COVID-19 vaccine #6 and general vaccine conversation

[Purrrrrrr]

How is everyone feeling that’s chosen not to vaccinate, going into winter? I admit I’m anxious. My husband and son are vaccinated but don’t want the booster. I’m not vaccinated so my anxiety going into winter is rising. Especially seeing that story about the 37 year old pregnant woman dying from covid. I’m 42.

I hope everyone is doing ok and staying safe and well xx

I've not regretted my decision and the more time that goes on the better I feel about it. As I have mentioned I have a few lung problems plus autoimmune diseases I have been fine, had a cough and cold the week before last but it only lastest three days. I've not worn a mask or shielded other than at the very beginning.
Hope everything stays good for you.

I 100% expect vaccine passes to be put very quickly with no vote through parliament this winter. They won’t wait until the spring, people are less likely to protest on the streets when it’s frozen outside.

I think like Canada they will come unstuck if they try to push it. Way too many people would rather have no job and not travel than take this vaccine.
Protesters have been out and about since the start of covid in all weather. I think it's only a certain type of protest and protester that seems to be on only through the warmer mths

 

[Cupcakemum]

How is everyone feeling that’s chosen not to vaccinate, going into winter? I admit I’m anxious. My husband and son are vaccinated but don’t want the booster. I’m not vaccinated so my anxiety going into winter is rising. Especially seeing that story about the 37 year old pregnant woman dying from covid. I’m 42.

I hope everyone is doing ok and staying safe and well xx

Honestly, I have a small wobble every now and then, but then I think of all the double/triple vaccinated catching it around me while we're still ok, look at the stats for our age and give myself a reality check

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

How is everyone feeling that’s chosen not to vaccinate, going into winter? I admit I’m anxious. My husband and son are vaccinated but don’t want the booster. I’m not vaccinated so my anxiety going into winter is rising. Especially seeing that story about the 37 year old pregnant woman dying from covid. I’m 42.

I hope everyone is doing ok and staying safe and well xx

I must admit a had chesty cough the other week and it made me a little paranoid. But my wonderful immune system kicked into place and told it to bugga off. Thank god we have immune systems as I swear the MSM told us they don't exist anymore

 

[jackolantern]

How is everyone feeling that’s chosen not to vaccinate, going into winter? I admit I’m anxious. My husband and son are vaccinated but don’t want the booster. I’m not vaccinated so my anxiety going into winter is rising. Especially seeing that story about the 37 year old pregnant woman dying from covid. I’m 42.

I hope everyone is doing ok and staying safe and well xx

I always have a little worry in the back of my mind, but I have health anxiety so for me that is normal and tbh, is 10000% less than I worry about other conditions anyway. I’m pregnant now so I’m admittedly more concerned than before, but it still hasn’t changed my decision because ultimately - the vaccine concerns me more.

I also fail to believe I have somehow managed to avoid it for nearly 2 years, especially as I work in retail in a tourist location. As does my boyfriend (who worked the entire pandemic as well as his work is considered essential).

Stats are my greatest friend.

 

[ChineseAlan]

I've not regretted my decision and the more time that goes on the better I feel about it. As I have mentioned I have a few lung problems plus autoimmune diseases I have been fine, had a cough and cold the week before last but it only lastest three days. I've not worn a mask or shielded other than at the very beginning.
Hope everything stays good for you.



I think like Canada they will come unstuck if they try to push it. Way too many people would rather have no job and not travel than take this vaccine.
Protesters have been out and about since the start of covid in all weather. I think it's only a certain type of protest and protester that seems to be on only through the warmer mths

Glad you’re doing ok. I’m glad you’re all ok and I guess it’s normal for us to worry deep down. So many vaccinated catching it so I can’t see boosters doing much to be honest. I just hope one day soon covid is a thing of the past and we can relax properly. I can’t remember life before it right now.

 

[Motherofpugs]

I’m feeling happy with my decision still. We’ve had some awful coughs and colds over the last few months - no idea if any of them have been COVID as we’ve never tested ourselves (the idea of having a pcr really freaks me out & I don’t want to contribute to numbers that influence what restrictive measures are placed on our lives either). I’m sure we must have had it by now with a child in nursery and we’ve always been going out and mixing as normal. We’ve recovered fine from everything we’ve had over the last couples of years, whether it’s been COVID or not. I take Vitamin D, C, Zinc & elderberry which helps.

Having the vaccine would make me more anxious than having Covid. I don’t think I could ever take it for an easy life as I would always worry about the health implications it would have for me especially as someone with an autoimmune condition.

I am mostly worried about restrictions coming back and vaccine passports. I think they will happen but it won’t change my decision.

 

[Libbie]

I’m not worried at all, we’ve come this far unscathed, let’s carry on as we are. I’m against the ‘vaccine’ with every fibre of my being.
I had a very slight cold last week, 24 hours later it was gone, aren’t our immune systems a wonderful thing!

 

[monga]

BigBirds made the headlines

 

[HotMesss]

It passed through our house a few weeks ago. I'm unvaccinated, but my husband is double vaxxed. I wouldn't say I had it worse than him, the only difference really is that I got a chest infection that needed antibiotics and I still don't have my taste or smell back 3 weeks later. I did have some wobbles and anxiety, but it all came good in the end . The kids were fine, just a bit of a cold and off their food for a couple of days.

 

[KYLIE]

A friend of my mums is vaccinated and had the booster. She is now in the high dependency unit for covid.

Two vaccines AND a booster … and for what? What do they do? She’s literally in a high decency unit after having a booster jab a couple weeks prior!!!

The whole thing is insane! These vaccines don’t work! People are DYING from them when they would never die of Covid, young, fit healthy people in wheelchairs or worse. I just can’t wrap my head around the publics acceptance of this. It reminds me of those social experiments to see how much people will passively take and accept if everyone around them if also just taking it.

I’m most concerned about the air travel ban for unvaccinated people. I will literally never see my family again if that isn’t let up but I don’t want this “vaccine”.

We have bent the knee to this tyranny and it doesn’t look like it’s coming to an end anytime soon.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

 

[Doctor_Wibble]

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A reply to that tweet suggests that Delingpole would do well to learn German or at the very least, fire his translator.

 

[monga]

Germans keen to mandate vaccines for all adults

At this rate big birds going to be hoping it ends up as thanksgiving dinner

 

[Purrrrrrr]

A reply to that tweet suggests that Delingpole would do well to learn German or at the very least, fire his translator.

Oh, he forgot to add 75 "serious illnesses" and death. how like you and the others to look through things in minute detail to prove us wrong but when it comes to the deaths and serious illnesses *Crickets*

 

[Doctor_Wibble]

Oh, he forgot to add 75 "serious illnesses" and death. how like you and the others to look through things in minute detail to prove us wrong but when it comes to the deaths and serious illnesses *Crickets*

Who's "us"? It was a criticism of him, not you or anyone else here.
Someone claimed something that sounded serious and I wanted to know what was behind it.
If there is any criticism it's the posting of screen grabs of stuff like that but without the courtesy of a link to it.

I went to the tweet and read a few of the replies. There was no looking through anything in detail, it was right there on the page.

 

[MensaBarbie1985]

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I have been quite vocal on here in the past about my opinions but I want to make this objective and say I haven't read each of these reports and so it is possible that some/several/I don't know were related to the vaccine and have been confirmed as such by medical professionals. As stated before I do accept that some people have died because of it but I was only aware of a very small number in the media, etc.

However one of the stories towards the top of the linked article is about a footballer who has died suddenly and whose cause of death has not been confirmed. But the story then releases statements from his old club including 'it's ok not to be ok' and 'talking doesn't make you any less of a man'. As far as I'm concerned there is only one conclusion that can be drawn from that and it's not that it was due to the vaccine.

I've done a lot of research into sudden cardiac death in adults as it actually happened in my close family; sadly young fit athletes have always been prone to this due to conditions such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy; this has happened disproportionately long before Covid

 

[cill2019]

@ChineseAlan i tried to quote your post but it didn’t let me
I will admit I have my wobbles especially last week when my sons school bubble burst for the first time I have told my folks we won’t be over to Scotland for Christmas because cases are going up so much in their area. I do believe we all had covid though before it was a thing. We were all incredibly poorly in December19/ January20, my partner was the sickest I’ve seen him in 13 years together and my son was on medication for his asthma but that was before it hit the uk and wasn’t being tested for but it can’t be coincidence. In fact I know an awful lot of people who were sick at this time and have not officially had covid. I’m a believer in natural immunity. Maybe it’ll bite me in my plus sized ass I’m just happy at the moment to keep doing what I’m doing.
To be honest my biggest concern at the moment is my toddler who isn’t talking yet due to lack of socialisation with his peers due to lockdowns and restrictions

 

[Cupcakemum]

Vaccines will be mandatory for nhs staff by spring

Covid jab to be compulsory for England's NHS staff - BBC News

Frontline staff will have until April to get vaccinated to protect patients, the health secretary says.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

110,000 staff could potentially leave and that number could go up because vaccinated means boosters and all jabs after that.

I heard the argument that as patients are catching covid in hospital then it will help that.
There's no logic in that argument at all, because the vaccinated can pass it to the vaccinated, so they're all catching it off each other while in a closed setting.

It's estimated that care staff that will be made to leave on Thursday has gone up to 60,000 now.

But its all about your health

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Vaccines will be mandatory for nhs staff by spring

Covid jab to be compulsory for England's NHS staff - BBC News

Frontline staff will have until April to get vaccinated to protect patients, the health secretary says.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

110,000 staff could potentially leave and that number could go up because vaccinated means boosters and all jabs after that.

I heard the argument that as patients are catching covid in hospital then it will help that.
There's no logic in that argument at all, because the vaccinated can pass it to the vaccinated, so they're all catching it off each other while in a closed setting.

It's estimated that care staff that will be made to leave on Thursday has gone up to 60,000 now.

But its all about your health

Another thing to push the NHS into further crises so they can push for privatisation, its being destroyed from every corner in anyway they can

There is no medical staff shortage as there are plenty who would go back if the conditions were right , same with drivers etc

 

[MensaBarbie1985]

Vaccines will be mandatory for nhs staff by spring

Covid jab to be compulsory for England's NHS staff - BBC News

Frontline staff will have until April to get vaccinated to protect patients, the health secretary says.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

110,000 staff could potentially leave and that number could go up because vaccinated means boosters and all jabs after that.

I heard the argument that as patients are catching covid in hospital then it will help that.
There's no logic in that argument at all, because the vaccinated can pass it to the vaccinated, so they're all catching it off each other while in a closed setting.

It's estimated that care staff that will be made to leave on Thursday has gone up to 60,000 now.

But its all about your health

It's not just about transmission (although there are many research articles which show that vaccination does reduce transmission but the % of this does seem to vary)

People who are unvaccinated are more likely to become serious ill with Covid, require hospitalisation, and have long-Covid symptoms, all which would impact on their ability to work. The NHS has been under-staffed for many years as we well know but when there are many staff off sick this will obviously have a further impact on patient care. I work in the NHS and have seen the pressures our clinical teams faced especially towards the end of last year without staff, with some being placed in business continuity (it's mental health so not related to usual winter pressures). Staff now are more likely to stay in work (obviously not if they're positive) which eases the strain on resources