Jelly Bean

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He is repulsive and thinks he is far cleverer than he actually is and some sort of wordsmith. I read that nonsense too where he defends never doing any childcare as he sees looking after children as the divine right of women or some such guff. Plus his wife accepts that his mind works on a higher plane so he shouldn't have to change a nappy. He really is such a tedious areshole.
 
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Greatbutton

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Innocent until proven guilty. If people make accusations they can back it up with hard evidence and then in court.
No, the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty is a legal thing. I'm not in a jury so I can read the evidence and think he is a dirty, disgusting scumbag, thanks.

No one who has been assaulted has to prove their assaulter guilty in court. That's not how these things work. If you been assaulted, you have been assaulted, and that's that.
 
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eppingforestbambi

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I know at least one (not really famous) comedian and famous comedian will be shitting themselves today. The comedy circuit is incredibly macho and misogynistic.
There’s another Russell comedian who I would personally like to go to the police about myself, but I feel I’ve left it too late and can’t face the stress of it. Hope he rots in hell though.
 
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Lolly505

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Why is this coming out now though?
Because they've finally got enough evidence and sources to publish without him being able to claim libel. They've been working on this for three years to get testimonies, verify facts, etc.

Apparently they had been at least one other attempt at an exposé at 2018 and he shut it down and got an injunction/superinjunction. Hence all the secrecy and seemingly only telling him yesterday - they're making sure it goes out publically this time.
 
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Yes, the thing is though, Camden at the time you mention did have a certain 'energy' (I'd call it seedy and grubby, hedonistic, perhaps even depraved) and it attracted people, including young women, like moths to a flame. This is sounding like a 'she deserved it' trope and I truly don't mean it to as I'm just making an observation. But I can't help thinking that if you walk into a bear pit you shouldn't be surprised when you get eaten. I was in my early 30s and just watched from the sidelines. It was most unpleasant. Grim. Just like Brand.
Camden is utterly grotty but I assure you, you can get sexually assaulted absolutely anywhere. Including in your soft comfy bed with your husband lying next to you. Human men are not bears with animal urges they have no control over. Women should be able to visit areas of town that have pubs and nightclubs without fearing for their lives and being blamed for the actions of assaulters.
 
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goldie341

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Felt sick this afternoon reading everyone’s reactions and yet can’t seem to stop. I made the first step of reporting mine a few months back then stopped it because I panicked and don’t think I’ll be taking it any further. It won’t go anywhere.

I’m so tired of this world. Sometimes I think about how badly women are treated and it’s like I hit a temporary brick wall wondering how the fuck do we actually live with this, then because I can’t change anything it just sits in the back of my mind, as it does with all women, and I carry on.

Dunno why I’m posting this. This evening is a rough one. Sorry to anyone to who gets it.
 
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Madbadsad

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My thoughts are with the women. How brave to speak up. I hope they feel safe and supported and finally listened to. Also to anyone reading this who is finding it triggering ❤
It seems this has been years coming.
And whatever people are saying about his wife Laura- she is pregnant so must be feeling really vulnerable.
Russel has got away with his charm, ridiculous bamboozling language, power and army of lawyers.
 
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LaBlonde

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I’m not saying women do all the groundwork. I’m suggesting that both genders need to be prepared to come into no man’s land and see each other in a more compassionate way. But clearly that isn’t going to happen.
Do you have any suggestions for how to change things? The disgusting misogynistic culture we live in?
suggestions on how to change things?

i would immediately suggest to stop painting women as hysterical harridans who are going to “scream” at men rather than being capable of having clear and direct conversations with them. rather like you’re doing with the language in your posts don’t you think?!

you already seem to believe that women are screaming and in hysteria while the poor men are just too gentle to listen to it.
 
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Nottsgirl

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Innocent until proven guilty. If people make accusations they can back it up with hard evidence and then in court.
Read the article. They’ve been working on this for four years and have evidence of texts, medical treatment etc. If it does go to court, there’s a good chance he’d be charged. People have been found guilty with less evidence.
 
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judgejohndeed

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I'm really not getting this Danni Minogue thing. Until it turns out she too is a serial rapist/abuser, then if her worst crime is being a bit of a pap chaser, she literally always has the moral high ground over Brand.
 
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Benicasm1

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Sorry but these women truly just wanted to have sex with him just as much as he wanted sex with them.
He didn’t rape them or beat them,he was a young man spreading his seed.
No harm done.
Hold on. One of them he actually admitted afterwards in a SMS that in essense it wasnt really consensual. What about all the jacking off infront of female colleagues? What about shagging 16 yearolds when he was 31 (i appreciate that isnt illegal and nor is joking with Jimmy Saville about using women for pleasure, but still). One company even had to sack female employees, demote them or move them onto other shows as they couldnt trust Brand to do his job without causing chaos trying to shag or pester them.


Whole thing knocked me sick to be honest. At the very best the man is a predator, at worse he is a rapist and potential nonce.
 
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MissPrint

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thedispatches doc was weak… these women all got involved with a well known sex addict , who was crude in his language and comedy!! Did they actually think off stage this man was anything other than what they saw?
Crude and selfish!! He writes about his sexual behavior in his book! He laughed about it .. admitted he was disgusting towards women..
Victim blaming isn’t a good look.

Nobody asks to be SA, nobody puts themselves in a position to be SA, nobody expects to be SA. SA happens because someone is a vile deviant. It was also claimed he was highly manipulative so nothing is as black and white as you would like to think.

If these allegations are true the problem isn’t with the women involved, the problem is 100% the responsibility of the perpetrator, RB.
 
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ThirdWorldGlam

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I read / watch different media outlets to catch a perspective from different points of view about the same topic. That ranges from BBC to ... yep, Russel Brand.

I landed on RB content in 2020 and since then, been watching some of his videos once in a while. I didn't know the folk was a somehow media-journalist now after his MTV days but fair enough, he displayed some absolutely basic opinions about current news but from an "outsider's" perspective. I do not find him smart neither revolutionary, but it's still a different point of view of whatever mainstream media says. I think it's important to understand this to not judge his followers and to attempt to display a more advanced position on what is going on here.

Looking back, Russel Brand made a deliberate re-branding attempt to distance himself from the mainstream media days. For me it was not 100% clear why he stopped working with big media outlets & I am not naive enough to think that someone just walks away from that world, the economical repercussions of going from MTV / Channel 4 to a niche Youtube channel are huge.

It's quite clear now that A LOT of people were not keen on wanting him on any floor and around 2010s the #MeToo vibes were (thankfully) too popular to ignore, I wonder how the conversations went by but it was just a matter of time till the shit hits the fan type of thing & he may have noticed the narrative of "I am sober now and following the steps" was good marketing.

Fast forward to 2020, RB positioned himself as a mixture of a gurú AND a professional journalist / commentator and his accounts exploded in popularity, mostly because there is no mainstream media alternative for those type of opinions.

You are not going to find episodes or news against Bill Gates on the BBC / CNN, a fairly obvious thing but actually, is the whole point.
RB understood his place and time to make his channel work. As he used to be a famous presenter in the past and his content tries to portray a bit of a "smart gurú" image, his following has increased exponentially in comparison with other similar channels.
For instance, if you said you followed David Icke, you were likely going to get a look of :alien: really? - But mentioning Russel Brand? It seemed harmless. He was making content purely about being a contra-information point of view against the (alleged) dangers of the mainstream media and so forth.

Now, I do think both statements can be true here:
  • Big media conglomerates are attempting to shut down some alternative media outlets as this is impacting their businesses quite harshly AND
  • Russel Brand is a rapist & all testimonies are true.
I am sorry your information gurú is a rapist, it kind of says something about the right-wing conspirancy online territories that seem to be really prone to fall for all types of grifters and abusers. My take here is that it could be that 100% of RB videos are true and he is a smart individual fighting against the big media / pharma or whatever, but that does not make him less of a rapist I am afraid.
 
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Loopy83

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Its like people cant see that someone can do good things, fight against big companies and be a total dick at the same time. People want someone to be 100% evil or 100% good. That's not what people are like.
 
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Bastille

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I’m saying it would benefit women to try and see what men have to deal with (constantly being held in contempt or suspicion because they’re male) and then perhaps men would be more likely to try and see women’s struggles as well. Weird how that’s so controversial.
Why do we have to go first?
We're the one's being raped but that's not enough for you? We need to prove we have the 'right to be wary of men' in other ways as well do we?
Try condemning men as strongly as you do Women, Ya know the gender of the rapist doing the raping that is being discussed. "I'm a man, I feel sorry for those Women and I think he's a cunt" then stop, is that so controversial?.

But what you're saying is "Women DO MORE to appease men who haven't raped you when discussing men who have" Fuck off with shit.
 
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