It’s more comparable to England claiming Ireland as it’s own and look how that wentYes, and Russia wouldn’t allow them to go back to Ukraine, either. The separatists were and are backed by Russia in the first place, and the population has changed radically since 2014. Before then, the split between Ukraniam and Russian people in the separatist controlled regions was similar with a small Ukrainian majority, but around half of the citizens have relocated due to the war so who knows what it’s like now. If there was an opportunity for a democratic referendum, it’s long gone.
I don’t think the England / Scotland example used by the original poster works here because Scotland is already part of the UK, it would be more like England trying to get independent Scotland to join England (or the UK) by backing an armed English separatist group, causing Scottish people to emigrate, and then holding a referendum.
In this hypothetical England vs Independent Scotland scenario, England also annexes the Isle of Skye due to a large English population on the island and brings its army into Scotland to help calm the clashes between England backed armed separatist groups and local, legitimate resistance.Sorry, too much wine tonight!
Just read that Putin has ordered troops into the separatist regions for “peacekeeping operations”
There was mass murder of civilians during Britain’s “peacekeeping” mission in NI. I’m honestly terrified of Russia, I feel like Putin is completely unhinged 
Exactly this. Now Bojo is threatening to weed that money out, bit late.
That's how i look at it but I'm sure I'm simplifying it. Seems to be tensions within Ukraine similar to NI and a religious element.It’s more comparable to England claiming Ireland as it’s own and look how that went
Does anyone know what the financial sanctions the UK are placing on Russia entail?
I guess the big difference is the situation in NI didn’t really affect anyone else so it was very much internal whereas the potential for widespread disaster with this seems inevitable. Everyone of a certain age from NI will have grown up with soldiers on the streets and I for one still suffer anxiety linked to that time. Very scared of what’s to come
Absolutely. The way they've kept those men behind reminds me of internment, there has been talk that they'll be forced to join the militia.I guess the big difference is the situation in NI didn’t really affect anyone else so it was very much internal whereas the potential for widespread disaster with this seems inevitable. Everyone of a certain age from NI will have grown up with soldiers on the streets and I for one still suffer anxiety linked to that time. Very scared of what’s to come
No need to wonder, we all saw how that went. His first impeachment was for applying pressure on Ukraine by threatening to withhold aid, don’t forget. Putin definitely had some hold over Trump, but to what extent we’ll probably never know. There was no need for Putin to do anything as long as Trump was in the White House.
I can't help but think that Putin is only now playing up as Trump is no longer in the white house. He was quiet during the Trump years...
Yep he was seething. Which I don't quite understand as things seem to be going in the direction he wanted. Was he winding himself up over history?
Hes a revisionist so unfortunately its his own version of history. I don't think he wants war, he thought the West would back down to his demands and now he's feeling pushed and to be fair the West have dragged their feet. He can't lose face, he's invaded but its a legal invasion so it'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Where are you getting your news?
I'm really surprised at this. I thought Germany wouldn't get involved because of this wow!
I'm mainly listening to the opinions of expects and plebs alike having lbc and talk radio in the background. Yourself?
