Yet you are not brave enough to point out the real culprit here as its easier to have a go at the people that actually are and label them racists and xenophobic. I would say you are part of the problem as to why these girls couldn't speak up.
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You can say whatever you like about me, I've seen enough posts of yours to decide how much weight to attribute to your opinion.
As I said, two things can be true at once - of course the real 'culprit' for the crimes are the defendants, but using the ordeal of these women to push your own agenda is gross and crass. I don't believe for one second that you'd care half as much about this if those men had been white.
I was referring to the girls affected by the Rochdale gangs. Assuming they must have been racist and xenophobic too.
I am neither racist nor xenophobic. Maybe for you, me raising unpalatable truths equates to weaponising the experience of victims of grooming gangs in areas of the country. But it is a fact that the victims were exploited and were failed by professionals with a duy of care to protect them.
Nobody said they are. I would suggest actually reading what you’re responding to.
grape is grape. Paedophiles are paedophiles. Yet a certain demographic believes that their God allows them to do what they like to women whether they are of legal age or not.
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I did and my point still remains. You are part of the problem.
Yep that is indeed a fact, one you're now adding in to distract from the fact you brought up these cases in relation to a conversation about race. The inference I've drawn from that is the natural one IMO.
Is the real issue not around sustainability and how many people the UK can realistically support? That's not just in regards to those seeking asylum but to everyone who lives in the UK or wants to emigrate here.
"But the problem is neither immigration nor a particular racial or religious group. The problem is the incompetence of those tasked with protecting the most vulnerable in our society and a criminal justice system that is geared to fail all victims.
Indeed, there are countless white, British-born men abusing girls and getting away with it in this country. In fact, the majority of child abusers in the UK are white men, most of whom are never reported to the authorities let alone prosecuted and jailed. The police forces working in areas with large Muslim, South Asian populations being reluctant to go after predominantly Muslim, South Asian grooming gangs in fear of accusations of racism is just one part of the problem. In many cases, girls subjected to such abuse, no matter the racial and religious background of their abusers, are not believed by the police – and at times they are even blamed for what happened to them."
www.aljazeera.com
Indeed, there are countless white, British-born men abusing girls and getting away with it in this country. In fact, the majority of child abusers in the UK are white men, most of whom are never reported to the authorities let alone prosecuted and jailed. The police forces working in areas with large Muslim, South Asian populations being reluctant to go after predominantly Muslim, South Asian grooming gangs in fear of accusations of racism is just one part of the problem. In many cases, girls subjected to such abuse, no matter the racial and religious background of their abusers, are not believed by the police – and at times they are even blamed for what happened to them."
The UK’s grooming gangs and the lessons never learned
It is high time for Britain's criminal justice system to stop failing vulnerable girls victimised by predatory men.
Don't ruin their rhetoric with your dangerous facts!"But the problem is neither immigration nor a particular racial or religious group. The problem is the incompetence of those tasked with protecting the most vulnerable in our society and a criminal justice system that is geared to fail all victims.
Indeed, there are countless white, British-born men abusing girls and getting away with it in this country. In fact, the majority of child abusers in the UK are white men, most of whom are never reported to the authorities let alone prosecuted and jailed. The police forces working in areas with large Muslim, South Asian populations being reluctant to go after predominantly Muslim, South Asian grooming gangs in fear of accusations of racism is just one part of the problem. In many cases, girls subjected to such abuse, no matter the racial and religious background of their abusers, are not believed by the police – and at times they are even blamed for what happened to them."
The UK’s grooming gangs and the lessons never learned
It is high time for Britain's criminal justice system to stop failing vulnerable girls victimised by predatory men.
People make out it's about that and maybe for some of them it genuinely is but for others it very much is not.
And incidentally if you're coming at it from the point of view of the burden on the health service, one of the biggest burdens on the health service right now is the ageing population. Not immigrants.
Can we have the link for this because without the context we have no idea what it's referring to or the wider context and I don't really trust your ability to present facts objectively if I'm honest.
I believe its this
What do we know about the ethnicity of sexual abuse gangs?
FactCheck looks at what we know about the ethnicity of sexual abuse gangs.
www.channel4.com
Thanks, looks like you're right. So not sure what the point is in posting some random statistic from there. Shall I do one too?I believe its this
What do we know about the ethnicity of sexual abuse gangs?
FactCheck looks at what we know about the ethnicity of sexual abuse gangs.
100 per cent of recorded Type 2 group offenders, who abuse children because of long-standing paedophilic interest, are white.
At some point people might want to think that the thing that almost all these offenders actually have in common is that they're male.
Unless they claim to be a women of course and statistics are amended accordinally
Well yes, and I don't agree with that and I never have.Unless they claim to be a women of course and statistics are amended accordinally
But the point still remains - the factor here that binds these offenders together is sex.
I'm coming at it genuinely from that point of view. My great grandma isn't British and came to the UK via boat from India in the 1920's..1930's? I'm not exactly sure.
Anyway, my point is is that the real issue is sustainability. The UK can't sustain the population it has now. Like you said, an aging population that clogs up the NHS is a good example of this.
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