I can see why people would be attracted in the first place. He isn’t ugly, has a cute smile and I imagine he’s quite funny on first meeting which always goes a long way with women. What I can’t understand is how anyone could put up with it beyond a few dates and his true self comes out.How can I put this carefully, but you wouldn’t imagine Caroline Flack would have found Harry attractive if it wasn’t for his title. I am not sure the romance was at all serious on her part.
According to the Mail, H has been written out of the coronation script.
I don’t see it myself, I see him as a jealous, spoilt brat that didn’t get what he wanted so he’s going to try and ruin it for others. Even if he were suffering PTSD it doesn’t give him the right to destroy others MH, which no doubt he has done and is doing with his constant vitriol. To wrap him in bubble wrap (which he pretty much has been his whole life), is allowing him to continue to hurt others and making it acceptable, which it should never be.I just saw an ex soldier on sky news saying that Harry has PTSD and we should be wrapping him up in a bubble instead of criticising him and that his self destructive behaviour is a cry for help. I think he could have PTSD but it's a bit unfair to PTSD sufferers to blame all his behaviour on that. He clearly has a nasty, petty, vindictive side.
I hope the interviewers ask him some proper questions next week. Surely they'll look like idiots if they don't now that there's so much negative info out there.
Gosh he’s got such a superiority complex. The way this reads it sounds like William was desperate for something to work, just be amicable with his brother again and for them both to be happy in their respective lives. From the extracts there doesn’t appear to be any point where he accepts he could have handled it differently or his family were right. He sees Meghan through such rose tinted glasses he can’t accept she’s done anything wrong and is willing to fight to the death of that. Why would anyone want to be his or her friend after this?There's a fresh round of revelations in all the papers now. I actually don't know how Harry shared this account of their conversation after Philip's funeral. It's heartbreaking and it just makes me feel sorry for William. It sounds like a family trying to get through to someone in a cult or something. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20973036/william-lunged-harry-philip-funeral/
I feel really sorry for William after reading the latest articles. He just sounds desperately worried about Harry. And Harry is writing about these events as an example of William being wrong or unable to understand him but all he's doing is making William sound better and himself sound like a blind fool.I don’t see it myself, I see him as a jealous, spoilt brat that didn’t get what he wanted so he’s going to try and ruin it for others. Even if he were suffering PTSD it doesn’t give him the right to destroy others MH, which no doubt he has done and is doing with his constant vitriol. To wrap him in bubble wrap is allowing him to continue to hurt and destroy others which should never be acceptable.
The dog bowl was from IKEA. Apparently, according to Harry in this very book, that’s all he and Meghan could afford.I'm not sure about a recap, but I'm still waiting for:
What exactly was the dog bowl? Must have been made of fine bone china to break when Harold sat on it.
Why are there no photos of willy in the leopard print leotard? Maybe you could wipe the internet of things back then, but they must still be floating around?
Was it a pearl necklace that snapped?
Carry on here folks ... can't be doing a recap because that would take up the next 52 pages
I always thought the Royals gave each other crap presents at Christmas. Maybe it's a bit much to give a kid a biro but Harry needs to let go of some things. Any wonder he's the way he is when he can't let go of anything.
if she ever divorces him and wants custody of the kids then this book is her evidence, he's admitted to drug use and talking to the deadBut surely she read his book. Why didn't she say something? I thought she came across better than him in the Oprah interview and he came across like a spoilt brat but she can only help him so much with an interview. He still has to sit there and answer the questions. But with a book you have months to edit and refine what you're saying so that you come across well. The ghost writer and editor had no vested interest in Harry coming across well but why did Meghan not intervene?
Oh god no. He’s WORSE when he smiles. Such weird teeth. Looks just like Wallace & Gromit.I can see why people would be attracted in the first place. He isn’t ugly, has a cute smile and I imagine he’s quite funny on first meeting which always goes a long way with women. What I can’t understand is how anyone could put up with it beyond a few dates and his true self comes out.
From what people are saying on here about his actions it sounds like he was destroying other people's mental health before he was in Afghanistan.I don’t see it myself, I see him as a jealous, spoilt brat that didn’t get what he wanted so he’s going to try and ruin it for others. Even if he were suffering PTSD it doesn’t give him the right to destroy others MH, which no doubt he has done and is doing with his constant vitriol. To wrap him in bubble wrap (which he pretty much has been his whole life), is allowing him to continue to hurt others and making it acceptable, which it should never be.
And on Harry:
- He insisted on more support, more acreage in hotels than any other member of the royal family. When he went to Davos he had a bigger chalet than everyone else, and everyone went, ‘Why?’ His sense of entitlement was off kilter.”
- He had always received much more of her attention than his siblings... his classmates found him big-headed, arrogant, and deluded about his own intelligence. He experienced more coddling than Charles.
- His decreasing relevance to the Crown drained his vitality and self-esteem.
Same mistakes in both of the spares.
- Harry seems to be QE and Charles' favorite due to his spare status.
- Harry became a commissioned officer at Sandhurst just months after William graduated from St. Andrews. It pleased Harry no end that his older brother would have to salute him.
- QM left 14million to H & W, with more going to H as he was the spare and wouldn't have money like W.
So further down the pecking order but top for entitlementSomeone on Reddit has done a summary of a few recent royal books, of note on Andrew:
And on Harry:
Same mistakes in both of the spares.
It makes sense, really. Both Andrew and Harry have been reported as the Queen's favourites, which in itself can lead to some messiness of entitlement.So further down the pecking order but top for entitlement
It seems like the monarchs often have more difficulty connecting with the heir than the spare.It makes sense, really. Both Andrew and Harry have been reported as the Queen's favourites, which in itself can lead to some messiness of entitlement.
I think the concept has always been that the heir to the throne should learn to be responsible, learn proper decorum, and generally be prepared to be the ceremonial head of state.
The next down the chain has the benefit of freedom - they have all the privilege, money, and opportunities, but are held to a lower standard of behaviour, and their excesses are excused. Instead of keeping their worst behaviours hidden (as the heir is expected to generally manage) they can be a little wilder in the public eye.
Unfortunately, that freedom is hard to see as yet another privilege when your intellect is set by generations of inbreeding, and when you've got neither the empathy nor the experience to recognise how much better you have it than almost everyone else.
George V was extremely harsh towards towards Bertie (George VI) which among other things just made his stutter infinitely worse.It seems like the monarchs often have more difficulty connecting with the heir than the spare.
Heirs are essentially waiting for them to die, so then they can inherit the throne. The monarch is acutely aware of this, having done the same with their own parent. That must hit them. The heir grows relatively more independent as a result, and the press officers are far more interested in grooming them into a polished product so they tend to be more suited to the role.
Spares are sympathetic characters to the monarch, and as well they're a child who is not waiting for them to die so there isn't that same cloud over their relationship. They're indulged, leaving them immature and childish, and this continues as long as that monarch lives. They resent the heir, because the public perception of them isn't in line with the favouritism they get within the RF. Once their sibling ascends the throne, that means the parent is dead, and the sibling likely has children by this point making them utterly irrelevant as they're below their nieces and nephews in line. They aren't allowed to get paying jobs while working as a royal, and are then dependent on how much their sibling is willing to give them as their part of the soverign grant, and they're unlikely to be happy no matter what that figure is.
Queen Victoria wrote that one of her spares, Arthur, was “dear, dearer than any of the others put together". She had a horrendous relationship with Edward who'd go on to be king.
King George V was particularly harsh towards Edward, his heir. He was less harsh to George VI, who was his spare.
King George VI actually flat out called QE his pride, but Margaret his joy.
And then Andrew, and now Harry. They need to ensure Charlotte and Louis don't go the same way - whether that's telling them early on not to expect to be sustained as working as a royal for life and allowing them half in half out so they can earn their own money, or simply not having spares from this point on.
It seems like the monarchs often have more difficulty connecting with the heir than the spare.
Heirs are essentially waiting for them to die, so then they can inherit the throne. The monarch is acutely aware of this, having done the same with their own parent. That must hit them. The heir grows relatively more independent as a result, and the press officers are far more interested in grooming them into a polished product so they tend to be more suited to the role.
Spares are sympathetic characters to the monarch, and as well they're a child who is not waiting for them to die so there isn't that same cloud over their relationship. They're indulged, leaving them immature and childish, and this continues as long as that monarch lives. They resent the heir, because the public perception of them isn't in line with the favouritism they get within the RF. Once their sibling ascends the throne, that means the parent is dead, and the sibling likely has children by this point making them utterly irrelevant as they're below their nieces and nephews in line. They aren't allowed to get paying jobs while working as a royal, and are then dependent on how much their sibling is willing to give them as their part of the soverign grant, and they're unlikely to be happy no matter what that figure is.
Queen Victoria wrote that one of her spares, Arthur, was “dear, dearer than any of the others put together". She had a horrendous relationship with Edward who'd go on to be king.
King George V was particularly harsh towards Edward, his heir. He was less harsh to George VI, who was his spare.
King George VI actually flat out called QE his pride, but Margaret his joy.
And then Andrew, and now Harry. They need to ensure Charlotte and Louis don't go the same way - whether that's telling them early on not to expect to be sustained as working as a royal for life and allowing them half in half out so they can earn their own money, or simply not having spares from this point on.
I’m sure the Royals are going to take kindly to be compared to Muslim fanatics like ISIS, who are described as a ‘death cult’.“maybe we were a death cult”.
Yeah it does make his “I just want my father and brother back” seem laughable doesn’t it.How can William and Charles ever have a relationship with Harry going forward after he has revealed so many conversations, including their secret code? There can be no trust there at all now.
For all Harry’s moaning about leaks and briefing against him and Meghan by the various other palaces it has never veered into this personal stuff.
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