Glad it's not just me thinking that. Then when she moved to his side, so awkwardly, that open mouth gesture she did like she was greeting someone seems to be her thing, seen her do it in a few red carpet videos where she's like oh I know that person, they know me, I'm so famous performance. It's really cringey.I think you’re right, I think the woman in the shot asks Alice to move on and when she says she’s waiting for Ioan she is told where she can stand. Then Alice asks a couple of questions that are met with apologetic head shakes. If I was being kind I would say the performative facial gestures are Alice trying to look like she has a purpose there, when actually it’s Ioan’s gig and she should really wait patiently next to him or wait patiently off camera. It’s just not about her and she hates it.
If it's any consolation Alice, you will always have Tattle.She’s so fame hungry. And she’s lost all that now. That’s what galls her about this whole thing. Not necessarily that he left her, but him and his red carpets left her. She will only ever be known as his ex from now on. She won’t be invited to red carpets any more. That stings.
How many kids use the word distress randomly in a conversation? Surely a more common formulation would be that she was upset. There is no clearer evidence that she was coached than this.that was april 2021
Alice: I have to tell my child why I can't protect her.
Ioan: What...you're protecting her from what?
Ella: I want to go home
Ioan: But you are supposed to be with me
Ella:[inaudible, sounds like "but why"]
Alice: But she is a human being. She's supposed to be with you. Yes, we know, but we can see she's clearly distressed. I was already in bed asleep, by the way.
Ella: I'm not pets
Ioan: What?
Ella: I'm not a pet. You're treating me like a pet [some thought she said bitch btw]
Alice: Yeah, it's it's....
Ioan: [laughs] - what? what? what's this?! This is steak and roast potatoes [bit hard to understand]
Ella: I want my drink [drinks]
Alice: Ok. Drink, baby, drink. and uhm....Have your drink and see how you feel, my angel.
Ioan: Yes, everything is FINE. Every-everything is fine. This has started because. I-
Ella: that is NOT the reason.
Ioan: [inaudiable] finish a assignment. I deigned [inaudible, Ella interrupts him all the time]
Ella: He's claiming that he knows what's going on in my mind.
Alice: Yeah, well, I don't really know what.
Ioan: when she was sat here having this lovely steak and potatoes everything was okay, then I said you need to change-
Ella: I was in distresss
Ioan: Now she's [inaudible]
Alice: She's-
Ella: I was! I wasn't showing that I was in distress. Please take me home
Ioan: you are going to have a lovely shower, and sit down-
Alice: Now daddy you sound like a c- ahh, ok
Ioan: Okay?
Thread title there somewhere cookie -If she'd have been a genuine partner, actually helped to take care of the girls and the home while he was working, I wouldn't begrudge her standing beside him on red carpets, award shows, whatever. In the beginning Ioan seemed to be happy to publicly present themselves as a married couple and as a family once the kids came along, and in normal marriages he wouldn't have had that family life without Alice taking care of things at home while he worked, so Imo she would have been within her rights to stand alongside him in public. But I think he was always taking care of her from day 1, and then when they had kids, it was nannies and housekeepers and Alice really did fuck all but become more of a burden and more abusive. And the way she mugs about always playing the fool trying to get all the focus on her is just so cringe. She was never a wife and partner who supported him and deserved that respect and dignity but just a parasite always trying to leach off of him.
Lol at "I'm doing the distress..."How many kids use the word distress randomly in a conversation? Surely a more common formulation would be that she was upset. There is no clearer evidence that she was coached than this.
"Ok angel, after a while fake to your father that you are in distress."
(Hours later)
"Dad, I'm in distress."
"Look mum, I'm doing the distress and he's not twitching."
Mothers little soldier. And ever since Alice took down the photo to crop Ella out of it (surmised at Ella's insistence), she's been love bombing the shit out of Elsie and putting her front and centre.Lol at "I'm doing the distress..."
Ella seemed pretty cluey at a pretty young age about her mother's manipulations and selfishness. I wonder if that's a big part of why Alice kept her out of school for so long, deliberately trying to dumb her down to make trauma bonding her easier. Sadly all the intelligence in the world won't help her much until she's emotionally ready to face the truth about her mother again.
The only one genuinely distressed by this little scam was IG but he kept it together as he's an adult.How many kids use the word distress randomly in a conversation? Surely a more common formulation would be that she was upset. There is no clearer evidence that she was coached than this.
What grinds me about Alice and people like her is that she owes Ioan a fuck of a lot. Let’s forget about her family contribution post childbirth which I agree was zero. Before then she was largely an unemployed and unknown actress. Even her journo pals would have trouble getting a story about her published without the connection to him. She could not afford to live in London or LA.If she'd have been a genuine partner, actually helped to take care of the girls and the home while he was working, I wouldn't begrudge her standing beside him on red carpets, award shows, whatever. In the beginning Ioan seemed to be happy to publicly present themselves as a married couple and as a family once the kids came along, and in normal marriages he wouldn't have had that family life without Alice taking care of things at home while he worked, so Imo she would have been within her rights to stand alongside him in public. But I think he was always taking care of her from day 1, and then when they had kids, it was nannies and housekeepers and Alice really did fuck all but become more of a burden and more abusive. And the way she mugs about always playing the fool trying to get all the focus on her is just so cringe. She was never a wife and partner who supported him and deserved that respect and dignity but just a parasite always trying to leach off of him.
this was already impressive, but I thought his reaction to the incident that mounted to the fake Restraining Order (of which Alice's alts have shared a recording) was even more impressive: After how Ella behaved, which included kicking his dog, verbally abusing and shoving his girlfriend and physically attacking him, he didnt yell at her but just sounded very sad and concerned. And then he ensured once again that they got safely home (all those walkouts where Ioan follows them home simply because he wants them to be safe, despite how they behaved, will come back haunting them if they ever see the light). He has certainly his human faults like everyone, but you have to really admire him for this.The only one genuinely distressed by this little scam was IG but he kept it together as he's an adult.
He has had a lot of practice not losing his cool with Alice. Therefore he didn't rise to the bait with her mini-me. They still try to paint him as abusive though. DARVOing him basically. Look at this doozy.After how Ella behaved, which included kicking his dog, verbally abusing and shoving his girlfriend and physically attacking him, he didnt yell at her but just sounded very sad and concerned.
"now we're all waiting to see how long it takes you to get a job without my help. So far it's been 18 months"He has had a lot of practice not losing his cool with Alice. Therefore he didn't rise to the bait with her mini-me. They still try to paint him as abusive though. DARVOing him basically. Look at this doozy.
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The one who doesn't want to work is the expert in getting other people jobs. LMAO
And using the kids as a sword and a shield yet again and inserting them in the divorce...
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Agreed, not only interact but she seems unable to just be relaxed and waiting for him to finish - she just has to be the centre of attention and that’s it. If she was ok with not being the focus, she could have come up closer (if being on camera so important) and listen to him carefully, looking at him "adoringly", playing this attentive supportive wife. But no, she had to DISTRACT from him, basically photobombing (videobombing? Is that a word?I‘ve never seen this before and although Alice does her usual cringey attention seeking, what struck me is how alone and uncomfortable she looks. Without Ioan she’s nothing. And she hates it. She doesn’t seem able to interact normally.
I doubt any of it was funny to him"now we're all waiting to see how long it takes you to get a job without my help. So far it's been 18 months"
So given that they were at that point only 4 months separated super agent Alice admits that she couldn't get him a job for 14 months?
Funny that 2 months later he did had a new job.
She really believed that her gaslighting was working on him though. He must have laughed his pants off at her messages since the whole claim that he got jobs thanks to her is so hilariously outlandish.
I wonder if Dr LeGagnoux provided any advice or coaching that helped guide Ioan's reaction. God knows I would have completely lost my cool as a parent in that situation.this was already impressive, but I thought his reaction to the incident that mounted to the fake Restraining Order (of which Alice's alts have shared a recording) was even more impressive: After how Ella behaved, which included kicking his dog, verbally abusing and shoving his girlfriend and physically attacking him, he didnt yell at her but just sounded very sad and concerned. And then he ensured once again that they got safely home (all those walkouts where Ioan follows them home simply because he wants them to be safe, despite how they behaved, will come back haunting them if they ever see the light). He has certainly his human faults like everyone, but you have to really admire him for this.
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