Have you asked her how she is perceived by strangers though? Because that is the issue with race. It's not that your friends ' dont see colour' or that you yourself see yourself as English, but the way the colour of your skin and ethnic background impacts on the way you are treated by society. Have you asked your friend how many times shes been asked where shes really from, for example? I do find it hard to believe that Meghan Markle would have received some of the unhinged comments she has received if she was white. They are off the scale and all the ' I cant take to her, I dont know why...'?? I dont know her and the fact that she has married into such an archaic and anachronistic institution as the Royal Family when Harry's previous girlfriends had more self respect doesn't say much, but she has been bullied and abused, some of it racially and as a pOC and mother of mixed race children, makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
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I think PP must have been unwell at home for some time . Not sure if it was this thread that someone posted that they had heard rumours from a reliable source to expect a death in the RF in the near future.
yep it was here a couple of pages back
We we’re sitting outside a cafe together and the waitress asked where she was from and my friend’s response was “(insert her home town), England)”.
Of course people see that she looks Asian, but it doesn’t seem to bother her, she had never been discriminated against.
She has some other issues.
I don’t disagree that some negativity towards MM might be racially motivated, but I believe it is mainly her that makes people dislike her.
Maybe also the cultural clash between her Californian style and the English upper class?
I for one didn’t warm to her, I don’t like the preaching and the interview in Africa was not ok in my opinion
Yeah, I saw that post as well.
Tbf he's been looking very unwell for some time now, especially when you compare his appearance to the Queen.
I honestly agree. I don't think people woke up one day realised she was black and decided that they dislike her - though I'm sure some did. Her behaviour in the past and present, and Harry is included in this, makes her/them an easy target if you're already not a general fan of the Royal Family (and I'd say many Brits are not). We seem to be very used to the Family performing their duties, releasing the few photos or visiting some countries, but not being a massive deal in general. These two, on the other hand, seem to be aspiring celebrities of sorts.
I'd say the only redeeming quality Harry has is that he was part of that traditional lifestyle for sometime, apart from the party years and the army days, though then the media attention was 'good' but rare, so people aren't so quick to hate on him.
What do we think about removing his ability to wear his uniform? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-Queen-agrees-stripped-Royal-patronages.html
I don't think it's ok to refer to Asian people as exotic looking. It's a bit 1940s.
Yes. He was only playing anyway.
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Just seen this.
www.express.co.uk
Harry 'self-isolating' as he readies for UK return amid Philip fears
PRINCE Harry is reportedly self-isolating at his mansion in California in case his grandfather Prince Philip's condition goes downhill and he has to rush back to the UK.
Quick bit of PR, because talking about your tell all with Auntie Oprah whilst Grandpa is on the way out might make you look a bit bad.Just seen this.
Harry 'self-isolating' as he readies for UK return amid Philip fears
PRINCE Harry is reportedly self-isolating at his mansion in California in case his grandfather Prince Philip's condition goes downhill and he has to rush back to the UK.
I wonder what they're doing with PP that they couldn't do in Windsor? I noticed during the crown King George vi had surgery in Buckingham Palace.
Not much - minor surgery can be done at home, but most of the Royals have been into hospital for procedures these days. Oxygen etc could be done at home.
Does suggest something serious - most specialists don't want their patients near hospitals at the moment unless its absolutely urgent.
I was always amazed that she married him unless they bonded over horses etc and she wouldn't believe the warnings. He was probably on a charm offensive and she would be 'a good catch' for him as another Arab royal; I don't believe that his other wives are of the same status.
The Jordanian royals have been westernised since the 1920s and are very strongly linked to the UK. In fact, not long after Princess Beatrice's private wedding, there was another royal wedding in England when Princess Raiyah, Haya's youngest sister, married Ed Donovan, son of Tessa Dahl and brother of Sophie, at her mother Queen Noor's English home. Nearly all of them, princes and princesses, have been educated at British schools and universities. They are actually in advance of the BRF with regard to princesses having military careers, just like princes; Abdullah was nearly bursting with pride as he presented his younger daughter with her military wings as a fixed-wing pilot, just as he was when watching her pass out of Sandhurst.
I grew up out in the Gulf during the 1960s and 1970s; my parents had been there since the 1940s and my brother also held Iranian nationality due to his birth there. The upper Gulf states certainly considered the UAE to be more backward socially at the time and Dubai a backwater creek while upper Gulf wealthy families were already educating their children in Europe in the 1950s, some marrying Europeans. The Emir of Bahrain, Sheikh Isa, had only one wife, Sheikha Hessa, and she was very visible. His son, the present king, has four wives with his first wife and cousin being visible as consort. Bahrain currently has severe problems internationally with regard to human rights, and we all know the recent history of Iraq and Kuwait, with Iraq again having been relatively westernised in the 1950s (there's a family tale of my mother going shopping downriver and finding herself in the midst of the Iraqi Revolution!). I have no doubt that amongst his thirty children, a man in a position such as Sheikh Mohammed would not take kindly to a daughter defying him; the kidnap of Shamsa is an open police case in the UK and accepted occurrence, while that of Latifa is the subject of some disquiet in India due to the part played by Indian marines.
I'm quite certain they could do that nowadays as well, they had full on operating theatres for k G VI and also for Liz during labour (in case something went wrong, a fully functional op was set up in the next room!).
I think they go to hospital nowadays instead of staying home because of logistics and PR. It's just easier to be in a hospital where all the medical staff and equipment is, than for medical staff to leave their main base for one patient and have all of it set up at home. And whatever may go wrong, docs and nurses are immediately on hand instead of being called in (by which time it might be too late). On top of that, imagine the public outcry for this. Docs for you, but not for anyone else?!
I don't think this points necessarily to a bad situation, he was in hospital in the past years for something as "simple" as a urinary tract infection. I do believe the palace statement that it is just to be safe, it makes perfect sense, at his age you don't want to risk anything, the body doesn't heal as easily or quickly anymore, you can't call docs and nurses to your home out of frankly selfishness and they have the money for a top notch private hospital which is amazingly equipped. The rooms look like home with sofas etc.
Even during this pandemic, the Ed VII hospital is fairly safe, it's private and doesn't treat Covid patients and it has only about 57 beds.
I have wondered a few times why the Ssexes moved to the US. Sure, they have the money for healthcare and schooling not to be an issue, but it's so far away and they moved when the pandemic was ongoing. Meg might want just her mum in her life, but H has elderly grandparents who are at record age and an elderly father. Even before the pandemic, money aside, you hop on the next possible plane, but you're still taking almost a whole day to get home, which is freakishly long in situations like now, plus the jetlag. They could've scuttled off in the UK to lead a quiet life or another European country. This would've still made it possible to register their foundation in scam paradise Delaware.
As bad as UK press is (and it's world wide renown for all that's wrong with it, it's literally part of the English curriculum abroad!!), they were still better protected in some ways in the UK than they are in the US.
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What makes this visit different to any other one!! Are there red flags which stand out or give the impression that Phil is on his way out!! I cannot see any!
I was told by someone who’s in the “know” that he’s been seriously ill for quite sometime. I think it was the Jubilee when he stood out in the pouring rain (for a parade I think) after being given advice that in his current health it was very bad idea... he was in very poor shape then, so much so that he wasn’t expected to see the birth of Prince George...
Crikey, just had a look on Tumblr and people are blaming Harry for Phil’s ill health. Philip has seen his mother be sent to an asylum, his Dad run off and abandon the family, his favourite sister and her whole family die, been left alone in a foreign country with only a self serving Uncle to raise him, his sisters be banned from his life publicly because they were Nazi’s, the whole Charles and Diana split, Diana’s death, Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein, etc etc. I doubt very much the thing that finishes him off is his prat of a grandson buggering off to America with his wife, abandoning the Royals and doing an interview with Oprah.
He’s 99 for Christ sake - Lizzie giving him a sniffle (not a euphemism) could lead to a hospital stay.
He’s 99 for Christ sake - Lizzie giving him a sniffle (not a euphemism) could lead to a hospital stay.
I was just thinking today that William might have to wait a bit longer for the throne than people seem to expect. I've seen Charles described as elderly but, given the ages his parents have reached (as well as his grandmother QEQM), he may well reach that age. I believe he sets store on eating healthily and daily exercise so there's no reason to think that he will have a very short reign.
Philip got soaked during the rainy Jubilee trip on the Thames and ended up in hospital afterwards. While he's had a few trips to hospital since, he seems very active (as well as still seeing his lady friend/s). Ge walked in under his own steam so it's possible that he has had something that just won't clear up and the doctors are taking no chances at his age. He's also made it clear that he doesn't want big fuss of his centenary or his funeral, just a private family funeral. It's probably his pure bloody mindedness that keeps him going!
Philip got soaked during the rainy Jubilee trip on the Thames and ended up in hospital afterwards. While he's had a few trips to hospital since, he seems very active (as well as still seeing his lady friend/s). Ge walked in under his own steam so it's possible that he has had something that just won't clear up and the doctors are taking no chances at his age. He's also made it clear that he doesn't want big fuss of his centenary or his funeral, just a private family funeral. It's probably his pure bloody mindedness that keeps him going!
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Please, please can all those who are interested in Harry and Meghan post on their own special thread. Keep this a H&M free zone. I am sick to death of hearing about them, and I would love them to absolutely observe their own privacy
He is a tough man and has never been sentimental, he just thinks Harry can do what he wants as an adult. It's his age that has put him in hospital.
. Ge walked in under his own steam so it's possible that he has had something that just won't clear up and the doctors are taking no chances at his age. He's also made it clear that he doesn't want big fuss of his centenary or his funeral, just a private family funeral. It's probably his pure bloody mindedness that keeps him going!
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Wasn’t there talk that he had bladder issues a while back? I seem to recall he had been hospitalised for a UTI a few years ago.
I’m pretty sure at 99 the plumbing isn’t all it used to be!
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Wasn’t there talk that he had bladder issues a while back? I seem to recall he had been hospitalised for a UTI a few years ago.
I’m pretty sure at 99 the plumbing isn’t all it used to be!
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