How does this work? Has anyone here seen this because I do not understand how they can pull off a young black girl growing into a white woman for example?
But it would be seen as wrong if for example, they made a film about Martin Luther King and cast Brad Pitt to play himI don’t mind diverse casting or blind casting, whatever it’s called. I didn’t have a problem with Anne Boleyn being played by Jodie Turner Smith for example. People who say it’s changing our history I find hilarious because it’s not a documentary. If they were claiming that Anne Boleyn herself was a black woman then yes, that would be stupid. But unless it’s a documentary I don’t mind if things are given a creative license. It also stops the same old same old boring white blonde actresses who seem to be in everything - Margot Robbie? Saoirse Ronan? Kristen Stewart? All I ask is that they can act. And do the correct accent.
I was going to make that point.But it would be seen as wrong if for example, they made a film about Martin Luther King and cast Brad Pitt to play him
If it’s a film/show about his life, a black man leading the civil rights movement, of course you need a black man to play him. Whenever white historical figures have had their stories told through films they’re always played by white actors because often they’re made to look like the real person. However, if it’s a made up tv show it doesn’t really matter if a poc is playing some rich aristocrat, even if it’s highly unlikely that would actually happen, because it’s not real. Same with musicals, I know SIX is based on historical events but it’s a modern retelling, so it doesn’t matter that the cast isn’t completely white.But it would be seen as wrong if for example, they made a film about Martin Luther King and cast Brad Pitt to play him
We know Anne Boleyn was white with dark hair.the only difference is that we all know what MLK looked like, we've heard him speak, we know his voice. He is very much a part of modern history.
Bridgerton is a brilliant example of colourblind casting and it works. It works though because, apart from Queen Charlotte, all the characters are fictional.If it’s a film/show about his life, a black man leading the civil rights movement, of course you need a black man to play him. Whenever white historical figures have had their stories told through films they’re always played by white actors because often they’re made to look like the real person. However, if it’s a made up tv show it doesn’t really matter if a poc is playing some rich aristocrat, even if it’s highly unlikely that would actually happen, because it’s not real. Same with musicals, I know SIX is based on historical events but it’s a modern retelling, so it doesn’t matter that the cast isn’t completely white.
i can’t think of an opinion i agree with more.I believe assisted dying should be legal in the UK
i think the key difference there is that mlk’s race is vital to his story. if he’s played by a white man, then the “point” is lost.But it would be seen as wrong if for example, they made a film about Martin Luther King and cast Brad Pitt to play him
Absolutely. If I saw Brad Pitt had been cast as MLK I'd think the world had gone bonkers.i think the key difference there is that mlk’s race is vital to his story. if he’s played by a white man, then the “point” is lost.
For some people - who lack a proper education - historical dramas are their "history lesson". You and I know that Anne Bolelyn is white but you cannot be sure others doI don’t mind diverse casting or blind casting, whatever it’s called. I didn’t have a problem with Anne Boleyn being played by Jodie Turner Smith for example. People who say it’s changing our history I find hilarious because it’s not a documentary. If they were claiming that Anne Boleyn herself was a black woman then yes, that would be stupid. But unless it’s a documentary I don’t mind if things are given a creative license. It also stops the same old same old boring white blonde actresses who seem to be in everything - Margot Robbie? Saoirse Ronan? Kristen Stewart? All I ask is that they can act. And do the correct accent.
But it’s not the job of the production to educate people. If you’re watching a drama then there will always be creative liberties. From small things to massive things. If a person goes away believing everything they saw is true, that is their fault not the production’s.For some people - who lack a proper education - historical dramas are their "history lesson". You and I know that Anne Bolelyn is white but you cannot be sure others do
When I say accents I mean if you are going to do an English/Irish accent, do it properly. Don’t Dick Van Dyke it.I find it interesting that accents are important to you but how someone looks is not
This used to bug me so much but then I just went with it. So many historical dramas portray outfits hideously wrong. Plus you always get the actress making a comment a it how corsets weren’t feminist or were too restricting to do anything and were painful to wear.AND I want the costumes and scenery to portray the time period on point
We both 100% agree on this point though!UO - Also, Kristen Stewart is a shit actress. Her depth is as deep as a puddle. I am so sick and tired of seeing her sullen / inexpressible face.
My favourite Kristen Stewart performance is her in Panic Room, when she was just a kid! I do feel personally like shes super overrated. Perhaps there is a performance of hers that is great but lesser known as there seems to be lots of people who regard her as a good actress.UO - Also, Kristen Stewart is a shit actress. Her depth is as deep as a puddle. I am so sick and tired of seeing her sullen / inexpressible face.
That's Frozen though.. and musicals in general but I also see this happening in plays. I am an adult and not really into fantasy experiences... which Is why I also mentioned The Glass Menagerie in my initial postI don't really care about this to be honest. Frozen has a talking snowman puppet in it, operated by an actor on stage. If you can suspend your disbelief for that, I think you can suspend your disbelief for the child actors being a different race than the adults. It's a musical on stage, about a woman with magical ice powers. You naturally have to take things with a grain of salt.
I admit I might have a certain interest in these topics seeing as how my partner is an actor (who has played a number of roles differing from their own sexuality and even once gender) however my thought is always it's acting.. it's in the name..I do agree that there should be more diverse casting and was thrilled to see Liz Carr just as a character.. I am also thinking of a disabled male actor whose name escapes me.. as well as times when Peter Dinklage has just played a character without any reference of relevance to his size..However insisting that actors are trans or the same sexuality or disability as the roles just narrows down the casting choices and may even mean that these stories and sections of the community are less portrayed.. and sorry to say would we rather see a actor of lesser ability cast just because they fit the role IRL or do we want to experience the performance of the most skilled professional?I was going to make that point.
It's like when they go on about gay actors should play gay roles. Well, the likes of Luke Evans and Jonathan Bailey make a good living out of playing heterosexual men.
I never get the whole trans actor's should play trans roles or disabled actors should play disabled roles. I do wish that casting directors just generally did more diverse casting. Liz Carr is a good example. She popped up in the last series of The Witcher just as a character. Not a disabled character.
Chas Bono sometimes is cast as a man, sometimes cast as a trans man.
I always thought Six was more of a themed gig.. like a girl band singing songs about history rather than an actual musicall. Same with musicals, I know SIX is based on historical events but it’s a modern retelling, so it doesn’t matter that the cast isn’t completely white.
ditto League Of GentlemenI never got the whole Little Britain thing. I always found it to be childish, unfunny and creepy.
It is a grey area and theatre gets away with a lot more experimentation than TV or films do. Just look at how many female Hamlet's we've had over the years.I admit I might have a certain interest in these topics seeing as how my partner is an actor (who has played a number of roles differing from their own sexuality and even once gender) however my thought is always it's acting.. it's in the name..I do agree that there should be more diverse casting and was thrilled to see Liz Carr just as a character.. I am also thinking of a disabled male actor whose name escapes me.. as well as times when Peter Dinklage has just played a character without any reference of relevance to his size..However insisting that actors are trans or the same sexuality or disability as the roles just narrows down the casting choices and may even mean that these stories and sections of the community are less portrayed.. and sorry to say would we rather see a actor of lesser ability cast just because they fit the role IRL or do we want to experience the performance of the most skilled professional?
I find this topic a tricky grey area personally. Half of me always wants to say it's in the name.. my partner has played gay rent boys. pdophiles, serial killers , middle aged mothers, attorneys,etc etc and he is none of the above
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