you up in the morning. Helps you supercharge and is involved with fat oxidising.

Too much is bad, too little is bad.

Does cortisol ruin things? Yeah if too low OR too high.

Sleep and stress DO matter but hes not adding it up correctly. They matter mainly as youll eat more. We are human beings not nuclear fission we do not create energy. If you truly eat 1200 cals 7 days a week 52 weeks you're not getting fat. You just arent. Im ill and haven't slept, took kid to school craved cookies all day those soft type and I prefer crisps.

FATS

"saturated fat is needed and improves hormones"

No.

Saturated fat became synonymous with cholesterol.

There's multiple types, we have all heard HDL and LDL?

He's almost right but hes too arrogant to hear it. You need fats. You dont need saturated fats.

By all means enjoy a burger but dont call it pwoper nootwition. Get your omegas in.

EAT MORE; MOVE MORE

Absolutely will improve quality of life and and 80/20 REAL rule is COMPLETELY (sorry cant italic) valid. He should have stayed here and in this lane. His calories are just too high for some. Do you know some obese people compensate 50% of exercise cals burn by BMR REDUCTION? (Average 28%) . So for SOME moving more to 10k and eating at maintainence is going to work. Most people need to eat more tbh but they also need to move. We are not a feat of engineering we are highly evolved and our lives are very sedentary. Some cant move more or flap their arms and in some that effort may not be worth the same as calorie reduction.

Youve heard of thermic effect of food and know protein is highest? Second is Carbs NOT fat!

Imagine you're smashing 4k reduced to 3k and move twice as much even with adaptations above you'll get some shift. But this is NOT "the plan" working. But if you're stable is on 1500 and little activity maybe 6000 steps; DW gives you 2100 for maintenance (unless you're 47kg...) and tells you to sack your PT. You burn 600 walking (unlikely) but then your BMR reduces by 300. You're now in surplus and gaining. He calls you lazy or trust the plan.

Its not ok. He doesnt understand this. Ironically for those on the top end of BMR reduction it can improve the leaner you get. Sometimes it's a harsher start. But if you have no context, no feedback and no review or adjustments. "1500 nah mate sack your PT theyre useless" maybe they are but how do YOU know they are?

Noone can tell you what you are from numbers alone. Calculators are estimates, food labels in UK can be up to 20% off legally (mixed eggs ffs!!) Its not an X=Y=Z. But for some "legends" or "positive ones" it will be, genuinely and good for them. But energy balance remains key but Emily isn't Susan.

I wonder how many reduce cals and dont tell him. Fatt Dan is 213kg on 5000 cals and exercising but millie bobby brown at 47kg needs 2300 to maintain. I mean people still buy raspberry ketones. At that rate a 100kg man (16 stone) would be on 5000. Or maybe it was a lie.

Calories are ALL made equally (they dont all act in the body equally) but its a unit of measurement. That's it.

IF you could survive and just eat ginger nut biscuits in a calorie deficit you WILL lose weight. A few tik tokers mix this point together. Of course eating a giant chicken salad bowl versus a single donut will be more satieting (how do you say this again?!). But calories are built equal. If you ate the donut and held on its still valid.

Also you dont burn calories just like when you ate toast you didnt eat calories. You ate a series of micronutrients that came with a kilocalorie value. You burn glycogen, protein, fat. This is measured in calories. Just like having a fever you dont get hot via Celsius. But thats how we understand you're hot.

boring fact a calorie is the energy needed to raise a ml of water 1 degree. One degree what? Scales dont matter troll. No cold water or alkaline water wont help. Water will.

Like temperature. HOW you get hot matters but you're still measurably hot.

PS a tape measure utilises cm or inches this is a length scale. Saying scales are useless is properly numb.

Over 14 sites measured you only need to lose 0.07 cm to lose 1cm overall which is considered plan working.

If he just stayed with motivating ladies and adjusting for them...

Would you buy your children drugs on the Internet because a guy in his garage told you
 
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Dunno if I'm just a bit non tech savy but the end of thread 7 didn't give me a direct link to here. I had to search for it instead. Is that the same for everyone of am I missing something?
If you click at the top where it says ā€˜Dan wheeler threadsā€™ it brings up all the threads on him, just for future reference itā€™s quicker than searching x

Ok, number 50 here. I have to admit I am conflicted. Dan has caused a lot of pain to many people but I really struggle with the whole hate thing.

I donā€™t hate anyone. Personally, for me,this is just too strong. I genuinely wish him good health and happiness in the same way that I would wish anybody the same.
However, the narcissist just doesnā€™t learn. And, omg, there is so much pain.

Wishing him ill is not helpful.
have we forgot someone attempted suicide because of him? Someone else ended up in hospital because their mental health was destroyed by him?A pregnant lady (who he was very good friends with) was blocked without even a message when she found out she was pregnant.His friends said they wanted to watch Emma bleed out andwrote 8020 in her blood, as well as threatening to set her up as a pedalo. No one has ā€˜wishedā€™ him ill. But we donā€™t owe him any well wishes
 
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Good morning everyone, #1 checking in!

Seems I missed quite a bit last night - sorry, I was out getting some PROPA NUTRISHUN šŸ˜‚

So, it seems poor Dan cant tell the time, can't read the rules, cant add up numbers and can't run a business. Dont worry though guys and gals, hes the best in the world at what he does!

Complete and utter tit show, and he knows it. For someone with a supposed marketing background it's laughable. It screams utter desperation as he knows the ship is sinking.

I am so grateful for my fellow TCHQ friends- we called you out cos we saw right through you (eventually) - 80 members cant be wrong.

In the words of one of our own (I cant remember who, sorry)

#YouveBeenTattlered ā¤
 
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I am wondering happened to the competition winner , the person who won a day with DW did that ever happen ?
 
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