Yes totally agree with thisDoes anyone else get the fan flutters for people in the public eye who have no children (whether or not it is known if it is a conscious choice)?
Watching Line of Duty over my husband's shoulder and his obsessive Wikipedia habit informed me Vicky McClure has no children and is just a smidge older than me. She also seems really cool in general.
I guess it is just basic representation isn't it really? Maybe I'm feeling it more now I am more solid in my decision to not have children.
Yes, makes you feel less outcasted.Does anyone else get the fan flutters for people in the public eye who have no children (whether or not it is known if it is a conscious choice)?
Watching Line of Duty over my husband's shoulder and his obsessive Wikipedia habit informed me Vicky McClure has no children and is just a smidge older than me. She also seems really cool in general.
I guess it is just basic representation isn't it really? Maybe I'm feeling it more now I am more solid in my decision to not have children.
See this is why i hate parents.Me and my partner are away for the weekend and went for breakfast this morning. There was a couple with a boy near us he was probably about 3, screaming through the meal and throwing his toys everywhere. All I wanted was a nice relaxing coffee and brekky. When we left my bf was like god I couldn't think of anything worse
Haha, I have kids and would pay for this too!I hate it when parents take a big group of kids out for a birthday and then don’t sit anywhere near them, they’re literally your responsibility and if you can’t even bear to sit in the same row as these kids then why the hell do you think anyone else wants to? I would definitely pay more for the cinema, theatre etc for adult only screenings, no idea why this isn’t a thing yet
Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t remember EVER behaving like this, nor did my siblings. I feel like it’s only been a thing since the late 90s/early 2000s.Me and my partner are away for the weekend and went for breakfast this morning. There was a couple with a boy near us he was probably about 3, screaming through the meal and throwing his toys everywhere. All I wanted was a nice relaxing coffee and brekky. When we left my bf was like god I couldn't think of anything worse
If I was screaming at a restaurant with my parents they would feel so ashamed and would leave. However people let their kids do way too much these days.Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t remember EVER behaving like this, nor did my siblings. I feel like it’s only been a thing since the late 90s/early 2000s.
I think part of that is going out to eat has become more normalised and not a special treat as chain restaurants & cafes have boomed - so, essentially, you see far more young kids in those places than you used to. Fair enough I guess.
But also? It’s like some parents (emphasis on some) just do not give a shit if their child disturbs others. I totally appreciate that some children are difficult, and every kid has loud moments, but I just think back in the day, the parents would have immediately taken the child home rather than allowed their behaviour to ruin every other guest’s time. My parents would have shamed me into silence
It’s that totally lax attitude of some parents that annoys me. Just a little bit of awareness goes such a long way! A little nod, an apology, just a recognition that I (and others) exist and we don’t enjoy your screaming kid helps so much. Just because a parent is used to it and can ignore it doesn’t mean everyone else in the venue isn’t thoroughly fed up by their noise!
Tell me about it, me and my husband went to a very fancy place for lunch last weekend, and part way through the table next to us came, with their baby and toddler in a giant pushchair which was basically at our table, they were so loud and annoying, and it was so not a place for children/babiesMe and my partner are away for the weekend and went for breakfast this morning. There was a couple with a boy near us he was probably about 3, screaming through the meal and throwing his toys everywhere. All I wanted was a nice relaxing coffee and brekky. When we left my bf was like god I couldn't think of anything worse
We said this too! He looked so bored. He wasn't eating either, just the parents having their breakfast so he must have been restless.See this is why i hate parents.
The 3 year old knows no better and can't express himself adequately. However the parents should be doing everything to reassure him and, most importantly, shut him up!!!
Representation is so important.Does anyone else get the fan flutters for people in the public eye who have no children (whether or not it is known if it is a conscious choice)?
Watching Line of Duty over my husband's shoulder and his obsessive Wikipedia habit informed me Vicky McClure has no children and is just a smidge older than me. She also seems really cool in general.
I guess it is just basic representation isn't it really? Maybe I'm feeling it more now I am more solid in my decision to not have children.
I agree. I can’t understand why so many children these days are so pampered and worshipped? I was born in 95 and I certainly wasn’t, if I stepped out of line I got a slap… my mum only had to look at me usually to get me to behave…Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t remember EVER behaving like this, nor did my siblings. I feel like it’s only been a thing since the late 90s/early 2000s.
I think part of that is going out to eat has become more normalised and not a special treat as chain restaurants & cafes have boomed - so, essentially, you see far more young kids in those places than you used to. Fair enough I guess.
But also? It’s like some parents (emphasis on some) just do not give a shit if their child disturbs others. I totally appreciate that some children are difficult, and every kid has loud moments, but I just think back in the day, the parents would have immediately taken the child home rather than allowed their behaviour to ruin every other guest’s time. My parents would have shamed me into silence
It’s that totally lax attitude of some parents that annoys me. Just a little bit of awareness goes such a long way! A little nod, an apology, just a recognition that I (and others) exist and we don’t enjoy your screaming kid helps so much. Just because a parent is used to it and can ignore it doesn’t mean everyone else in the venue isn’t thoroughly fed up by their noise!
I am of the opinion that children and animals need to be treated the same. Clear boundaries, black and white, right and wrong.I used to have some friends who have since divorced, but they raised their baby on the assumption that if his needs were not being met 100%, then they were going to cause him irreparable psychological damage. A group of us went to the pub when this kid was a toddler - he was throwing stuff, parents were like, "Can you pick up your shoes mate? Can you say hello, buddy?" (Mate, buddy) and when he went to pull the blinds off a window, a friend - not his parent, took him away and said, "No, you don't break things." This kid howled in a rage, because it was one of the only times anyone had given him a boundary of any kind.
They've had no end of problems with him at school - refusing to wear the uniform, disrespecting teachers, refusing to do homework etc. They then started seeking a medical label for his behaviour, refusing to acknowledge he was a product of the permissive environment they had raised him in. They did not get the medical labels they desired.
A lot of our friendships are with childfree people anyway, but out of the parents we know, they are their parents and their children are the children - not their pals, mates or the centre of the universe.
This is an issue that I had with my ex-boyfriend. We decided to babysit his little brother to see if we could handle a child. He would let the child do everything he wanted. Every time I would say no and impose boundaries the child would scream because no one imposed boundaries before. This is was a huge incompatibility problem for us.I used to have some friends who have since divorced, but they raised their baby on the assumption that if his needs were not being met 100%, then they were going to cause him irreparable psychological damage. A group of us went to the pub when this kid was a toddler - he was throwing stuff, parents were like, "Can you pick up your shoes mate? Can you say hello, buddy?" (Mate, buddy) and when he went to pull the blinds off a window, a friend - not his parent, took him away and said, "No, you don't break things." This kid howled in a rage, because it was one of the only times anyone had given him a boundary of any kind.
They've had no end of problems with him at school - refusing to wear the uniform, disrespecting teachers, refusing to do homework etc. They then started seeking a medical label for his behaviour, refusing to acknowledge he was a product of the permissive environment they had raised him in. They did not get the medical labels they desired.
A lot of our friendships are with childfree people anyway, but out of the parents we know, they are their parents and their children are the children - not their pals, mates or the centre of the universe.
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