UK General Election 2024 #2
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Could Reform win the election? Like do they have enough MP candidates?
Anyone paying income tax should have the right to vote.
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Not this one
New money, Hyacinth Bucket types more than likely. Always worse snobs than the old wealth/aristocrats/gentry types who happily send their kids to the village primary until they get to secondary age.
I tend to think we should have one age of majority/adulthood and stick with it. I keep seeing gen z types argue that they should be treated as children effectively until they are 25 as thatās when brains develop fully. At the same time they want high paid jobs and responsibility. I donāt mind if itās itās 16 but then weāve decided thatās the adult age
Re: voting age, if there is a lower limit should there be an upper limit as well? It's weird that we don't let a 16 year old vote if they're in full time employment and contributing to society yet a 78 year old with dementia who no longer knows how to put their shoes on can.
I donāt really agree with an upper limit as many older people remain very mentally alert. I think we get into dangerous territory if we start deciding whoās competent to vote or not but Iām going to check on the rules re learning disabilities as this is gap in my knowledge. I think we can agree āchildrenā shouldnāt vote but we need to decide the boundary here
EDIT: I donāt agree with Labour pledge to make members of the House of Lords step down at 80 but Iām glad theyāre not abolishing/replacing it
EDIT: I donāt agree with Labour pledge to make members of the House of Lords step down at 80 but Iām glad theyāre not abolishing/replacing it
If any party change voting to 16 will they also change the school leaving age, smoking, alcohol, gambling, obtaining credit etc?
My Grandma is 99 god bless her, but she does not remember what she ate an hour ago (always mince and potatoes with pudding and custard if you ask, this can be even when itās been something as exotic as pizza!)
Donāt want to stop her voting tho (I say that because fortunately she always votes Labour, itās the diet of mince and potato that does it)
A 16 year old can legally have sex and produce a child. How do you define a āchildā? People used to marry at 14 and lower.
I quite like the idea of giving people aged 16 the vote if it encourages schools to teach them about issues that they need to beware of when they leave education.
I am sure that there are many 16 year old who can make well informed decisions when it comes to casting a vote and many adults who canāt.
If 16 year olds can't vote or be charged as an adult, why do we allow them to work?
I don't think changing the voting age should mean any other distinction between children and adults needs to change too.
We already treat them like halfway between kids and adults and many policies will directly affect them. They should be able to have a say. Parents rightfully vote based on what might impact their small children, so why can't young adults who are contributing to society vote on what impacts them?
In many ways, we already expect them to have some form of independence so it shouldn't be left to people just 2 years older to decide how their lives are shaped.
I don't think changing the voting age should mean any other distinction between children and adults needs to change too.
We already treat them like halfway between kids and adults and many policies will directly affect them. They should be able to have a say. Parents rightfully vote based on what might impact their small children, so why can't young adults who are contributing to society vote on what impacts them?
In many ways, we already expect them to have some form of independence so it shouldn't be left to people just 2 years older to decide how their lives are shaped.
Iām not against votes at 16, just that we should decide thatās adulthood for other things as well. I donāt see why it depends on it being taught in school. Itās one of my bugbears that many people seem to think if something isnāt ātaught in schoolā then how could they possibly be expected to know it
EDIT: also it feels a bit obvious that some of this is coming from a position that the young vote left (good) and the old vote right (bad) which Iām not a fan of
EDIT: also it feels a bit obvious that some of this is coming from a position that the young vote left (good) and the old vote right (bad) which Iām not a fan of
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duck that, we need change but that would leave us even deeper in the tit.Bring back Corbyn for PM
Personally Iām up for a bit of chaos with Ed Miliband!Bring back Corbyn for PM
This. They just don't bother with it.
They have enough candidates, but realistically they won't get anywhere near 326 seats for a majority.
The age of criminal responsibility in England, NI and Wales is 10. So I'm guessing you're okay with 10 year olds having the vote then?
The arguement is that 16 year old donāt know much about what goes on in the big bad world so surely it makes sense to teach them more about mortgages, domestic finance, political theory etc?
As for younger people more likely to vote Labour, we have an aging population and we are told that older people are more likely to vote Tory. Hypothetically that would balance out.
I havenāt heard Labourās argument yet but, knowing a few 15 year olds I would worry about them voting soon! If they want to lower it why not 17? Not quite as radical but still ticks a box.
I remember when the voting age was 21. I also remember how clueless I was back when I was 21!
My dad has voted precisely once, in 1983, 3 years before I was born, so I'm not sure that would help in my case
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