I’m sure I recall her once saying he didn’t get home until 8-8.30pm. Plenty of time for a shag in the city then get home and go to bed soon after whilst still pretending it’s all business as usual.
- Status
New to Tattle Life? Click "Order Thread by Most Liked Posts" button below to get an idea of what the site is about:
He was never there. Him leaving her isn't her fault. I would've thought their home life is alright (it's clear Liv loves her girls) and has stayed exactly the same since Dad was never there.
[/QUOTE]
Oh no I didn’t m say it was explicitly her fault, although it’s naive to assume she was without. A relationship breakdown doesn’t happen overnight or out of the blue though (which a lot of the comments on her post seems to suggest).
It’s all speculation, isn’t it. He will never speak on the matter publicly as seems a very private person. He was gone for many hours but he may have been this way when she met him, it’s also allowed her to give up work and have as many children as she wishes, whilst living in very expensive taste. Everything comes at a price.
Equally, her staying at home, holding the fort and providing stability has allowed him to advance his career and earning potential.
Exactly. That will be taken into account. I really hope they can sort it out amicably
I'm always shocked when she talks about the twins waking up at these times every day. I'm not shaming her parenting but the twins are like 5 or 6 ? I'd honestly see a specialist if my kids woke up in the middle of the night for good at this age. Or tell them to stay in bed for the next 2 hours in silence if that's what they want 
Attachments
Yes the twins are school age now. I’d plug them both into a device or plonk them in front of the telly and go back to bed!
4.44am for 6 year olds?!! Nahhhhhhhh it’s the middle of the night back to bed you go
My 3 never woke up that early. And if they had they’d have been told to go back to bed pronto! Liv must be permanently shattered
When I first read this I thought she meant they’d brought her a hot chocolate and I was thinking wow I’d be more worried about them using the kettleI'm always shocked when she talks about the twins waking up at these times every day. I'm not shaming her parenting but the twins are like 5 or 6 ? I'd honestly see a specialist if my kids woke up in the middle of the night for good at this age. Or tell them to stay in bed for the next 2 hours in silence if that's what they want
Agree with what’s been said. I remember when I son was a baby and advice was don’t do anything fun when kids wake up at the crack of dawn. No TV/screens. Just quiet and calm. That way they start the realise there is nothing fun to jump out of bed for at that time.
I do wonder if she’s like this as some kind of martyr. Maybe she struggled with being a stay at home mum and feeling she had to prove to her husband that she worked hard too?
Maybe they go to bed ridiculously early. She's on her own so I wouldn't be surprised if she just wants rid of them by the evening so they go to bed early and then it's a vicious circle. If they're in bed at say 6pm then it isn't unreasonable for them to have had enough sleep by 4.45.
Personally I've always put my kids to bed later to avoid the early starts, but I think in the UK I am in a very small minority!
Personally I've always put my kids to bed later to avoid the early starts, but I think in the UK I am in a very small minority!
Oh I’m same as you. My son goes to bed later so he’ll sleep later. It suits me and my partner best as neither of us can stomach 4.45am
---
Perhaps I would think differently if I was stay at home like liv
. I prefer to keep my boy up as we’re not even home by 6 in the evening and I miss him so want to spend time with him. Maybe I’d feel differently if he was with me 24/7I agree that they are probably put in bed very early in the evening but a 4.45 am start must also mean they’re bound to be dog tired at school in the afternoon. Vicious circle indeed.
I wonder if she started with the ‘go back to bed’/ignore it scenario and it didn’t work (didn’t stick by her guns or a more complex reason), so she decided to just go with it and now it’s years later and she’s stuck.
Mine went through an early waking stage but I did as most do and put them back to bed until they were through it. To be fair though, they were all singletons, so I’ve not got experience of trying to do it with twins. I suspect it’s harder. At one point I had an early waker with a toddler, who used to wake each other up but it’s not the same, they were in different rooms and it was very much a temporary stage.
Mine went through an early waking stage but I did as most do and put them back to bed until they were through it. To be fair though, they were all singletons, so I’ve not got experience of trying to do it with twins. I suspect it’s harder. At one point I had an early waker with a toddler, who used to wake each other up but it’s not the same, they were in different rooms and it was very much a temporary stage.
Yeah they do go to bed early and I think Liv goes to bed at 9.30pm. The husband used to leave the house at 6am (I think) and the kids would wake up at 5.30 and Liv would spend that half hour showering and putting on make up as it made her feel more herself if she had her slap on. Then he'd leave and she'd be on her own.
Im one of those who preferred my evenings to my mornings and so always put my kids to bed early. So I had a few years of 6am starts. But by 4 we were bang on 7.30 and it's 7.30 to this day.
The GroClock was the game changer with us. "No getting out of bed until the clock turns yellow!" I told them they could turn on their light and read a book or play, but it wasn't morning time until it turned yellow. Best purchase ever!
I absolutely dread the teenage years when they're up all evening! I cherish my mental break time every evening, even if nowadays it's not until 9. 30.
Im one of those who preferred my evenings to my mornings and so always put my kids to bed early. So I had a few years of 6am starts. But by 4 we were bang on 7.30 and it's 7.30 to this day.
The GroClock was the game changer with us. "No getting out of bed until the clock turns yellow!" I told them they could turn on their light and read a book or play, but it wasn't morning time until it turned yellow. Best purchase ever!
I absolutely dread the teenage years when they're up all evening! I cherish my mental break time every evening, even if nowadays it's not until 9. 30.
I agree, it must have an effect on them at school though.
---
---
Plus, older teens & young adults are pretty good company.
---
In my experience (my children are all young adults+ now), teens tend to spend most of the evening in the bedroom or out with friends, so I wouldn’t be too worried about losing your ‘you’ time.
---
Plus, older teens & young adults are pretty good company.
My friend had this phase when her kids were like 13 and suddenly wanted to watch "grown up" stuff with them. But of course it meant it had to be family friendly stuff, they couldn't exactly watch Succession like they wanted to!
And then it was "Omg, you're not drinking wine AGAIN?!" when it'd only be one glass of pinot greej every couple of nights.
I used to be absolutely horrified listening to her, lol.
And then it was "Omg, you're not drinking wine AGAIN?!" when it'd only be one glass of pinot greej every couple of nights.
I used to be absolutely horrified listening to her, lol.
When they are teens they never leave their room or are out
so I wouldn’t worry about your evenings. I never see my teen boys x---
When they are teens they never leave their room or are out
so I wouldn’t worry about your evenings. I never see my teen boys x
I have teens and can confirm they absolutely do not want to sit and watch tv with you
- Status