Don’t the family court usually go by what is advised by CAFCASS which is essentially the information they gather from the SS?
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It’s ridiculous that jurors are subjected to such traumatic information and told to speak to the Samaritans or their GP. She’s right they should have access to a trauma therapist to help them to process their experience.
I think apart from what happened to logan, the worst of this case is that even now none of them will admit to anything, so horrible.
Is anyone watching the programme on ITV about Logan’s murder?
Yes, I’d like to punch that bloody woman hard
Yes and you can clearly see she is faking the crying in the interview. Disgusting evil vile people and that Craig is a fat piece of shite.
and that Craig is a fat piece of shite.She's beyond vile. Makes my blood boil.Yes, I’d like to punch that bloody woman hard
She’s a bloody disgrace. She knows what happened to Logan. Her dramatics on the programme are clear to see.
Just switched it on. What a hard faced witch Angharad is. Makes me sick.
She is so antagonistic. I hope she is scared and looking over her shoulder every day waiting for her next kicking.
She’s a piss poor actress.
I am watching on catch up.
That poor little lad had no chance With these utter animals.
it hurts my heart but it’s going on in every town in every country.
No words.
That poor little lad had no chance With these utter animals.
it hurts my heart but it’s going on in every town in every country.
No words.
Yes very over dramatic. The only genuine emotion she showed was tears for herself. Vile creature.
They are beyond stupid to start with but they still think they can outwit the police, forensics, CCTV and the court system.
Hope every day they spend in prison is frightful.
Hope every day they spend in prison is frightful.
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That BBC article with the juror is interesting, she is absolutely right to they should have proper support in place for jurors. With all that we know about trauma and mental health it is shocking really that it isn’t in place already
The programme tonight was upsetting. I was torn about Angharad during the trial but watching those interviews it is clear that she was guilty, her body language and the dramatics and fake crying. I bet the police were so happy to find enough evidence to charge her with murder.
As for the teen, I feel like he must have some kind of psychological issue. The way he behaved during interviews isn’t ‘normal’. So casual and unbothered, not upset or scared or worried, just very cold. He didn’t even pretend to be upset about Logan. During the trial there was information about his behaviour with his social worker which came across as really strange too,
I’m not trying to make excuses for his part in this by saying he must have issues just trying to make sense of how a kid can be so fucked up.
The programme tonight was upsetting. I was torn about Angharad during the trial but watching those interviews it is clear that she was guilty, her body language and the dramatics and fake crying. I bet the police were so happy to find enough evidence to charge her with murder.
As for the teen, I feel like he must have some kind of psychological issue. The way he behaved during interviews isn’t ‘normal’. So casual and unbothered, not upset or scared or worried, just very cold. He didn’t even pretend to be upset about Logan. During the trial there was information about his behaviour with his social worker which came across as really strange too,
I’m not trying to make excuses for his part in this by saying he must have issues just trying to make sense of how a kid can be so fucked up.
I agree. Let’s face it, those two created that kid’s issues. He was put in care after being beaten by the incubator.
His behaviour has been cultivated by them and whilst he is obviously and correctly accountable, they too are equally culpable. I think the media are being blindsided by his age and the parents are being downgraded in responsibility.
My husband saw the case in passing on the news and didn’t even realise two grown adults (parent and step-parent) were involved because they were so invested in reporting mainly on the 14 yr old. It’s the media’s bloodlust for another Thompson and Venables to sell copy.
I have just watched on catch up. Seeing the 3 of them and their behaviour . I had felt a bit sympathy towards Angharad until I seen her . I had thought she had been coerced by JC but my god seeing her made me realise they were all as bad as each other. I was disappointed with the documentary as I thought there was a lot of footage removed and it just seemed rushed!
There is no mention of their baby, no mention of the woman who Angharad was initially trying to blame. No mention of the youths history, JC violent past. Have social Services written lies in the reports that were presented to family court. JC AW were living between 2 houses so probably claiming benefits separately so why was that violent little tit allowed any where near Logan and his little brother. 5 days and he's calling Angharad Mam....so many unanswered questions.!!!
There is no mention of their baby, no mention of the woman who Angharad was initially trying to blame. No mention of the youths history, JC violent past. Have social Services written lies in the reports that were presented to family court. JC AW were living between 2 houses so probably claiming benefits separately so why was that violent little tit allowed any where near Logan and his little brother. 5 days and he's calling Angharad Mam....so many unanswered questions.!!!
Exactly! I was shocked by how much of a child he seemed. He’d clearly been totally coached and had a horrific life.
Actually, it slightly gave me hope for him. Robert Thompson had a hugely difficult background but has been rehabilitated and turned his life around by all accounts. Venables did not have anywhere near that sort of background or trauma but hasn’t been able to change his life.
Maybe if Mulligan’s issues are nurture, not nature, there is hope he can change? As he will be released at some point, I sincerely hope I’m right.
Genuine question, do you think they really will get a hard time in prison from other prisoners? It would give me a tiny bit of solace to know it will be hell in there for them