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sburton

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They’ve already had the kids do dozens of ads with all the gifted and discounted stuff they’ve had. They just don’t declare stuff all the time. Those kids have be used for profit since they were conceived.
 
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coconochanel

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Did Alfie do a post for Mothers day for Zoe? (can't blame him if he didn't seeing as she appears not to do much parenting) 🤣
 
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sburton

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🙄 don’t be deliberately obtuse.

My point was very clearly that even with therapy it’s not guaranteed to cure her, like it’s being made out. Like it’s not guaranteed to cure anyone. She’s said she’s had CBT in the past which is what is generally used for phobia treatment. I doubt she never brought up the emetephobia during that.
There’s CBT and then there’s ERP (Exposure with response prevention a very specialized form of CBT). Not all clinicians that offer CBT do this - this is often a speciality and there are clinicians who will only do this. Much like how other doctors specialize, so too this happens in the therapy field. This is where her mountain of resources come into play - she can afford to try multiple things/people. She isn’t forced to go to the one therapist that is covered.
 
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sburton

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No one is saying her phobia isn’t real or isn’t debilitating! They are saying you can get treatment!
Zoe has endless time and a lot of money at her disposal yet has never as far as we know sought specific treatment with a phobia specialist.
For example I have a friend currently being treated for a severe food phobia that is interlinked with a fear of being sick.
Before she started treatment 6 months ago she couldn’t eat any fruit, veg, anything in a sauce, pasta or rice, lentils, pulses and is also vegan so you can imagine how hard it was.
Her treatment started with having to sit with a plate of the new food/ meal she was introducing (for example a vegetable curry) for 30 mins as Fight or flight mode usually lasts for no more than 30 mins. She would then have to eat that meal 20-30 times over the course of many weeks before she was allowed to decide if she liked it or not.
She now eats so many things it’s amazing and has transformed her life!
Given her success I’d be confident that a treatment plan would be out there for Zoe. She just has to want to defeat the phobia.
This exactly!

There are proven treatments for phobias - in particular phobias of the nature Zoe is suffering. It’s not like it’s something that worked for a couple people ever, and is a huge maybe. The biggest thing here is she can 100% afford to seek out some of the best at providing these type of treatments so she can get through this and do better for her kids and hopefully avoid passing on any weirdness with food. She is just choosing not to and that can be so, so dangerous. It’ll also likely hurt her relationship with her kids with mom always skipping out at the sign of illness.
 
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milkyways

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I don’t expect to see Ottie in pink dresses! I just feel sorry for her trying to play in those big chunky shoes. She is a toddler and they dress her like a 1960s child. What’s wrong with leggings and a jumper or T-Shirt to play in!
whats funny is. that this is exactly also a 90s style.
leggings were so cool back then, in all sorts of colours and lengths. a baggy shirt on top.

zoe just say you dont want your children to be comfortable and let it go 🤪😂
 
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milkyways

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A bowl of cereal that she went to the effort of tracking down on amazon cause she couldn’t find them in the shops 😭 she really has no life or anything to do that’s meaningful.
its giving me looking for japanese kitkat, but at least I got an excuse of having no such store near me 🤪
her cereal cant be that exotic that she had to haunt it down online, but also. hope she got it from an actual store and not someone who stored it away for a couple months 😂
 
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milkyways

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So we’ve got to the point w her yt channel that she no longer even speaks throughout filming her day, she just films and when she has a spare min she sits down n tells us what happens whilst multitasking doing her makeup?😂 HOW do these people make money??
help. she has managed to hit a new low.
so impressive tbh
 
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londongirl2001

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alfie uploaded another vlog, and novie is in the thumbnail.
they are becoming the very things they have hated. a family vlogger.
I didn’t think they ever hated it. They also said after officially confirming they were a couple, that they’d never do „Zalfie“ videos/thumbnails and that’s basically all Alfie did for years, before the kids came. They just say what they think sounds reasonable, before doing the opposite.
They used to love hanging out with family vloggers and showed those kids a lot in their own vlogs. Never thought they’d have more respect for their own.
 
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daisy2809

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seriously how much money do they have to buy such expensive cars for each of them
tbh a lot of influencers have cars that cost 150-200k, the same way a lot of 'normal' people have teslas, i wouldn't say zoe and alfie having a tesla is anything special or extraordinary by any means money wise compared to what other youtubers have. they're probably using them as a tax deduction too bc they're electric
 
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coconochanel

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its a lot easier when you=
Have insane wealth (x2)
a huge house
everything gifted
family next door
Can pay for cleaners, gardeners
can afford to order takeaway as often as you like
can afford childcare 247
can get people to come to your house to do your hair, nails, give you a massage
friends come to you
have all the time in the world to take a bath in the middle of the day
have an easy income via property/YouTube/Instagram etc (would add coffee and hoodies, but how much can that all be raking in I wonder)


really.. what’s the big deal.. raising kids is easy right? We’re all in the same boat as Zalfie, surely?… no?


im just jealous. I have zero of the above and kids the same age. It’s fucking tough
Yes but she still hasn't got time to do her makeup and hair! 🤪
 
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GoldSilver

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She makes out she’s so busy yet has time to set up books as props in front of the teepee specifically for a weekly photo? I thought having kids would give her purpose but she’s as lazy as ever
 
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Susspicious

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She looks nice in that frilly denim jacket thing. Brighter coloured, “girly” stuff suits her so much more than beige hoodies and oversized everything that Alfie probably points her in the direction of.
 
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londongirl2001

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Zoe has always used her bestie for views and content, first Louise, then Tanya and now Mark. She would have phased Mark out for Anna (the anna edit) IMO but she may well be the dullest and most boring person on the planet and won’t provide the content or perform for Zoe’s camera. Plus she keeps her kid offline which would be far too much of a stark comparison to the way they exploit Ottie, and thus Mark has been kept around
It was Zoe who revealed when Anna‘s son was born, something Anna had kept secret (not the birth, but she didn’t want to disclose when exactly the baby had been born). Anna is a desperado though so she let it slide.
 
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sburton

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Invisalign (or similar product) can be entirely through an office which can up the costs versus the app route. Invisalign also can come with enhanced risk to teeth if they have to shave down and enamel for them to work for your particular issues. Unfortunately for me an Invisalign like product won’t work since they’d need to shave things down a bit, which I am not willing to do. When I eventually do go and deal with things it’s going to have to be standard braces.

Though I will say I don’t know that the slug realizes what she’s signing up for here, I can see her forgetting to wear them after eating, if she’s supposed to use a retainer I see her not keeping up. Never forget when Alfie was doing similar years ago and always forgot
 
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