I thought Catherine was going to be named as the original person who made the comments from the way in which the book was being publicised before it was published. It was just so negative about her.
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to be fair, the royal family as an institution is… pretty racist.
they don’t champion diversity in the royal households. Every single private secretary of the Queen’s and Charles have been upper middle class/aristocratic, white and male. I can’t think of a single private secretary for any of them that has been an ethnic minority, and I can only think of one woman (Camilla’s private sec).
Charles’ close friends are exclusively white. None of the royal family are friends with racial minorities, or people from a working class background. Not even Harry.
the history of the royal family itself is based on the fact that, by birth, they are better than everyone. And the royal family were the poster child for colonialism. Whose picture was put up in colonial offices around the world? The monarch’s.
so I’d disagree that Charles has worked with ethnic minorities all his life.
turning up to an event, when the red carpet has been rolled out for you and racial minorities are present - is not the same as working with them. Having a charity in your name or patronised by you, isn’t the same as working with racial minorities.
I think Meghan mark is conscious of all of the above and has definitely weaponised it against Charles et Al.
in hindsight, you have to wonder why she mentioned it to Oprah. It’s like they created the scandal to hold over Charles, maybe for money? As a USP to hype up future book sales? With the threat they’d reveal his name for their personal benefit.
I don’t know what was supposed to have been said, but if Charles had made an insensitive comment about the colour of Archie’s skin, then surely a response along the lines of “I just wanted to let you know that that comment was hurtful to me, and felt racist” in private, was more appropriate?
Repeated, conscious, racist behaviour is surely of interest to the general public, but a one-off gaff that you don’t think is racist (according to Harry) is hardly worth mentioning when you know how inflammatory it is? When it’s a close family member who deserves the benefit of the doubt in this instance? When the comment could equally have been as innocent as it could have been sinister?
if Harry and Meghan were truly concerned about racist behaviour in the royal family - why wouldn’t they highlight the lack of diversity in senior positions in royal households? Because they don’t care about racism. Not really. They care about themselves and their personal experiences, not wider issues.
I have a feeling it’s Catherine because the Dutch journalist who has revealed all this said the first name is crystal clear (Charles) and the second is slightly more ambiguous.
There was a story the other day that said in the letters between Meghan and Charles, Charles encouraged Meghan to talk to the Princess of Wales about how she felt, which could be the more ambiguous one.
There was a story the other day that said in the letters between Meghan and Charles, Charles encouraged Meghan to talk to the Princess of Wales about how she felt, which could be the more ambiguous one.
THANK YOU! That is exactly what I thought might have happened. If anything this conversation is actually the one that definitely should have happened. There most definitely was a lot of ugly racism in some parts of the internet around M. So realising that this also could be true for their baby and talking about a strategy should have been a priority. No parent should read tit like that about their child and no child should be subjected to it. Ever.
I don’t think M was ever an Escort/Yacht girl. Looking for a high class boyfriend/husband? Maybe. But that’s not the same. And even if. As long as she did it out of her own accord it’s nobody’a business.
Working against racism doesn’t necessarily equal not displaying casual racism when it’s about your own family or having tons of unnoticed racial bias.
BUT having only white friends is not exactly a sign for being a racist either. If anything- going out and explicitly befriending someone to diversify your background is pretty racist in my opinion. If they make an effort NOT to meet POC that’s different. But if you just don’t meet one and hit it off that’s not racism. Charles meets a lot of people from different backgrounds/religions/skin colours. But that’s for work. Non of these people are going to be his friends. Same for the white people he meets in those instances.
The question of staff is a different one. I am not sure how I stand on quotas. But I am not against preference by colour to diversify when you have two people with the same capabilities applying. It’s complicated though. There are only a few top jobs and if no POC apply there is not much you can do apart from headhunting. But the most jobs are lower staff. Don’t think having a big mass of POC working as footmans and maids for a white RF would be a good look to be honest. It’s definitely a topic that needs dealing with, but the RF need to tread category and create a good set up.
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The problem is: Archie won’t see that. Archie and Lili will have had (hopefully) loving parents and will have grown up with their side of events. They will never ‘see’ the other side
That pic you posted, Scobie clearly likes a bit of whitening cream too. Who is he? Whats his background? I smell a rat. If there are 'dark forces' who would love to bring the BRF down I imagine it could be pretty easy to gain the confidence of H&M if one was directed to do so, especially with their IQ's as they are.
So you know every single friend that they all have?
Also I think in the past the "top" roles in their team required very specific knowledge of the etiquette, history etc of the role of Monarch. Who is likely to have that knowledge? People who have grown up in similar families or been to school in those idiot highly selective schools. I'm not excusing the pale,male,stale recruitment but it does explain why historically I imagine it has happened.
Charles once famously had a crush on one of the 3 Degrees, a person of mixed race I believe. The Price's Trust has also supported thousands of disadvantages people from all backgrounds, races and cultures. He also wanted (though was thwarted) of being known as "Defender of Faiths" didn't he?
I'm not his fan, I find him petty, petulant and pointless, but racist? Nope I don't think so.
Being a racist is not as black and white (sorry…) I‘m afraid. I’m sure, few people would say about themselves „I‘m a racist.“ But racist expressions or behaviour can easily happen to all of us. So King Charles maybe is not a racist, but especially with his age and class background, I can very much imagine him saying racist things.
Interesting it is supposedly Charles and Catherine.
One who cut off his petulant son and his grifting wife, and another who is married to the brother is who is actually the heir to the throne and someone Meghan was actively sucking up to at the beginning and whining about later when Catherine didn't want to be her close confidante. It is a little too convenient that it's arguably the two people in the royal family that Meghan has the most problems (mostly jealously in Catherine's case) with.
One who cut off his petulant son and his grifting wife, and another who is married to the brother is who is actually the heir to the throne and someone Meghan was actively sucking up to at the beginning and whining about later when Catherine didn't want to be her close confidante. It is a little too convenient that it's arguably the two people in the royal family that Meghan has the most problems (mostly jealously in Catherine's case) with.
I mean, Kate and Wills have to be pretty pissed off at Charles for putting all this in a damn letter to Meghan. Did he learn nothing from the tonnes of times royal letters have leaked?
I don't think this will be particularly damaging, most people either don't care or can see it for what it was, a normal family discussion about what the new baby will look like. I always presumed any "concerns" were more about how he would be treated by the press than what colour his skin actually was.
I don't think this will be particularly damaging, most people either don't care or can see it for what it was, a normal family discussion about what the new baby will look like. I always presumed any "concerns" were more about how he would be treated by the press than what colour his skin actually was.
I know Charles is very fond of letter writing but you’d think he would have been wary of writing it in a letter to M after what happened with the letter she wrote to her father!
Are the names not allowed to be published in the UK? I think it’s pretty silly that, in this day and age, stories like this relating to the royal family are censored for UK audiences.
There probably isn't an official moratorium … it will be a gentleman’s agreement/not wanting to get dumped from the official rota.
So much they say is nonsense and they’ve backtracked on this subject that it’s not silly if it isn’t true.
I agree, I also noticed that when the black preacher was taking part in Harry and Meghan's service the Royals looked uncomfortable and Eugenie and Beatrice exchanged eye rolling. If they were present at some wedding in the Caribbean or in a black gospel Church in Britain they would been okay but as part of THEIR wedding it wasn't. And yes they are very elitist. I recall working with someone who was desperate to get a job at Buckingham Palace. She was middle class, well spoken and had attended a grammar school but she didn't even get an interview, she had a lot of experience of working in Members of Parliament's offices and was very good and efficient, but from the wrong background,not their kind of gel obviously. Maybe things will change gradually eg Prince Edward's daughter does work in a garden centre in the holidays I gather, that will bring her closer to ordinary people from various backgrounds but even when they DO work most of the Royals work in prestigous art galleries etc.
Is the Prince’s Trust still operating now Charles is King?
Yes he did have a crush on Sheila Ferguson of 3 degrees and his circles it would be okay to have an affair or one nighter with her but for her to be Queen NO NEVER!!!
I'd bet my house it's along these lines.
Is there any family out there that hasn't speculated on what a baby will look like and whose genes it will inherit? My husband and I are very different and we'd often talk about whose eyes the baby would have. Would they be dark like their father or or pale and pasty like me. For the record, he's genes were far stronger than mine and my daughter is his double. ) I reckon they've also discussed if George will go as bald as William.
As for Catherine, Scabby can't say enough bad about her. It's quite the infatuation he has.
It’s because it’s unproven and therefore slander. Any respectable news source that published it would most likely to subjected to a defamation case. Nothing to do with censoring a UK audience and all to do with our slander laws being way more rigid than other countries.
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