COVID-19 vaccine #23 & general vaccine conversation

[Poddular]

Both my parents have got tinnitus post vaccine.
I was reading a thread the other day and quite a few people mentioned they had tinnitus.
To balance I had it after covid but it has more or less gone now. Touch wood.

 

[rainbowlemon]

They reported on it in 2022

Is tinnitus a rare side effect of Covid vaccines?

A renowned vaccine expert developed life-altering ringing in his ears after his second shot. Now he's calling for research into a possible link.

www.nbcnews.com

Happened to a doctor:

"And Poland's tale might not carry much weight if he weren't Dr. Gregory Poland — a globally respected physician who has dedicated his career to vaccine study and development as founder and director of the Mayo Clinic's Vaccine Research Group in Rochester, Minnesota. "
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More of the #science needed obviously.

 

[rainbowlemon]

Definitely all the conspiracy theorists have lached onto it and brought up vaccines and covid so only have themselves to blame for talking conspiracy theories!

Goes back to the question- does every person convicted of #wrongthink ( these pesky conspiracy theorists) think exactly the same thing and the same way despite our varying life experiences?

I refused to get the covid vaccine, but I personally didn't even care about the alert. I'm not sat quaking in fear with my brick Nokia I've kept because it still works. I'm not fussed about nuclear attacks from Russia either.
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Was the Johnson's and Johnson's Talc causes cancer not a conspiracy theory for 40 years just because the company denied it ?
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I’ve also seen the 15 minute cities nonsense trotted out, along with the alarm triggering the microchip that was implanted with the vaccine.

I don't believe there is a microchip in the vaccine either.

HOWEVER "The full quantitative composition of each COVID-19 vaccine is exempt under Section 41* and Section 43* of the FOI Act."
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If you have a peanut allergy would you not want to know what was in your chocolate bar?

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Looks safe to me. Anyway as you were comrades.

I have to go and pray for the health of my beloved leader.

 

[Deeznutslol]

Goes back to the question- does every person convicted of #wrongthink ( these pesky conspiracy theorists) think exactly the same thing and the same way despite our varying life experiences?

I refused to get the covid vaccine, but I personally didn't even care about the alert. I'm not sat quaking in fear with my brick Nokia I've kept because it still works. I'm not fussed about nuclear attacks from Russia either.
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Was the Johnson's and Johnson's Talc causes cancer not a conspiracy theory for 40 years just because the company denied it ?
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I don't believe there is a microchip in the vaccine either.

HOWEVER "The full quantitative composition of each COVID-19 vaccine is exempt under Section 41* and Section 43* of the FOI Act."
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If you have a peanut allergy would you not want to know what was in your chocolate bar?

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Looks safe to me. Anyway as you were comrades.

I have to go and pray for the health of my beloved leader.

If you have a peanut allergy would you not want to know what was in your chocolate bar?

But we do know the ingredients of the Pfizer vaccine? It’s what you’ve literally just posted? The thing we don’t know is the quantities. The reason why the FOI wasn’t approved was because the MHRA considered that there was no public interest argument which outweighed the commercial harm whereby the information be used by competitors to inform their own product development and overcome regulatory hurdles.
Every single one of the excipients listed there is considered safe and is approved for use in human medicines. How can you claim to be a doctor and say that you don’t think that things like sucrose, potassium chloride and sodium chloride are safe? Sorry but this is just fear mongering.

Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech

www.gov.uk

 

[Piff paff puff]

can you claim to be a doctor and say that you don’t think that things like sucrose, potassium chloride and sodium chloride are safe? Sorry but this is just fear mongering.

They didn't say they were a Dr did they? And they can say those things as they're stated as an opinion.
An opposing opinion isn't fear mongering. People expect to hear all opinions on a forum.

 

[Deeznutslol]

They didn't say they were a Dr did they? And they can say those things as they're stated as an opinion.
An opposing opinion isn't fear mongering. People expect to hear all opinions on a forum.

They told me that they were yesterday , which is why I’m asking why a doctor thinks that sucrose is an unsafe ingredient. It is fear mongering if you’re suggesting that a group of inert excipients which are commonly used in medicines and vaccines are somehow unsafe. Just because you don’t know what they are, doesn’t mean that they’re dangerous.

 

[rainbowlemon]

But we do know the ingredients of the Pfizer vaccine? It’s what you’ve literally just posted? The thing we don’t know is the quantities. The reason why the FOI wasn’t approved was because the MHRA considered that there was no public interest argument which outweighed the commercial harm whereby the information be used by competitors to inform their own product development and overcome regulatory hurdles.
Every single one of the excipients listed there is considered safe and is approved for use in human medicines. How can you claim to be a doctor and say that you don’t think that things like sucrose, potassium chloride and sodium chloride are safe? Sorry but this is just fear mongering.

Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech

www.gov.uk

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That's the MHRA's public assessment report for Pfizer's BNT162b2.
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According to Pfizer purchase agreement, the modRNA acceptance criteria is 50% integrity.

 

[Mbouzer]

The “spring boosters” have started, seen they are using a new vaccine by the brand Sanofi, different technology to mRNA, another mixy matchy for people. So one person could have had (up to now) 6 vaccines from different brands using different technology from one another. How that is good for you ill never know. Not to mention how you could even keep track of the side effects after having a pick n mix.

Sanofi vaccine: what to know about this protein-based COVID booster being offered in the UK

A vaccine produced by Sanofi is being given as part of the 2023 spring booster campaign. An immunology expert explains how it works.

www.gavi.org

 

[rainbowlemon]

Novel ionisable cationic lipid ALC-0315 conveys a positive charge to deliver the genetic cargo to the cytosol. Until COVID, cationic lipids were too toxic to use.

Tetrahydrofuran, is also a suspected carcinogenic agent according to the European Chemicals Agency and is a residual solvent of ALC-0159. We don't know the purity of ALC-0159, so how do we know how many other suspected carcinogens make their way into the final product?

With the water for injection Its weight is given as “proprietary” in the Safety Data Sheet. A 2021 recall notice on manufactured by Hospira, (a Pfizer subsidiary,) details a “visible particulate” found that could cause “pulmonary emboli, and infarction.”

I have never said I am a vaccine expert.
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As for fear mongering- your anger is displaced at the wrong person :

Psychologists slam Government's 'unethical' Covid scare tactics

40 psychologists co-signed a letter to the Government warning of 'grossly unethical' adverts used during the pandemic that used slogans like: If you go out and spread it, people will die'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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I'm also sorry India demanded their own safety tests before allowing Pfizer into their county.

Pfizer drops India vaccine application after regulator seeks local trial

Pfizer Inc said on Friday it had withdrawn an application for emergency-use authorisation of its COVID-19 vaccine in India, after failing to meet the drug regulator's demand for a local safety and immunogenicity study.

www.reuters.com

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*country
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Unlike the west maybe they don't have such short memories and remember being tested on the the white saviours.
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*Sorry I can't edit my posts it should read : by the
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Maybe Brooke is aslo lying:


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Personally I'm also just here to laugh at the clowns from afar.
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Also with a 50% integrity accepted rate- how much double stranded RNA is residual due to contamination with plasmid/template DNA? How much aberrant protein is expressed?
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Remain calm.

Trust the #science.

#Safeandeffective.


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Why and how has the vaccine been found in breast milk?
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On a side note: as a pharmacy student do you feel you would know more then virologists like Jesse Bloom who did not think the origin of covid was natural?
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Controversial: Honestly I did like the earlier conversations with Prefrontal it felt like a conversation. We could both admit when we were wrong and she didn't resort to mocking either.

 

[rainbowlemon]

Also whilst sucrose, potassium chloride and sodium chloride might be okay, you also on have no idea what the other boxes in the table even are unless you have greater all seeing powers even Sauron himself would be proud of.

Don't hold me to a much higher standard then the one you would hold for yourself. If you are this triggered by my posts feel free to add me to ignore.

 

[Piff paff puff]

Also whilst sucrose, potassium chloride and sodium chloride might be okay, you also on have no idea what the other boxes in the table even are unless you have greater all seeing powers even Sauron himself would be proud of.

Don't hold me to a much higher standard then the one you would hold for yourself. If you are this triggered by my posts feel free to add me to ignore.

Exactly. It's an absolute joke, most of the ingredients missing. Why? Not because some other scientist is going to steal your secret ingredients, this ain't coca cola

 

[rainbowlemon]

Exactly. It's an absolute joke, most of the ingredients missing. Why? Not because some other scientist is going to steal your secret ingredients, this ain't coca cola

Comrade Piff Paff they are all there. It is YOU who is mistaken and must not be seeing or even remembering correctly.

I could understand with Coke though. Their gross profit in 2020 was only $19.581B.

I generally don't drink Coca cola or fizzy drinks. Can't even remember the last time that I did. Am I an anti-cola 'er too because I don't want that all of that sugar?

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

Comrade Piff Paff they are all there. It is YOU who is mistaken and must not be seeing or even remembering correctly.

I could understand with Coke though. Their gross profit in 2020 was only $19.581B.

I generally don't drink Coca cola or fizzy drinks. Can't even remember the last time that I did. Am I an anti-cola 'er too because I don't want that all of that sugar?

I feel like coke has never been good for you but all of the so called “sugar free” stuff is much much worse. Apparently Pepsi are going to get rid of their full sugar products and replace them with artificial sweeteners. 1. I hate being told what I’m “allowed” to drink and 2. Artificial sweeteners are way way worse for you than sugar. Once again it’s all designed to make us more and more unhealthy.

 

[Piff paff puff]

I generally don't drink Coca cola or fizzy drinks. Can't even remember the last time that I did. Am I an anti-cola 'er too because I don't want that all of that sugar?

Same. They're all shite
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I feel like coke has never been good for you but all of the so called “sugar free” stuff is much much worse. Apparently Pepsi are going to get rid of their full sugar products and replace them with artificial sweeteners. 1. I hate being told what I’m “allowed” to drink and 2. Artificial sweeteners are way way worse for you than sugar. Once again it’s all designed to make us more and more unhealthy.

Yes! Rather have sugar occasionally than sweeteners. Some are banned in other countries.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

Same. They're all shite

See I do like a full fat coke every now again, especially during pregnancy! But I don’t drink or smoke so I figure I’m allowed one vice

 

[monga]

And still they rolled it out ,remember March 2021 was when VITT was first discovered… What happens to those on means tested benefits if they get a payout? Will they lose out on certain benefits? Essentially cancelling the payout

The heartbroken COVID vaccine victims who feel ‘abandoned’

Two years have passed since Kam Miller lost her husband Neil — and the shock at what happened is still audible in her voice.

www.perthnow.com.au

 

[daydreamer95]

They told me that they were yesterday , which is why I’m asking why a doctor thinks that sucrose is an unsafe ingredient. It is fear mongering if you’re suggesting that a group of inert excipients which are commonly used in medicines and vaccines are somehow unsafe. Just because you don’t know what they are, doesn’t mean that they’re dangerous.

If the person was a specialist with years of education / experience and they expressed an even slightly negative opinion on CV you would class them as anti vaxx ct to dismiss them so why ask anything in the first place that’s not a question that needs answering if it’s not obvious

 

[Piff paff puff]

Just because you don’t know what they are, doesn’t mean that they’re dangerous.

And this
doesn't make them safe either.

 

[E84Blair]

There’s people who say they believe in choice when it comes to terminating human life but they don’t extend this same autonomy to rejecting CV even under emergency use

So easily dismissive labelling people anti vaxx and conspiracy theorists even going as far as saying most have homophobia are racist antiemetic

Gotta say I was amused when Justin bootpolish Trudeau called people who refused the Covid vaccine "racist".

But I guess it takes one to know one.

Healthy people did die as a result of Covid-19 infection.

People with underlying health conditions (who would have lived for many years) died as a result of Covid-19 infection.

Many people have been left with long term complications (long Covid) post Covid-19 infection.

Worldwide the number of people who have died from Covid-19 is a lot higher than what it currently due to countries under reporting, not reporting at all or the way stats are counted/lack of.

But how many people do YOU know who died? Like you personally. NOT what the media REPORT - actual healthy humans YOU KNOW?? OR even know OF.

Because the media LIE. The establishment LIE.
What is your LIVED experience of Covid?
Like, what are the facts you KNOW? What do you know FROM REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE - I.E. What you HAVEN'T been told by the media or government or random people on gossip websites? Can you trust yourself to look around and make a judgment based only on what you know (as in, NOT anything faceless corporations peddle)?

Besides, this isn't about who died of covid. It's about how many are dropping dead right now from the vaccine, and how many have suffered awful side-effects. The fact that Covid turned out to be not that fatal in the end all seems quite irrelevant now.

 

[rainbowlemon]

"Just because you don’t know what they are, doesn’t mean that they’re dangerous."

Does anyone else remember the "Talk to Frank" campaigns?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=talk+to+frank+drug+advert

No harm in also taking that packet from the geezer outside the nightclub then by your logic.
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Also Dr Poland who was warning of the tinutus link was a consultant for the Johnson vax, so clearly actual experience even in vaccine research wouldn't matter.