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Finally finished To Paradise. Was very disappointed as I loved A Little Life but over 400 pages of To Paradise were plain dull.

I also don't get Hanya Yanagihara's obsession about writing about gay men.

I gave it three stars but only because book 3 redeemed it. Otherwise it would have been a solid 1 star from me.

ETA my point about her writing about gay men is because she obviously isn't one. There are scant female characters in her books and I just find it a bit odd.
 
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Six Thirty was by far my favourite character too! 😂
i was honestly googling “does the dog die in lessons in chemistry” halfway through and i think i would have quit the book if he had (sorry for spoiler but hopefully my fellow dog lovers will appreciate it 🤣)

it did make me smile when i read the authors note and saw that bonnie garmus’ own dogs all have similar names (i wonder if for similar reasons)!

Finally finished To Paradise. Was very disappointed as I loved A Little Life but over 400 pages of To Paradise were plain dull.

I also don't get Hanya Yanagihara's obsession about writing about gay men.

I gave it three stars but only because book 3 redeemed it. Otherwise it would have been a solid 1 star from me.

ETA my point about her writing about gay men is because she obviously isn't one. There are scant female characters in her books and I just find it a bit odd.
the new york times article on her is a very interesting discussion of this (in terms of her writing exclusively about [usually very beautiful and privileged] gay men) - i’ll try and find it to link for you as the writer of the article comes at it from the same viewpoint as you. ultimately there’s not much of a payoff in answers from her but she came across as someone very uncomfortable in her own skin.
 
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the new york times article on her is a very interesting discussion of this (in terms of her writing exclusively about [usually very beautiful and privileged] gay men) - i’ll try and find it to link for you as the writer of the article comes at it from the same viewpoint as you. ultimately there’s not much of a payoff in answers from her but she came across as someone very uncomfortable in her own skin.
Thanks! I would be interested to read that

To Paradise was very odd, its split jnto 3 books but none are truly linked, they are just vaguely themematic.

One "book" but more of a novella, centered around poor Hawaiian gay guy is wooed by rich white guy. Another is set in 1893 where being gay is legal and actively encouraged but is full of racism. The third book was best and as a standalone I would give it 4*. That is half told from a female perspective which was refreshing! Although it had vaccines cause autism undertones which was a bit unsettling.
 
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I'm not sure what to pick to read next from my TBR. I've just finished Spare (skipped the army bits 😴 and just wanted the tea and fuckery 🤣) I have:

The Paper Palace
Shrines of Gaiety
Bunny
Lessons in Chemistry
Notes on an Execution

I want something a little lighthearted and mindless (hellish week at work) which rules out the last one, even though Lessons in Chemistry hasn't had rave reviews here it might have to be that one.
 
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Finally finished To Paradise. Was very disappointed as I loved A Little Life but over 400 pages of To Paradise were plain dull.

I also don't get Hanya Yanagihara's obsession about writing about gay men.

I gave it three stars but only because book 3 redeemed it. Otherwise it would have been a solid 1 star from me.

ETA my point about her writing about gay men is because she obviously isn't one. There are scant female characters in her books and I just find it a bit odd.
Yeah I struggled through it too. It was well written but different from anything I’ve read before. Not even in the same league as A Little Life- and I was left unsatisfied with the ending of all 3 stories (also, the middle one was incredibly boring)

I'm not sure what to pick to read next from my TBR. I've just finished Spare (skipped the army bits 😴 and just wanted the tea and fuckery 🤣) I have:

The Paper Palace
Shrines of Gaiety
Bunny
Lessons in Chemistry
Notes on an Execution

I want something a little lighthearted and mindless (hellish week at work) which rules out the last one, even though Lessons in Chemistry hasn't had rave reviews here it might have to be that one.
I want to read all of these!
 
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Thanks! I would be interested to read that

To Paradise was very odd, its split jnto 3 books but none are truly linked, they are just vaguely themematic.

One "book" but more of a novella, centered around poor Hawaiian gay guy is wooed by rich white guy. Another is set in 1893 where being gay is legal and actively encouraged but is full of racism. The third book was best and as a standalone I would give it 4*. That is half told from a female perspective which was refreshing! Although it had vaccines cause autism undertones which was a bit unsettling.
it sadly didn’t have as much discussion as i remembered, she does say this, which seems a very vague response:

“Once again, nearly all the central relationships are homosexual. Yanagihara’s queer focus extends to T. Last spring, in response to a cover of the magazine that featured an eroticized male model wearing lush eyeshadow, a fashion executive jokingly posted, as an Instagram story, “The new OUT magazine looks fabulous in every single way.” I asked Yanagihara if there was a special significance to this aspect of her creative output. She did not find the question meaningful. “I don’t think there’s anything inherent to the gay-male identity that interests me,” she said. “If I were putting on my dime-store-psychologist hat, I would say more that it’s easier, freer, and safer to write about your own feelings as an outsider when cloaked in the identity of a different kind of outsider.”

the whole article is here and does include more mentions of criticism of her for that reason, though not fully addressed. she comes across as a deeply closed off person though, so i wonder if it’s easier to write as a gay man than to address her own sexuality. she mentions in this article not viewing herself as a sexual being. it’s a good read if you want to know more about her:

 
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Yeah I struggled through it too. It was well written but different from anything I’ve read before. Not even in the same league as A Little Life- and I was left unsatisfied with the ending of all 3 stories (also, the middle one was incredibly boring)
The endings were diabolical.

My bookclub doesn't meet in January so we picked it in December to discuss in February knowing 2 months should be long enough for everyone to read it, I'm looking forward to discussing it, but I am already thinking at least half won't have read it 😑
 
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Lessons in Chemistry, just finished. Don’t get the hype at all. It was a slog to finish.
I felt the same. It was okay, but I was just waiting for it to end.

Just finished Carrie Soto Is Back. I think I’m going against the grain by saying it wasn’t really my thing. Too much tennis for me, not enough actual story.

Continuing my A-Z challenge, need a D book next…
Just finished this a few days ago. I love tennis and have enjoyed all her previous books that I've read, but it all felt pretty flat to me.
 
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Finally finished To Paradise. Was very disappointed as I loved A Little Life but over 400 pages of To Paradise were plain dull.

I also don't get Hanya Yanagihara's obsession about writing about gay men.

I gave it three stars but only because book 3 redeemed it. Otherwise it would have been a solid 1 star from me.

ETA my point about her writing about gay men is because she obviously isn't one. There are scant female characters in her books and I just find it a bit odd.
Wow, that’s surprising! You have a point about her focus, I’ve always thought it was peculiar too. I’d love to see her write more female characters.
Don't ever read White Noise by Don DeLillo!
Okay, I won’t 🤣 Is it the book Noah Baumbach adapted for screen last year?
i was honestly googling “does the dog die in lessons in chemistry” halfway through and i think i would have quit the book if he had (sorry for spoiler but hopefully my fellow dog lovers will appreciate it 🤣)
Ugh I know, I hate it when writers kill animals off for drama! I love dogs so I can’t stand reading such things.
 
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I'm not sure what to pick to read next from my TBR. I've just finished Spare (skipped the army bits 😴 and just wanted the tea and fuckery 🤣) I have:

The Paper Palace
Shrines of Gaiety
Bunny
Lessons in Chemistry
Notes on an Execution

I want something a little lighthearted and mindless (hellish week at work) which rules out the last one, even though Lessons in Chemistry hasn't had rave reviews here it might have to be that one.
Really enjoyed The Paper Palace. Not sure I'd call it lighthearted as such, and it's had mixed reviews amongst us. But definitely a good read. One of my faves of last year.
 
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Finished ‘I who have never known men’- if you like dystopian books this will be right up your street

Very bleak and haunting and really stays with you and makes you think.

Very good and would recommend but wouldnt recommend reading if you’re feeling fragile
 
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Finished ‘I who have never known men’- if you like dystopian books this will be right up your street

Very bleak and haunting and really stays with you and makes you think.

Very good and would recommend but wouldnt recommend reading if you’re feeling fragile
I was going to ask how you found the book - I didn't realise you had read it so quickly. It is just so relentlessly bleak and not one to read if you're feeling lonely 😅
 
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I was going to ask how you found the book - I didn't realise you had read it so quickly. It is just so relentlessly bleak and not one to read if you're feeling lonely 😅
It wasnt too long and i didnt want to put it down really as it was quite fast paced and didnt drag like most books in that genre do.

Yes definitely not one to read if you’re feeling like that, not sure what I would have done in that situation

bit annoying we didnt find out what actually happened/where they were but nonetheless still a good read
 
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Reading a memoir by Bette Davis at the moment, a really interesting inside look at Hollywood gone by and an absolute powerhouse of an actress.
 
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ACOTAR has been on my list for ages and I’m going to finally give it a go - has anyone listened to it rather than read it (or have you both listened and read), and would you recommend the audiobook?
 
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Midnight Library I read with a book club. I found it a slog to finish and didn’t keep drawing me back

Agree regarding Lessons in Chemistry, I’ve been afraid to say anything before now as everyone I know loved it. It was long and tedious
The talking dog did my head in
 
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