Conspiracy Theories #7

[Cupcakemum]

Did anyone watch the max Clifford documentary last night? I swear there's loads more to that story than we'll ever know. I feel like peodophilia runs way deep in the entertainment industry (even in this country).

Definitely! And don't forget how many clients he has protected with the power her has and injunctions. Its deep rooted in the celebrity and political world! I sometimes wonder if the ones that are quite private, or the ones that move away are the ones who are keeping a distance from it all and are least involved.
I know that sounds backwards, but it means they're then not mixing in sinister circles because they know what's going on. It still makes them complicit in my opinion as they know what's going on, but care more about their careers and money to speak out

im not sure what your point is, if you die from cancer with covid , then yea it is a secondary cause on a death certificate , however if covid is the main reeason for death ,, it goes as primarty cause

and yes you said NO KNOWN underlying conditions , nobody knows until post mortems are carried out
ive cared for a lot that i thought with physically well and then its not until i attend coroners hearings , autopsises have shown otherwise

Its not a case of primary or secondary cause. If covid is on the death certificate then they're counted as a covid death.
That was Purrrrs point - regardless on comorbitities, if you test positive for covid you're counted as covid.
Same person dies after jab and its the comorbitity that killed them

 

[Blade Runner]

just to clarify there has been no vaccine deaths.
in my nhs job, i study all side effects from the vaccines and submit them to PHE so im aware that there is no deaths in the UK related to the vaccine
so it was either a coincidence that she passed away so soon after the job and no1 can say for certain that people are healthy without a post-mortem



is this liz evans really a credible source? ive been wearing masks for 12 years and nobody on my staffing has ever had issues with these. if this was really an issue, nhs would not be wearing these for the last 20/30 years

There’s an interesting and informative letter from Dr. Carla Peeters to the BMJ You May find it helpful.

 

[Northeast1988]

NHS never wore masks all day every day, surgeons wore them for a longer time but different masks in a room that has 25 air changes per hour.

Wearing a mask all day for work is new and as yet the risk unknown.

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis

Many countries across the globe utilized medical and non-medical facemasks as non-pharmaceutical intervention for reducing the transmission and infectivity of coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19). Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Then we have the crappy homemade masks where any fabric is good as long as its "lovely"
Many fabrics are well-known carcinogenic and that's without them being worn over the mouth and nose and breathing in lose fibres

7 toxic chemicals hiding in your waterproof, stain-resistant, and wrinkle-free clothes

Many clothing items, such as blue jeans, also carry a dye that can release cancer-causing chemicals.

www.businessinsider.com

Awww give over saying nhs don’t wear masks every day
I started off as a theatre scrub nurse and yes we do wear masks for surgery
You really wanting nurse breathing over open wounds
Give me a break jeez

 

[Yoghurtpots]

To say there are no deaths is a complete lie.

 

[Blade Runner]

This video is a must watch. Not sure if it has been put on here before.

I’ve seen that lady before but I can’t remember where. I haven’t time now but will look at this later.

Awww give over saying nhs don’t wear masks every day
I started off as a theatre scrub nurse and yes we do wear masks for surgery
You really wanting nurse breathing over open wounds
Give me a break jeez

“all day every day”

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Awww give over saying nhs don’t wear masks every day
I started off as a theatre scrub nurse and yes we do wear masks for surgery
You really wanting nurse breathing over open wounds
Give me a break jeez

Maybe you should read my post again, only slowly this time

 

[Northeast1988]

I’ve seen that lady before but I can’t remember where. I haven’t time now but will look at this later.


“all day every day”

Guess none of you have worked in a orthopaedic theatre

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Guess none of you have worked in a orthopaedic theatre

Guess you still haven't re-read my post.

 

[Cupcakemum]

Awww give over saying nhs don’t wear masks every day
I started off as a theatre scrub nurse and yes we do wear masks for surgery
You really wanting nurse breathing over open wounds
Give me a break jeez

I don't mean to attack you, but it just can't be compared.
In a surgical environment the air is cleaned regularly, and the surgeon on long operations will be changing his/her mask, as will his team approximately every 2- 3 hours.. as infection control procedure protocol. This doesn't happen in the real world.
To compare that you as a professional can wear a mask all day to a child in school isn't fair. Grown adults who have never had to wear masks have struggled.
I've worked in an environment where I've had to wear them for a whole shift because we had confirmed cases of norovirus or MRSA, and we both know its not easy, and we both know that you need to be very aware on how you handle your PPE.
To say just because you're NHS staff that you can do it means nothing. Everyone everywhere is thankful for your work, as they are care staff in private care homes, but I'm sorry to say that it doesn't give divine right to compare yourself to ordinary people who have never had to do it before and suddenly have to wear them for 6/8hrs shifts.

Anyway, I'm not sure how the conspiracy thread got turned into the mask thread so I'm bowing out before I'm done for derailing

 

[Northeast1988]

I don't mean to attack you, but it just can't be compared.
In a surgical environment the air is cleaned regularly, and the surgeon on long operations will be changing his/her mask, as will his team approximately every 2- 3 hours.. as infection control procedure protocol. This doesn't happen in the real world.
To compare that you as a professional can wear a mask all day to a child in school isn't fair. Grown adults who have never had to wear masks have struggled.
I've worked in an environment where I've had to wear them for a whole shift because we had confirmed cases of norovirus or MRSA, and we both know its not easy, and we both know that you need to be very aware on how you handle your PPE.
To say just because you're NHS staff that you can do it means nothing. Everyone everywhere is thankful for your work, as they are care staff in private care homes, but I'm sorry to say that it doesn't give divine right to compare yourself to ordinary people who have never had to do it before and suddenly have to wear them for 6/8hrs shifts.

Anyway, I'm not sure how the conspiracy thread got turned into the mask thread so I'm bowing out before I'm done for derailing

If you look at the original source of how the mask thing originated , it was suggested that prolonged mask wearing causes lung infections and a variety of other health issues . I argued the case that if this really was the case then surely it’s a health and safety issue for theatre nurses who can wear them for procedures that are like 8/9 hours long and again if all these health issues were to be true it would be put on the risk register

it was never a case well if nurses can wear masks for this long then the general public will have no problem .

 

[Rosie878]

I find this really disturbing: https://amp.theguardian.com/educati...=Share_iOSApp_Other&__twitter_impression=true
They don’t even mention the psychological impact of normalising mask wearing to young kids.

On a different topic, what are everyone’s thoughts on the upcoming census (in the UK)? I definitely get my love of conspiracy theories from my dad and always remember him writing that he found the questions obtrusive all over it! I will only be answering the essential questions which you can be prosecuted for not completing.

 

[Columbo]

Furlough scheme extended til September? That doesn't sound promising does it?

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Furlough scheme extended til September? That doesn't sound promising does it?

Our new normal.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

Our new normal.

Yet Texas and another US state have opened up completely and got rid of masks! Honestly how much longer will people put up with this. We don't have long on this earth and none of us are getting out alive. We need to start living again!

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Yet Texas and another US state have opened up completely and got rid of masks! Honestly how much longer will people put up with this. We don't have long on this earth and none of us are getting out alive. We need to start living again!

It will go on until people stop accepting it
It will go on until people see that suicide due to lockdown is just as tragic as a covid death.
Mostly it will stop when people unplug their TV.

Let's hope other states follow Texas, lets hope the UK follows as well.

 

[chanandlerbong]

Furlough scheme extended til September? That doesn't sound promising does it?

Normality in July but furlough till September and domestic vaccine passports being discussed to allow venues to open, doesn’t add up to moi

 

[Columbo]

It will go on until people stop accepting it
It will go on until people see that suicide due to lockdown is just as tragic as a covid death.
Mostly it will stop when people unplug their TV.

Let's hope other states follow Texas, lets hope the UK follows as well.

But will ever know the extent of lockdown suicides? It won't be discussed on the news, only ever covid deaths and covid cases.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

But will ever know the extent of lockdown suicides? It won't be discussed on the news, only ever covid deaths and covid cases.

The real cost to lives will never be known, 24-hour fearporn on the TV and radio destroying peoples mental health.
All those businesses shutting down, homes lost so more homeless. more marriages breaking down. I know 4 strong relationships that have gone down the pan. One of those was a 45-year marriage and my friend killed herself over it ending.
My daughter's relationship ( three children) ended, my carer's marriage ( two children) ended, another friend 25 years married ( emergency foster parents with three of their own children) ended.

What's the cost to this generation of children? scared they will kill granny, scared of germs, mostly stuck home with parents who might not be coping very well.
When I think of my own life with abusive parents and then abusive partners I feel absolute fear for those kids and people stuck at home with an abuser(s)

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

But will ever know the extent of lockdown suicides? It won't be discussed on the news, only ever covid deaths and covid cases.

I think it will come crumbling down when more places start to open up and it becomes clear to see the lockdowns didn't work. In America it's unravelling because of Florida who had no lockdown and their death rate is actually better than that of California who had strict lockdowns.

I do wonder how the great reset plays into it all as I can't understand how parts of the US has opened up and other parts still locked down. It does seem to be heavily political as the lockdown states are democratic states.

Where as in this country we have a heavily corrupt govt who are selling us off to the highest global bidder. I'm sure the truth will come out in the end but my worry is by the time that happens they will be long gone.

 

[chanandlerbong]

Great thread on this topic from Zuby


But honestly I think the tipping point has been and gone. If it was gonna happen it would have been when they put us in an indefinite lockdown based on an unsubstantiated killer variant. Or when they promised normality by Easter after the vulnerable were vaccinated and then changed that to Summer at the earliest. Or when the roadmap was announced after 2 months of lockdown only to reveal we were actually gonna be under restrictions for a total of 9 months although we have a vaccine. Or when they did a U-turn on vaccine passports.

By now they know they can get away with literally anything and people will be begging for lockdown come October after project fear ramps up again. That’s why I think vaccine passports are inevitable. Yeah most have their objections but it’s not about whether we agree anymore but whether we’d do something about it, which sadly is a big fat no