Conspiracy Theories #6

[chanandlerbong]

As I didn't get any responses on the last thread I'm going to shamelessly repost in case anyone can give me some answers to my concerns:

When will we be back to normal? Can someone give me an estimated date? I would love nothing more than to be wrong so if I can have an end date to work towards and panic after, that would be great. The trouble is the government have moved the goalposts so many times and people have accepted this without question. What confuses me about this is that lockdowns cost £2.4b per day, economic collapse is no longer a risk but a certainty. The government know this. Indefinite lockdowns with no exit strategy are suicide so a carefree attitude of 'when the vaccine takes effect, it is what it is' is a death sentence.

What possible justification is there that this can’t be a totalitarian regime emerging? Totalitarianism has reared it's ugly head many times throughout history and ordinary people have had to fight back for their freedom. It's actually successfully got 1.4b Chinese people under control right now. But that couldn't possibly happen here... Why? Because we have a White British government? Because the UK is somehow superior/more civilised than the rest of the world? I think there are some... undertones to this line of thinking. Weirdly it could never happen here but yet we're following the CCP model to the letter right now.

What is stopping the UK from total economic collapse? The government have spent in excess of £600b on this farce in full knowledge that 40%+ businesses will never reopen and millions will be out of work, unable to pay back the deficit. Now 40% can't possibly be correct as there is no end date to lockdown (including tiers where most businesses still can't open or have to trade at a loss) so eventually the figure will be much higher. Furlough is just propping up businesses while they get into more debt. Eventually almost all will collapse once furlough ends. And when the inevitable happens, will you be fine with it? It was worth it? Just incompetence, they did what they had to do?

And add another:

Why am I a 'conspiracy nut job' for asking these questions? Seriously? When people can't debunk what I'm saying all I get it "quiet conspiracy theorist! You're scaring people! You're gonna make them commit suicide!" Would you have said that to any Venezuelans or Zimbabweans trying to sound the alarm pre-collapse? (I mean probably tbh) But because there's a 'greater good' involved I'm supposed to ignore the oblivion we're sleepwalking into?

We have never deliberately and knowingly annihilated our own economy over a virus before Why am I the only one finding that bizarre? We were told the first lockdown would plunge us into a depression greater than that of the 1920s but yet it's been radio silence on the MSM on that point since then. Does that not arouse suspicion? Almost as if if the public knew what was on the horizon most would take the risk of getting COVID?

 

[MillionDollarBaby]

Hi I’m new here! So glad to have found this thread.
I don’t deny that there is a virus, I don’t deny that it has the ability to make some people very sick.
However... I do think there is more going on and I don’t understand how so many people have blindly gone along so far.
I don’t live in fear of a virus that I have a very high chance of making a full recovery from after feeling crap for a few days, however I do live in fear of where we are headed as a society.
We have been lied to, from the minute Boris said “it’s just 3 weeks to flatten the curve”.
My questions are as follows:
1) why waste money on the nightingale hospitals and all that they entailed when they knew that the NHS has been horrifically understaffed for years. Where were the staff ever going to come from? As I understand they are now mostly decommissioned as they cannot staff them. What was the point? The only things I can think of, mass hysteria the public thinks “oh my gosh look at the sizes of hospitals we are going to need for these people alongside the hospitals we already have” and to line the pockets of their mates once again.
2) why the fascination with this 1 in 50 people have covid, that means 98 in 100 don’t have it. Again people seem blind to this number, I know which one I prefer my odds with.
3) why this virus? We didn’t shut down for mad cow disease, bird flu, swine flu etc so why this one, which when you look at the data that is so readily available it is in the main killing people that are on or around the average mortality rate for the UK anyway. Whilst I wouldn’t wish loss on anyone unfortunately the only two things you can guarantee in life are death and taxes.
4) when will this end, when will we be able to se our families again? Socialise again? Act like the social animals that we are once again.
This isn’t living this is existing and it’s really starting to get me down.
Especially in a world where you are vilified for having an opinion that differs to that of MSM.
Sorry long post apologies if I haven’t articulated myself very well, I get all wound up and excited cause I have nobody else to talk to about all this
Edited: spelling

 

[Spacemonkey1972]

It’s not really a conspiracy theory as such but I’m sick to death of the simpering over Kamala Harris and joe Biden. But especially Harris. Even the hinch thread have got a gushing title towards her. The woman slept with other women’s husbands to get to the top. Used blackmail to advance her career. While she was mayor she incarcerated more black people (men especially) than anyone before or after. Separating them from families for small misdemeanours. Oh she’s someone to look up to. No thanks. Shagging her way to the top. She said joe was a rapist then changed her tune pretty quickly.
As for Biden. Don’t get me started. Suddenly the WHO tests are invalid. Oh shock

 

[HereWeGoAgain101]

I’m so glad I found this thread! I don’t even know where to start with it all.

First off, why are they still using PCR tests when they have proven to have a 90% false positive rate. And why are they trying to find new cases. It’s almost as though they want people to have Covid on their death certificate.

Why are they deliberately putting the fear of god into the general public? Surely if there was such a huge crisis they would be trying to calm people down like they did at the beginning. It’s almost criminal how sinister the Covid campaigns are now.

Why are they still using the lockdown policy when they have actually been proven to be ineffective on a whole.

How have they been allowed to give million pound contacts out to their mates. Surely thats a massive conflict of interest. I mean Vallance actually has shares in big pharma companies to do with the vaccine!!

Why does it state on the WEF website that their corporate partners are Pfizer and AstraZeneca!!? If that’s not suspect I don’t know what is.

And finally why is no one in the media asking these questions! They seem completely complicit in all this which to me is the most sinister of all.

I usually try to switch off my brain from it all otherwise it’ll explode but these are questions that eat me alive daily

All great, valid questions. Do you remember how we were introduced to Covid? We were fed with footage of people in Wuhan dropping dead on the streets. What a crock of shit. This was only ever intended as control via fear. I must admit, it did scare me until I actually got Covid, which was just a dose of flu basically, not the certain death I was led to believe. Background, I am in 3 levels of vulnerability for this, worst of all severe asthma. I’ve had pneumonia twice, much worse. I’ve met so many people who have lost family members to “Covid”, only they are now seeking legal representation because they didn’t die from Covid. They died within 28 days of a test, one from a heart attack, one a brain haemorrhage and one in a car crash. All had Covid on the death certificates.

Lies, lies, lies. I’ve always banged on about how we are controlled by the food and drug industry. Bottom line, and I’ll shout this in case you can’t hear “THERE IS NO MONEY IN A HEALTHY SOCIETY”. They poison us on the daily, via food, water, prescription drugs, alcohol, cigarettes (which btw everyone knows kills but have they banned them - NO).

Doctors are brainwashed at medical schools to believe what they are told is the only way. Have a conversation with one about well established alternative therapies and you’ll see just how brainwashed and arrogant they are. It’s not their fault. The drug companies run the show. Any alternatives are classed as quackery, normally because they are cheap and accessible to all (read The Borax Conspiracy). I’m sure many go in with wonderful philanthropic reasons, but that’s how they get manipulated. Also talk to doctors who have left the industry because they’ve seen the light.

Having said that, Doctors are useful in some circumstances, there are some great drugs like antibiotics, but they are only prescribing drugs, many new to the market, that are sold to them through the drug companies as cure all snake oils. Doctors are not pharmacists/chemists. They only prescribe based on what they’ve been told.

You have to ask why we’re so fearful because, after all, we’re all going to die, yet we’re all trying to die of something less serious. Does it matter? My philosophy is to live each day the best you can and not worry about what “THEY” tell you. Yes, your grandma/grandpa is going to die, usually in their 80s or 90s something will get them, maybe even Covid. Probably if they’re frail a common cold will get them. That’s just life.

Please don’t take any of this as a lack of empathy, more just common sense. I’m a person who lost both parents by the age of 18. The pain is astounding, but we’re all on that path, so why not just enjoy the ride. Being afraid of death and being led to believe that doctors will stop you dying is a great money spinner and brings me back to my first point, control through fear.

I also echo every word @chanandlerbong said above.

Try spending an hour in my head

 

[chanandlerbong]

Rant incoming...
Does anyone else feel physically sick each day as lockdown continues knowing what it's costing? £2.4b per day to be exact. Yes I am still banging on about it and will continue to because it just blows my mind how the topic is completely absent from the narrative within government, media and real life? I broached it when walking with my friend this weekend and she physically recoiled.

Everyone should be fighting tooth and nail for this to end NOW. No "it is what it is" "whenever the vaccine takes effect" approach. I cannot believe that there are fully grown, working, tax-paying adults that are unconcerned by the UK economy being paused for 10 months and are actually comfortable with this continuing indefinitely?

The idea that anti-lockdowners are selfish 'granny killers' is genuinely nonsensical. When the cost of living trebles and Doris can't afford to keep the heating on, she will die. Why does no one care about that? Why is no one even mentioning it? The economy has a greater impact on lifespan than COVID - including the vulnerable - I cannot stress this enough. Once furlough ends the economic ripple effect of redundancies, loan defaults and businesses collapsing will be biblical. Yet all I see is an occasional "guys I'm kinda worried for my husband's job" like... yeah. That is an extremely wise concern to have in the current climate.

I don't care if I'm scaring people because we absolutely should be scared. Maybe if more were we wouldn't be in this mess! This is past the point of concern for our jobs but our pensions and money in our account too. I predict post-furlough a lot of pro-lockdowners will find themselves unable to put food on the table and will feel very different about having no right to protest...

 

[Barb]

I am a truth seeker. My dad is a die hard conspiracy theorist and was telling me about coronavirus and vaccine passports over a year before it happened. (Passports haven't happened YET). I to use say to him that I was listening but as there was no proof, I'm going to rubbish is as 'conspiracy theories' but always said that if it did happen, I wouldn't be stupid enough to not research. So thats where I am. I did my research and none of it makes sense and I am 100% sure that the vaccine that doesn't stop the spread is not for the virus. It is unnecessary. We will have the Nuremberg Trails all over again soon.

He's a ridiculous waste of space, couldn't explain the stink if it came out his own arse.
The vaccine is not 100% effective, nothing is.
To put this in another way, imagine we're talking about contraception. You could swear by the pull out method (distancing) but it's not 100% You could use a condom (mask) but, it might tear, not fit... (chin strap, unwashed) This knobhead is trying to convince everyone to go on the pill. You might have side effects, it's not for everyone. It's not 100% either but it's the best we have for now. You are at least risk if you do all 3 things but even if you do, you could still find yourself pregnant. Everyone with half a brain understands this but he's standing up saying, 'well, uh, everyone's might get pregnant because we don't know if any of these methods work but please do them anyway' He doesn't understand to be able to explain.

That's why everyone needs to get on board with all aspects of the 'swiss cheese' layers of protection until enough people are vaccinated (to reduce serious cases) and let the virus mutate down. The new strains are not more deadly, they are just able to spread faster. It's still Russian roulette if you die or not. Based on previous pandemics this will be over when enough people are dead the rest who are alive don't give a shit about being dead. The vaccine, masks, distancing in all those flawed ways, lowers your chances of being that serious case. If you feel you are healthy and willing to take the risk, fine, no one should force you. But the difference between the virus and pregnancy is consent. You are fucking everyone you come in contact with without any protection and I do not give my consent to be in the 5% who despite me taking all precautions gets pregnant. Or dies. Whatever.

This is a messed up analogy but im just ranting now.

If I'm wrong, I would have worn a mask, if you are wrong, you will have killed thousands. Highest death rate IN THE WORLD.

Yes, our economy is fucked, the nhs is fucked, the Tories did this before the pandemic and Brexit. They had the option to put stricter rules in the beginning but they put the economy before lives and now they have made both worse. They have blood on their, 'ppe contracts to mates, failed track and trace, straving children, privatising nhs, brexit lies etc.' hands.

I'm probably going to delete this, it's not the right place but I'm so angry about this bs.

But they’re not both equally devastating. 99.98% survival rate for ages 20-45 versus waking up to 2,000% inflation and all the money in your account being worthless. Looting, mass homelessness and being unable to feed yourself and your children. I really do not believe in the event of total economic collapse that anyone would think it was fair enough and reopening society wasn’t worth the risk.

They’re nowhere near comparable and the fact that the government haven’t even touched upon the economic impact of their measures is terrifying and very telling. There is quite literally no end date either. Enough is enough

You are correct, the economy, people's lives, everything is a mess. But we do also have a pandemic. They are compatible not comparable, there wouldn't be one without the other. We can't ignore it and acting like we can is irresponsible.

 

[kazizzle]

and turns out it’s not a vaccine at all but an mRNA which attaches to and alters dna.

It doesn't alter your DNA. The vaccine contains mRNA which tells your cells to create the coronavirus spike protein. Your body then makes the protein and your immune system generates the immune response, meaning when you come in to contact with the actual coronavirus then your body will recognise it and know what to do. The same way ALL vaccines work. mRNA can't change your DNA and only sticks around in your system for about 72 hours - only long enough so your body will produce the immune response.

 

[chanandlerbong]

I'm not a covid denier. I've had covid. I wear a mask when in places I should. I only go out to the local shop and in my own back garden for exercise. My car hasn't been used. I haven't taken public transport. I'm working from home and have childcare only when absolutely necessary. Doesn't mean I cannot think some things about this whole situation is not quite right. I'm not sure who you are aiming your post at but it isn't very friendly... Its like you are blaming all the people on this thread for the continued lockdown

The biggest ‘rule breaker’ I know is my 84 year old neighbour She comes round three times a week for a cuppa and makes a point of stopping by after each new restriction or lockdown is announced which makes me laugh. She says she’d rather be dead than have been on her own for the past 10 months, and rightfully so.

 

[Annieanne]

Thank you, this is well put together Research, it’s all there, but apparently we are crazy!

There are an awful lot of very frightened people out there now. It makes me so sad that we can't get through to them all. I think us so called Conspiracy theorists must take it on the chin. We have to try not to get involved in tit for tat arguments. To be fair what we believe is far scarier than what they believe. So I suppose we can't blame them for ridiculing everything we say. They feel much safer believing in a saviour/vaccine.
Of course, they want their lives back.
To be honest, I keep reading their arguments in an attempt to change my own mind.
It's no good though. Sadly my eyes are wide open!

 

[monga]

That's completely fake she's able to talk for one and is in complete control of her arms and legs she's even fixing her hair on camera .I know someone with dystonia so I know what it looks like when your body is out of control and that's not it .

 

[HereWeGoAgain101]

I don’t even know anyone with a small business but may spend some time campaigning for this locally this weekend. I’d also like my self-proclaimed “champion of the high street and small businesses” MP barred from every business she has voted to destroy so may add that in there too

My feeling is if everyone stands up and says fuck off, what can they do? They (the rule makers) work for us. That’s the people speaking. Unfortunately, there’s a high percentage of people who are compliant to rules. I’ve never walked with those people. Unquestioning, fearful, complicit, gullible. Impressed with people’s status in life rather than character and motive. They can’t lock everyone up. The common man needs to unite to stop this madness. To say, no, we’ve had enough! This will all end very badly if we allow the few to control the many. If I was younger I’d be incarcerated by now

 

[mishkamalka]

Omg I’ve found my people!
I’m an American. I read here a lot trying to gain perspective on what the U.K. is going through with lockdowns.
I can tell you all a few things about what’s going on in the US:
1. The Inauguration was like something out of Hunger Games. Not sure why they are all channeling fascists with their attire but the whole thing was creepy. The reason there was no crowd is because it would have been sparse. Biden never really campaigned.
2. Our media is incredibly biased. I’m not necessarily pro-Trump But but for example the media loves to point out how when Trump began his term the economy was great and unemployment was low and then compare the end of term numbers- and call him a shite president but actually... the numbers are because of our economic collapse via pandemic. This kind of journalism is scary.
3. I don’t know of anyone personally who has had Covid. I am acquainted with nurses, too. Take that as you may.
4. Our election WAS hacked. We have never had an election carry on for several days but... this one did. Trump had a lead, so they stopped counting in the middle of the night 1am- by morning Biden’s numbers leapt in such a way that many data analysts have proven statistically impossible.
5. Everyone I know basically pretends to be liberal as to not offend anyone. If you use social media, like I do, you can’t mention any of this. Instagram will remove it.
And somehow we’ve tied in the BLM movement to equal liberalism ... so anyone who is cynical of vaccines/Biden/lockdowns = a racist.
Clever stuff.
6. Oh, and they flat out censored our president. What world do we live in when a president is flat out banned from speaking to people. Does no one stop to wonder, what it is they didn’t want him to say?
7. I recently saw a PBS chairholder secretly filmed by project veritas saying he wanted to put the children of people who voted for Trump into “deproggraming” camps. But like, make it fun, with Sesame Street characters and stuff.

America, home of the free! Founded on the promises of liberty and freedom of speech. And I’m scared for my children’s future. Sorry I went on a bit of a rant! You can’t even talk about this right now.

 

[chanandlerbong]

He's a ridiculous waste of space, couldn't explain the stink if it came out his own arse.
The vaccine is not 100% effective, nothing is.
To put this in another way, imagine we're talking about contraception. You could swear by the pull out method (distancing) but it's not 100% You could use a condom (mask) but, it might tear, not fit... (chin strap, unwashed) This knobhead is trying to convince everyone to go on the pill. You might have side effects, it's not for everyone. It's not 100% either but it's the best we have for now. You are at least risk if you do all 3 things but even if you do, you could still find yourself pregnant. Everyone with half a brain understands this but he's standing up saying, 'well, uh, everyone's might get pregnant because we don't know if any of these methods work but please do them anyway' He doesn't understand to be able to explain.

That's why everyone needs to get on board with all aspects of the 'swiss cheese' layers of protection until enough people are vaccinated (to reduce serious cases) and let the virus mutate down. The new strains are not more deadly, they are just able to spread faster. It's still Russian roulette if you die or not. Based on previous pandemics this will be over when enough people are dead the rest who are alive don't give a shit about being dead. The vaccine, masks, distancing in all those flawed ways, lowers your chances of being that serious case. If you feel you are healthy and willing to take the risk, fine, no one should force you. But the difference between the virus and pregnancy is consent. You are fucking everyone you come in contact with without any protection and I do not give my consent to be in the 5% who despite me taking all precautions gets pregnant. Or dies. Whatever.

This is a messed up analogy but im just ranting now.

If I'm wrong, I would have worn a mask, if you are wrong, you will have killed thousands. Highest death rate IN THE WORLD.

Yes, our economy is fucked, the nhs is fucked, the Tories did this before the pandemic and Brexit. They had the option to put stricter rules in the beginning but they put the economy before lives and now they have made both worse. They have blood on their, 'ppe contracts to mates, failed track and trace, straving children, privatising nhs, brexit lies etc.' hands.

I'm probably going to delete this, it's not the right place but I'm so angry about this bs.


You are correct, the economy, people's lives, everything is a mess. But we do also have a pandemic. They are compatible not comparable, there wouldn't be one without the other. We can't ignore it and acting like we can is irresponsible.

But if you're wrong, you will have permanently lost every single one of your civil liberties and consented to a police state, system of mass surveillance and tracking and state overreach into every aspect of human life. But by that point the framework will be so deeply embedded that it will be far too late to turn back. There is a hell of a lot more to lose than just wearing a mask.

I understand that this concept doesn't even enter your mind because you believe all of this has been done in good faith. And sometimes I’m in disbelief that something this evil can be happening and try to convince myself otherwise. But then I remember that I'm thinking from a place of privilege and many individuals throughout history have suffered under similar regimes and have had to rise up. History tells us that governments cannot be trusted with this type of power. We’ve already been told that restrictions will be needed next winter which means the Coronavirus Act will extend to then at least. Postponing the elections in MAY tells you everything you need to know - we are no longer free.

The virus is real and that’s what makes this so evil. But is it worth losing our entire way of life for and not having a free world to pass down to our children? Not for me, and particularly not when it seems the government is intent on running out the clock until the economy completely collapses which will result in thousands more dying. I understand your anger but it is misplaced. You shouldn't believe anyone on this thread is selfish and doesn't care about people dying because it just isn't true. I get the "your right to choose to expose yourself to the virus means someone else might die" concept, everyone on here does and was probably of that opinion a few months ago. But that line of thinking has enabled governments to build internment camps in 2020. That either terrifies you or it doesn't so at that point we reach a stalemate.

I believe that the elite have no care for human life and are using ours against us to force us into a new and very unpleasant way of life. Nothing I say is out of ignorance or no concern for the consequences - not that I agree with the scale, mind you - I just believe the alternative will be much much worse in all aspects. At the end of the day we both want what we believe is best for humanity. I hope I've explained my position.

 

[MrsSoprano]

So in my job we have all been offered the vaccine as soon as we fill out the online link we have an appt with days/hours most have had them this week I’ve not said anything, so today a manager asks when my appt is and I say “ah I’m not fussed I’m low risk, more to go around for the the ones who need it”
Honestly you would of thought I said I like to eat children
I don’t give a shit what people do even if I don’t agree BUT why are people so bothered by those that don’t want a vaccine for something with 98% survival rate!! I then went on to say you’ve never asked if I’ve had my MMR before or anything else why so bothered about my health now?

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

I agree, I've got a 17yr old who suffers badly with MH and has said she didn't think she'd make it to see 18. She's 18 in a few weeks and can't celebrate at someone her age should be able too. She's due to finish college soon and desperately wants to work, but chances of her finding something are very slim, so with no college to occupy her kind and no work I'm really worried.
My 14yr old has aches and pains where he's not moving and he's normally very active, and my 21yr old has had to rely on UC on and off, which is something that really did upset him as he's proud and just wants to work.
I'm going stir crazy and with nothing to do I just worry about them, so I have times of feeling low.
You can read what the government are going to decide like a book now, which begs the question how it can be so predictable when we're told it's am unpredictable virus


Tier is just a fancy name for lockdown and a word that people weirdly now associate with freedom. What have we come too!

I just can’t understand how anyone cannot see through it all now. How can they not see that figures are being manipulated!? How can they not see that the collateral damage of lockdown will completely outweigh any lives saved (which I doubt are any). How can they not see the government are lying through their teeth? How can they not see the media is complicit in all this rubbish? I should imagine the media are being paid hefty amounts by the govt to print all of this propaganda. Which means we’re effectively paying to be brainwashed and imprisoned! It’s absolutely crazy!

 

[Lyannastark]

There will always be a new strain or mutation to plunge us back into lockdowns, I've tried so hard to not believe it but they are literally telling us exactly what to expect, a few weeks / months has turned into indefinitely and having less and less freedom. They sell us the fear and crisis so we willing demand more restrictions and report anyone deemed not following it correctly. I'm not a covid denier, fully believe there is a virus, not convinced of the origin.

 

[Cupcakemum]

She’s just like all the other people who were under the impression that by having the vaccine, their lives would go back to normal, but they don’t understand that life will NEVER go back to how it was pre-pandemic. I mean, I’ve heard that when the pubs open, they won’t be selling alcohol!! WTF is THAT all about????!!!!!
I also read today, that there’s been a huge uptick in the amount of dogs that are being abandoned and put into shelters, just because the government have said that dogs can potentially pass the coronavirus to humans!! The fact is, that coronavirus’s are naturally found in many animals!! Even in the government’s covid website, there is a part where it says that if you are isolating, you should “avoid” close contact with your dog, such as cuddling them!! How horrible is that?!! You are being told not to cuddle your pet “just incase”. What next?? Are the government going to “advise” people to “give up” their pets like they did in WW2???
I would never ever give ANY of my dogs/horses/cat up. Infact I’d like to see anyone try and take them!!

I agree, all these measures that are being introduced like the passports they will sell to us like its only for as long as covid is with us.. but all you need to think about is something like the Dartford charge, that was only meant to be here until they'd paid for it, but its still here and will never go away. This will be the same, but no one is understanding that the passport could move on to day to day things and your right to move freely has been taken away - permanently!

I volunteer for a dog rescue, and pay attention to a lot of pet rescues. Not only were people giving their animals up because they thought they could infect them, they are also giving them up because they've bought them irresponsibly... so they were bored on furlough and thought it would be great to get a pet, then realise they're bloody hard work and pass them on. So which ever way animals have been victim of covid through sheer stupidity!
Its not just animals people are refusing to cuddle, its their dying relatives. I've heard numerous times how a loved one is end of life, and because the rules say they can't visit they're leaving them alone through fear of passing on the virus or fear of being fined... what the fuck!? They're end of life, go be with that person, break rules, get fined, because you'll never get that time back.
From every way you look at it this it's abuse. If this was a man telling a woman to never see someone or cuddle their pet then there would be uproar, but when 'science' tells them then it's all ok...

 

[totallytaz]

Trump claimed from the start that the virus wasn’t all it was claimed to be. He warned of the efficacy of testing. He was called mad. Low and behold, he was right but the credit for anything will go to Dementia Joe. Trump also banned all flights from China at the outset. He was called a racist. Now Biden is reinstating bans on flights from Europe and UK Trump lifted, but he’s a bloody hero. I’m not for any political parties but I hate hypocrites!

I have to agree with this. Many a know-it-all woke journalist at the time were calling a proposed flight ban to be a xenophobic move. There’s nothing xenophobic about protecting your country’s people. China didn’t think twice and don’t about banning flights when see fit.

It’s not really a conspiracy theory as such but I’m sick to death of the simpering over Kamala Harris and joe Biden. But especially Harris. Even the hinch thread have got a gushing title towards her. The woman slept with other women’s husbands to get to the top. Used blackmail to advance her career. While she was mayor she incarcerated more black people (men especially) than anyone before or after. Separating them from families for small misdemeanours. Oh she’s someone to look up to. No thanks. Shagging her way to the top. She said joe was a rapist then changed her tune pretty quickly.
As for Biden. Don’t get me started. Suddenly the WHO tests are invalid. Oh shock

I completely agree about the unnecessary gushing. And have you seen the headlines today about the way the National Guard have been thanked for their inauguration service?

Portland can burn to the ground. The regular civilians’ businesses can be looted and set fire to, their lifelong livelihood burnt to rubble, leaving many impoverished - Kamala deems it “wonderful” and Nancy shrugs her shoulders and says “it is what it is.”

Then in Washington DC, someone has a twirl on Nancy’s swivel seat and suddenly the country is under imminent threat and national guard must be called in. And, by the way, look who was having a carry on during the inauguration...Antifa.

Disgusting hypocrisy. None of them really give a shit about the people of America.

 

[Annieanne]

Confused by this statement, you make it sound like a negative thing - vaccinating people against covid. Why do you think this is a bad thing? Babies are vaccinated every day routinely against all sorts of illnesses.

I have no problem with vaccinations and I'm not antivax. I have children and I have a responsibility to them. They have had all the tried and trusted vaccinations My research and my gut tells me that this vaccine is not right for me me and mine. I do not trust the propaganda.
I am not trying to influence anyone, just sharing my views on a free speech forum with some like minded people. Good luck to you. In these difficult times we must all do exactly what we think is best for our loved ones.
I make no apologies... I do me x

 

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I truly believe that fat turnip Johnson was never in intensive care.