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Wasn't there a clip of the Ukrainian President earlier saying he has intel that he is Putins number 1 target and his family are 2nd. I don't think surrendering would be good for him šŸ˜”
Nor going to Minsk to discuss neutrality with Putin and his cronies.
 
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I would be careful about trusting the Daily Mail on this tbh. They're after clicks and causing panic to get those clicks

This China stuff comes too late, and I wonder whether it was planned to come 'too late' so China would appear 'better'. I saw a tweet which said that the negotiations Putin would want/is seeking is basically just surrender of Ukraine/Kyiv to Russia - calling that as him being open for negotiations is a joke by the media tbh
 
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Do you think we should be more quiet in the press about sending help to Ukraine, I fear this is just winding putin up. But I donā€™t know the best way to approach a complete madman in charge of deadly weapons
Sidle up to him with a pistol, press it to his temple and pull the trigger.
 
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China are as bad as Russia is. Look at the World this last couple of years
 
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Is it these
ā€œVladimir Putin has stoked fears after warning that 'unparalleled' hypersonic missiles are ready for action.

Experts have claimed that he could deploy an arsenal of devastating weapons in his full-scale attack on Ukraine

This includes a number of thermobaric weapons that launch a barrage of fuel-air explosive warheads that can 'melt' an opposing army.

The TOS-1 "Buratino" and TOS-1A "Solntsepek" are seen as some of the more dangerous weapons on the modern-day battlefield.ā€
Surely these violate the Geneva Convention (again)???
 
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Nor going to Minsk to discuss neutrality with Putin and his cronies.
This is the last speech given by Imre Nagy in 1956

"This fight is the fight for freedom by the Hungarian people against the Russian intervention, and it is possible that I shall only be able to stay at my post for one or two hours. The whole world will see how the Russian armed forces, contrary to all treaties and conventions, are crushing the resistance of the Hungarian people. They will also see how they are kidnapping the prime minister of a country which is a member of the United Nations, taking him from the capital, and therefore it cannot be doubted at all that this is the most brutal form of intervention. I should like in these last moments to ask the leaders of the revolution, if they can, to leave the country. I ask that all that I have said in my broadcast, and what we have agreed on with the revolutionary leaders during meetings in Parliament, should be put in a memorandum, and the leaders should turn to all the peoples of the world for help and explain that today it is Hungary and tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, it will be the turn of other countries, because the imperialism of Moscow does not know borders and is only trying to play for time."

He was secretly tried, found guilty and executed, as Fedor Burlatsky, a Kremlin insider, Nikita Khrushchev had Nagy executed, "as a lesson to all other leaders in socialist countries" (wikipedia).
 
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Itā€™s so easy for any of us to sit here and say we would get involved in fighting a war when the reality is none of us have been trained for one and most humans freeze when handed a gun despite believing they could use one.
We are risking returning to WW2 jingoism thinking there is glory in (voluntary) fighting, Iā€™m already seeing the propaganda everywhere.
Being a soldier is a job that many civilians would struggle to do but anger can change people. The Ukrainians must be fueled by adrenaline. We shouldn't underestimate them.

It's also almost certain that these people aren't going back to the normal life they had before.
 
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Iā€™d literally rather end my own life than take the life of another, whether they are the ā€œenemyā€ or not
If your children or other close family members were in the firing line, you might react differently.

No one knows what they would do in a situation until itā€™s actually happening, I canā€™t judge those who stay to flight or flee- I donā€™t know which decision Iā€™d make
 
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I wonder how many of the people in Russia that have no recollection of the Soviet Union (so 40 or under) actually see Ukraine as their own territory? I imagine there's been a lot of people educated with propaganda. At the same time with the internet it's more difficult to get the propaganda to stick.
 
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Being a soldier is a job that many civilians would struggle to do but anger can change people. The Ukrainians must be fueled by adrenaline. We shouldn't underestimate them.

It's also almost certain that these people aren't going back to the normal life they had before.
God, no. We shouldnā€™t.
 
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I think lots of the younger generation in Russia oppose Putin regime. But I think there is a divide with the younger and older people. Older still might feel that they are against capitalism and the west due to their communist ideals deeply ingrained in their upbringing.
 
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If your children or other close family members were in the firing line, you might react differently.

No one knows what they would do in a situation until itā€™s actually happening, I canā€™t judge those who stay to flight or flee- I donā€™t know which decision Iā€™d make
I donā€™t have children to defend, im also a 5ft tall woman and my family members are 6ft tall men. I wouldnā€™t fight, Iā€™d rather end my own life than start a fight I will 100% painfully lose
 
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I get that but if someone's pointing their gun at you and you have a gun the survival instinct would kick in .
Thatā€™s it isnā€™t until youā€™re in that situation I donā€™t think anybody can say how they would react. Survival instinct is strong. I donā€™t kill bugs I value all life but I couldnā€™t say for sure what Iā€™d do put in that situation. And itā€™s just normal people being given guns and to protect themselves and Iā€™m just imagining have to take my 3 children and pack our things with the very real chance of not coming back, itā€™s just heart breaking. Iā€™ve donated to a charity thatā€™s all I know what to do. Iā€™ll support any asylum seekers that come to the uk and donate whatever the charities ask for. I literally do not know what I can do.
 
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I hope there is a huge divide, he'll be cutting off his own nose if he divides the people of Russia.

Lots in the military must believe in it though.
Some blue tickers are saying air traffic is down, is this bs or can the flightradar fans see an impact?

 
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