Conspiracy Theories #7

[Bellaboo83]

They will continue as long as people keep buying into them. There is no valid reason why a government would give up so much control over the population.

Once enough people become fed up and choose to go back to normal, ignore rules and restrictions, things will change for the better as it will be harder for them to peddle the narrative, after all they only have the power we give them.

I agree, the stats for my area are as follows...

Deaths per day (of people who have had a positive test in 28 days prior to death) 2

Deaths in the last month (pos test in last 28 days as above) 22

A lot of these will have passed from something else and just be included because they had the test in the previous 28 days don't forget!

Total number admitted to hospital in last 24 hrs (we have 4 large hospitals in the area) = 18 and that number has been steady for the last 4 weeks

Why the hell am I under house arrest for those figures!!!!! How can they justify that?

 

[Moira Rose]

I've been convinced my auntie is one of the large contributors to this thread so I've been trying to stalk their post history to see if anything could give her away

 

[Chickenandgravy]

Saw this today....not sure how true but utterly horrifying if so I'm pregnant so have an excuse NOT to get it but even if I wasn't I still wouldn't be!

 

[Jbf]

Shock - WEF in support of the vaccine passport Israel model




And there we have it! "Ensure that the scheme does not penalise those who cannot be vaccinated for health reasons." No other reasons though. They’ll just include an option for that minority and the rest of us will need to vax for our freedom pass. So that's that question answered

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NHS app to be converted for vaccine passports

The NHS app will become a digital Covid certificate allowing people to use their phone to prove they have been vaccinated or have tested negative.Downing Stre

www.thetimes.co.uk

I checked the NHS stats for my area. 10 positive cases in an area of over 18,000 which is 0.055555555555556%

I've been pondering. So for those who cannot have the vaccine .... they will be fine to mingle around society but for those who CHOOSE to not have the vaccine - they will be virus spreaders and seen as to be a threat to society? I am curious of the difference of treatment I see towards one group and another and that we will see going forward. People have their reasons for not wanting a vaccine but I wouldn't have said this automatically makes you more infectious then those who technically cannot have the vaccine for whatever reason? Surely the people who have had the vaccine should not be worried about either as their chances are now very minor in any case? I find it all so bizzare!

I love my fellow humans but i also love my own body and and that isn't me saying i won't protect my fellow human. I don't eat animals, i don't support animal cruelty, I raise money for charity, donate to food banks, litter pick, recycle, care for the planet and *most* people on it (shucks i even have love for my exes though most were douchebags) but I don't automatically turn into a selfish virus spreader if i decide i don't want to have a vaccine injected in to me.

If i am not 'allowed' to participate in society then so be it. I am not sick. I don't have the virus. I am a danger to nobody. Ridiculous.

 

[Cupcakemum]

God who'd be rushing out to vacc their kids ,different a consenting adult but if anything happened your child you'd never forgive yourself .

Its already happening. Parents are volunteering their kids as young as 6 to be tested on!
I can see how kids of maybe 12 and above can make an informed decision, but any younger than that and anything that happens is on your head as a parent. Although I'd still blame myself even if my 16yr old begged me to do it!

Why these children are taking part in first Covid vaccine trial for kids | ITV News

Children as young as six have begun to receive the Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine as part of a trial to test the jab's efficacy in youngsters. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

Next on the list is newborns

Covid vaccine trials could soon begin on 'newborn babies and pregnant women'

Hanneke Schuitemaker, head of viral vaccines at Johnson and Johnson's Janssen firm, said newborn babies will be tested "at a certain point if all goes well", with trials on children due in the coming weeks

www-mirror-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

And I think this is the one that scares me. Pfizer have recruited pregnant women to take the trial. It's a drug that we have no idea what the long term effects are. Just because you carry to term and everything appears ok, what's to say that your baby will still be ok in 10yrs

Pfizer to begin Covid vaccine clinical trial in pregnant women

The drugmaker aims to enroll 4,000 expectant mothers.

www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[chanandlerbong]

People are now so giddy with the road map out of lockdown that I think it'll be even easier for the powers that be to bring out the passport / mandatory as now people are already excited for what they have seen may be coming and nothing will get in the way of it.

Quite a few people I have spoken too will be getting the vaccine but interestingly not a single one mentioned it for health.... Each one said for freedom

It's honestly making me sick. He's made one statement about normal life in JULY at the EARLIEST and people are losing their minds with excitement. What about the 5 months until then????? We've vaccinated a 1/3 of the population already!!

I'm completely baffled about what there is to be excited about? We have at least 3 more months (so, a month longer than this year so far) until we can sit inside at a restaurant, café or pub, but still rule of 6. 2 more months until we can sit outside at a restaurant, café or pub, but still rule of 6. 1 more month until we can play golf for god sake. And can I please remind everyone that these are the earliest possible dates. Everyone is high on hopium and ignoring that inconvenient fact


Any parents on Twitter give this a like if you would contribute



Evidence that everything they say is total and utter bollocks

 

[Oohthedrama]

Can I ask why you won't take it? You obviously don't have to answer if it's personal

happy to answer, right now (as far as I know) I won’t be offered it. as I’m not in the age bracket (especially in the ROI where rollout is slow)

I do have a medical history that makes me unwilling to accept anything into my body without knowing what I’m taking, as I’ve been very unwell in the past and treated with no say in the matter (unable to consent) but after this period I was given the wrong drugs orally that were supposed to be for a patient who was on the same ward, I was clearly fine, it’s many years ago now but I’ve never been great at accepting treatment when needed as it is so for me, that didn’t help a new drug like this does give me anxiety,
I don’t take so much as a lick of kids calpol when I’m in pain (and that’s good shit ) so it’s not an unusual response from me,
No IF I was told I needed to take it to protect my family, I’m almost certain I will, but right now all are well (touch wood) so I won’t be accepting anything like this in order to go to a pub or on holidays, to me that’s insanity.

I will also say I’m following guidelines...

but I haven’t stopped seeing my family,
I made that choice and nobody will tell me I’m breaking the law by doing so. I’d rather throw myself over a cliff than accept that, I’m sensible, I’m not telling others what they should or shouldn’t do, I’m putting nobody in danger, and all my choices will be made taking into account what’s best for me and my family, no government will have power over that.

sorry that was long

I saw an excellent video on the moon landing conspiracy. I'll have to see if I can find it because I literally laughed out loud when someone from NASA said "we can't go to the moon again because we lost the information on how to get there"

I enjoy a good argument about the moon landing

 

[DreamDolly]

Ive been trying to have a covid break but i had call from gp yest to arrange my jab for tomorrow (im fat so in fat bmi range). I said i dont want it yet as i have allergies. When i looked up ingredients of astra jab theres something in it called polysorbate 80 and it is sometimes in food and i thgt it sounds harmless til i read on further sounds very scary what it can cause! Part of me is really against the jab but me and my 18yr old son havent been in any building since early march and im worried what its doing to him mentally. But as @DreamDolly has said about her mum has still been told to shield. My cousin husband had pfizer jab two weeks ago and was ok no side effects but he had a colonoscopy few days after the jab as something was picked up from poo test. He had a scan yesterday and apparently he is now feeling really ill and my cousin is really worried about him. Not sure if its linked to jab but hes normally well and only 70.

Oh, Samantha, I’m so sorry to hear that you and your son have been having a tough time lately. And I do understand that you want to get back to normal life as soon as you can, and like my mum, was under the impression that having the jab is the magic key that will open up the door to normal life. Except it doesn’t...
This is why I get so bloody angry with the government!! They’ve basically dangled a carrot in front of these people, who are desperate (like everyone) to get their lives back. It’s so unfair.
Whether you get vaccinated or not is only something you can decide. It’s not for anyone here to push you one way or another. But, whenever you want to chat (about anything!!) there is always someone here to chat to. I also hope that your Cousin’s husband is feeling better soon XX

 

[monga]

I think this is very sad for this mans family I know I wouldn’t like it

 

[Pixipoppy]

According to our first minister a third wave is “already baked in” whatever the fuck that means. And that we will have curbs on our freedoms for the rest of the year. He has said anything less is “fanciful”. I’m parking myself here now guys. I am officially sceptical If we can’t open up when we have all had the vaccine, then what is it going to take exactly?! What are they hoping for?! I really hope people start protesting this and fighting for their freedoms.

 

[Robrossi]

It doesn’t really matter if your kid is fine or not , you are meant to isolate so as not to go around spreading it and infecting others

Jeez , no wonder we are in this mess

it wasn’t our kid who tested positive, we live thousands of miles away from elderly family members so aren’t mixing with them, and funnily enough everyone we mixed with is still alive!

Why not focus on people who are actually ill, not kids who are forced to isolate as a result of one child in the class having a positive PCR test, which isn’t reliable anyway. Of course if my kid was genuinely sick we would stay at home (you know, like we used to). Also at our school even if one child has to isolate, if you have a second kid attending they’re still allowed to go - it makes zero sense.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

New to this thread, so not sure if I'm welcome as I usually just lurk but I needed to rant
Infections halving every 14 days, deaths coming down yet STILL we are told restrictions need to remain in place.
The NHS has not been overwhelmed and we are coming into warmer months yet still people seem to find it absolutely ok for them to keep us locked up and businesses shut. I really do despair at what this country will look like in a few months time. I have a 14 month old and I am literally terrified at the kind of world she will grow up in.
HOW are we allowing this to happen, WHY are we not more outraged. If we aren't careful this country will be an absolute mess in 6 months time.

Just grinds my gears.
I'm not a Covid-denier but I am aghast at how much we seem to be sleepwalking into an Orwellian nightmare for something which is never going to go away and we have to learn to live with it.

To be honest I think when it gets to spring there's going to be big riots. It's brewing now but apparently the British don't do rioting in colder months .

 

[Georgethecat]

Has anyone heard the theory about Jill Dando's death? The theory is that she was about to expose something, I think paedophilia and was silenced.

Yes I've heard that, more recently I thought it might have been something to do with the bbc and Jimmy savile. Her boyfriend was the only one who knew where she was, he's apparently the gynaecologist to the queen now and delivered maddie McCann by c section for Kate and Gerry. Strange connections , I'd love to know more.

 

[Yoghurtpots]

I follow Brian and feel he is in crises at the moment. I might be wrong as don't watch all his stuff. But most of his videos are him ranting all night, it's not unusual for him to do 3 or 4 vids a night. I wish he could just relax and explain in simple terms what is going on. I have to wonder why every single friend he had is now a sworn enemy. He now says Jon Wedger is part of the corruption and out to get him. Jon lost everything as a whistleblower and everything I watch of his he is always helping others come to terms with or exposing their abuse.

I really don't know what to think about Brian anymore, one thing that does make me go Hmmm is how comes Brian's channel is still there, everyone else who seems to speak out about "truth" has been shut down and had to move to other platforms.

Ok so after a solid 5 hours on this, my take on it is that in the early 90s Daniella Westbrook took Brian to a nightclub called Browns, within that he got taken to a "Red Room"(a place of torture, death and paedophilia that is usually interactive on the dark web and gets filmed), in that room were some very powerful, recognisable people and a young girl dolled up in suspenders and a young boy. He didn't witness any sex but was aware something wasn't right. Daniella said she had to sell her house and many other things to stop them coming after Brian. He has started to speak out and regularly has police at his door "for welfare checks". That is the thing that is scary to me. Seems very Isaac Kappy. As well as smear campaigns within the media. It seems to me like he is saying that he won't say who he saw in the room (although he did mention Ghislaine Maxwell) but will expose the seedy elite and Red Rooms. Everything he says he seems to be able to back up and it doesn't seem that far fetched to me.. at all.

 

[chanandlerbong]

I've seen even the most minor criticisms of the government's COVID response prefaced with "I'm not a CT but..." or "sorry this belongs on the CT thread but..." Like what? Our lives have literally been ruined by this bullshit, you are allowed to question it. Especially when we've been at it for a year to apparently no avail but other countries are completely back to normal. Something's clearly not adding up.

I don't know anyone that is actually strictly following the rules, but almost all scoff at the idea of protesting. But if you're not following them, clearly you don't agree with them nor the fact that the government have taken our civil liberties to enforce them in the first place..? The government have literally hit the jackpot - they can get away with anything because it seems completely taboo here to think your government would be out to harm or work against you?

Someone previously posted saying those predictions for what will happen come autumn were depressing but imagine someone had laid out the ending of 2020 for you in advance - Halloween cancelled, Christmas cancelled, etc we don't need to rehash. Everyone would have said "there will be riots!" but honestly I think they'll be back on their bullshit come October and we'll take it in our stride, they'll ruin more businesses and we'll say "it's just another X months, don't be selfish". People were celebrating being told lockdown ends 5 months from now at the earliest When exactly did they expect it to end? Next March? Never?

We are an incredibly obedient, patient and trusting lot (embarrassingly so) and that's the problem! I dunno how anyone can think otherwise

 

[chanandlerbong]

They will continue as long as people keep buying into them. There is no valid reason why a government would give up so much control over the population.

Once enough people become fed up and choose to go back to normal, ignore rules and restrictions, things will change for the better as it will be harder for them to peddle the narrative, after all they only have the power we give them.

Especially when it enriches them to the tune of millions. The magic money tree is in full bloom and the cheque book ripped up. They have carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they want with our money including funnelling it to themselves and their friends and family through ridiculous projects like the 40 COVID clinics or £100b on Operation Moonshot. Why would they wanna give that up?

Also, these people would literally sell their nan to climb the political ladder. The absolute power they’ve been granted is probably their wet dream. The power, the attention, having a desperate population hanging off their every word. Tbh whilst we’re in hell I think they’re loving it and have very little incentive to bring this to an end

 

[Girldemsugar89]

I know it's becoming so transparent now that we're predicting them. People have been conned into the vaccine on the promise of freedom. Now they're hinting they won't be allowed until we all have it. So people turn on each other. He should be locked up. You sound pretty intelligent to me and the most important thing is to listen to our instincts I think. Listen to what your gut tells you. I have a brilliant book somewhere all about your intuition. I will try and find out the title.

My instincts tell me im being gas lit with this road map. I'm on the fence as to what is actually going on but I will say it's blatantly obvious that the Tories are looking after the rich and their doners at the expense of the working class. Profiting out of a pandemic is morally wrong on so many levels.

 

[ipiraka]

Fearful of the future, the vaccine passport is an entrance into creating a whole database and all sorts of other horrible dystopian things.
Israelis are unhappy because they’ve forced the vaccine on almost everyone and are using them as test bunnies, UK is heading under the same route

 

[Purrrrrrr]

But will ever know the extent of lockdown suicides? It won't be discussed on the news, only ever covid deaths and covid cases.

The real cost to lives will never be known, 24-hour fearporn on the TV and radio destroying peoples mental health.
All those businesses shutting down, homes lost so more homeless. more marriages breaking down. I know 4 strong relationships that have gone down the pan. One of those was a 45-year marriage and my friend killed herself over it ending.
My daughter's relationship ( three children) ended, my carer's marriage ( two children) ended, another friend 25 years married ( emergency foster parents with three of their own children) ended.

What's the cost to this generation of children? scared they will kill granny, scared of germs, mostly stuck home with parents who might not be coping very well.
When I think of my own life with abusive parents and then abusive partners I feel absolute fear for those kids and people stuck at home with an abuser(s)

 

[Annieanne]

Had a reply to
my recent email to Bel Mooney. Apparently femail online have been inundated by members of the public giving evidence of relatives falsely having covid as the cause of death. Not a surprise as we knew they were inflating the figures to persuade us into taking the vaccine. Please if you're taking this vaccine because you truly believe it's safe then go ahead. But if you're just taking it so you can go on holiday this year, I'd call that madness.
Also I just spoke to a friend whose mother had the Pfizer experimental vac two weeks ago. Suddenly at weekend she started feeling quite poorly. The doctor gave her a covid test. My friend asked if I thought the doctors are being paid extra for tests. She's very worried.
Well I suppose now we know they're falsifying death certificates and not sacking the guilty Matt Hancock then anything is possible. These are no longer theories folks these are Facts!!

Incidentally, on the Bel Mooney article over 7000 people agreed with the best rated comment. It was someone saying the same thing had happened with their relative.