I mean to be fair with Carrie I don’t think she had been in the bahamas before, so technically it was a new place even if she was there for less than a day
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I get that, and I agree, I just wonder if she wants to prove that she can go somewhere not Disney or work related
'I go to other places besides disney, look I'm in the bahamas' (on a Disney cruise)
This thread has gotten into my brain, last night I dreamt I was on the bus with Joel and he was complaining that he couldn’t repost something to his Instagram stories and wanted me to look at it, and it was because he had hit his story limit for the day by reposting Carrie’s stories 
She's done more stories than Gi & Tom and it was their work trip
Same in the UK,legal age is 18 but you ID everyone who doesn't look older than 25
And for Joel it's all the same, reposts of the repost repost.
So Grace Mouat, who literally burst onto the West End right at her graduation as the original solo / super swing in SIX, then went into &Juliet as alternate Juliet (leading lady) and then one of the three Delta Nu girls in Legally Blonde, has been revealed as Cinderella in Roger’s and Hammerstein’s Cinderella (the one that actually has lovely music and lyrics 
) in the Hope Mill Theatre in Manchester, it was originally announced ahead of a 2020 run but we all know what happened there - I don’t know, obviously there’s not a direct comparison as such (apart from the promotional ball gown here gives me “the dress the ball gown in ALW’s Cinders wishes it was”) but the industry out pouring of love for a new grad who’s literally worked her way up in front of the media, with social media, and has arguably gained her own fan base based on Six is certainly interesting
there was a person in the last thread I believe who asked if Carrie’s YouTube and social media made her noticeably more “well known / famous” and have more opportunities than other west end leading ladies, I would say Grace and mainly Lucie Jones, Sam Barks etc are all very good examples that no it really hasn’t and those actresses are now very quickly catching up on that front if not overtaking her
Addition to my earlier post, it’s actually the European premiere of R&H’s Cinderella and I would argue (obviously as long as it is actually good etc when it opens) that leading lady of the looooong awaited European premiere of a beloved R&H musical, even though it’s not west end (yet), is a better career move than leading lady of the sketchy, generally but of a flop ALW musical… obviously that’s got a heck of a lot of hindsight and no one would blame Carrie (not knowing where it would go) for taking the ALW job it’s just an interesting case study
) in the Hope Mill Theatre in Manchester, it was originally announced ahead of a 2020 run but we all know what happened there - I don’t know, obviously there’s not a direct comparison as such (apart from the promotional ball gown here gives me “the dress the ball gown in ALW’s Cinders wishes it was”) but the industry out pouring of love for a new grad who’s literally worked her way up in front of the media, with social media, and has arguably gained her own fan base based on Six is certainly interesting there was a person in the last thread I believe who asked if Carrie’s YouTube and social media made her noticeably more “well known / famous” and have more opportunities than other west end leading ladies, I would say Grace and mainly Lucie Jones, Sam Barks etc are all very good examples that no it really hasn’t and those actresses are now very quickly catching up on that front if not overtaking her
Addition to my earlier post, it’s actually the European premiere of R&H’s Cinderella and I would argue (obviously as long as it is actually good etc when it opens) that leading lady of the looooong awaited European premiere of a beloved R&H musical, even though it’s not west end (yet), is a better career move than leading lady of the sketchy, generally but of a flop ALW musical… obviously that’s got a heck of a lot of hindsight and no one would blame Carrie (not knowing where it would go) for taking the ALW job it’s just an interesting case study
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Just calling it as I see it, she does look unfit. For someone her age she has let herself go which is why she looks older than her age. She used to be gorgeous years ago (for example in the video someone posted of her taking over Tom's house).
Stating facts is not mean IMHO.
In fairness, Sam Barks started out on a prime time tv show that pulled in the biggest viewing figures of the time slot.
She definitely got a boost from doing that with ALW, Cameron Mackintosh etc — it was through that that she was cast in Les Mis and from there the film etc. I think she's great, but she isn't exactly your typical drama school graduate.
She definitely got a boost from doing that with ALW, Cameron Mackintosh etc — it was through that that she was cast in Les Mis and from there the film etc. I think she's great, but she isn't exactly your typical drama school graduate.
Your opinion on someone’s appearance is just that, an opinion, and therefore totally subjective. It might well be a widely shared opinion and based on some good evidence but doesn’t make it a fact.
Yes it is a fact she’s not as slim as she was 10 years ago - that can happen for a number of reasons and not all of them are to do with “letting yourself go”, even if some of what we’ve see of Carrie’s habits won’t have helped.
Credit where it’s due, a fact that has also been pointed out is that she trained for and completed a marathon which requires a certain level of fitness.
Oh trust me I know, sorry my original post wasn’t too clear I didn’t mean to say she’s a typical grad I more meant that you’ve now got examples of “big names” and grads both managing social media fan bases and either being at the top or getting to the top of their game in essentially the public eye (granted at different extremes and levels) and they seem to be managing it better than Carrie 90% if the time, such as with the WEL incident
I love that one SO much!So Grace Mouat, who literally burst onto the West End right at her graduation as the original solo / super swing in SIX, then went into &Juliet as alternate Juliet (leading lady) and then one of the three Delta Nu girls in Legally Blonde, has been revealed as Cinderella in Roger’s and Hammerstein’s Cinderella (the one that actually has lovely music and lyrics
Your opinion (nor anyone else’s) is not fact though, it’s just an opinion. Someone looking unfit in your eyes is not the same as someone actually being unfit.
I agree but she worked for it. Jesse buckly was on the same show, didn't win but both her and Sam took their exposure and advantage and ran with it. They worked to better themselves and to challenge themselves. Jessie went back and trained in drama school and has now been in some high profile tv series and movies, plus the lauded Cabaret revival in London. Sam has played a supporting role in a major musical movie, had leading roles on tour, on broadway and in the west end. Yes the TV show gave them a leg up but they took that opportunity and ran with it.
Carrie, thanks to her famous brother and social media following, had a similar leg up. What did she do? She sat on her arse and waited for people and opportunity to come to her.
That same show also produced Rachel Tucker who’s one of if not the longest running Elphaba and obviously ran in Come From Away as well working for it and managing her relationship with being well known as well
I see one of the girls on theatre tiktok mainly talking about costumes and such who absolutely slates Carrie every chance she can was in hollywood studios the same time as Carrie and turned into the biggest fangirl going. Bit hypocritical if you ask me.
Omg no way, who is it?
Flower.theatre i think her name is
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