omg when they went to saint barts and were saying how they expected their children to immediately speak frenchAlex and SimonI remember really hating them first time I watched NY many many years ago, I rewatched seasons 1 - 4 last year and they really grew on me. But yes they were shameless social climbers they also wrote a book on child rearing which is just comical
Oh I loved NY season one / two with old ball SimonI was never a fan of season one or two of NY only got good in season 3 IMO. Seasons one of NJ and BH are by far the best two first seasons.
And the black hairdye spray running down Joe Gorgas faceSeason 1 of NJ is great just for the table flipping moment
It’s awful I watched the latest episode yesterday and it’s really gone to the dogs. When you think how good the earlier seasons were its so so tacky now. They’ve dragged the stripper storyline out to death. Also Kandis reunion lookBloody hell Atlanta is a struggle to watch this season. I don’t know why I’m bothering with it at all.
And she's been all over social media saying she's innocent...Wonder how the Jen Shah case is going to play outSounds like she’s been accused of conning elderly venerable people, with her tele marketing company.
Interesting. I wonder if bravo will keep her as a cast member and film it all like TeresaAnd she's been all over social media saying she's innocent...
Something very interesting about US federal cases like this (according to reddit and not verified): They typically involve long investigations and gathering a lot of evidence before the defendant is charged, so 90% of defendants go on to plead guilty; 8% of cases are dismissed; only 2% go to trial, and a tiny percentage of those cases result in a win for the defendant. If you narrow it down to the Southern District of NY (where Jen has been charged), those stats are even more strongly in the prosecution's favour; SDNY are serious about getting guilty verdicts. They would not have charged her if they didn't have a strong case. Unless she genuinely isn't guilty or has a good chance of being acquitted and her lawyer has advised her of this, surely her best bet now is to cooperate with the feds, plead guilty at the earliest opportunity and hope for a light sentence? But she seems to be doing the exact opposite. I think she may be a true narcissist. Either that or completely delusional.
I think with Teresa it was an easier sell because they were able to use the narrative of Teresa being a victim of Joe's criminal scheming (for lack of better phrasing). What Jen has done is way way worse and tbh I don't think there is anywhere near as much interest in the story for Jen and her family. Part of what made Teresa's (and Joe's) time away more interesting was seeing the impact it had on the girls and Teresa's family. I suspect Jen is going to be dropped like a hot potato and she is going to jail for a very long time.Interesting. I wonder if bravo will keep her as a cast member and film it all like Teresa. Not sure I’m that invested in her as a character, like I was Teresa.
I think they will definitely try, they've always valued drama above morals (thank you Bravo gods). And they were filming on the day she was arrested, so as long as she doesn't quit, they can presumably use the footage and make it a central storyline next season. She won't have as many people rooting for her as Teresa (I was never a fan, but she successfully managed to spin the yarn that it was all Joe's fault/she was really innocent so a lot of people had sympathy for her, whereas Jen seems to be the mastermind behind this and was already disliked), but personally I'd be invested just to see how it all plays out - it's so juicy!Interesting. I wonder if bravo will keep her as a cast member and film it all like Teresa. Not sure I’m that invested in her as a character, like I was Teresa.
It’s AWFUL. Nobody gives a damn if she shagged the bloody stripper!Bloody hell Atlanta is a struggle to watch this season. I don’t know why I’m bothering with it at all.
everything about this season is tragic, I used to like Porsha, I don’t care who she shags sure she openly admitted she got pregnant by Denise because of his income, but the fact she used the BLM movement for content, and got angry the Kandi was set to get attention for her own activism stuff, because that was porsha’s story line, says so much about her personality.It’s AWFUL. Nobody gives a damn if she shagged the bloody stripper!
And where did Tanya go, guilty guiltyyyy
god she looked awful. How did she think that looked goodIt’s awful I watched the latest episode yesterday and it’s really gone to the dogs. When you think how good the earlier seasons were its so so tacky now. They’ve dragged the stripper storyline out to death. Also Kandis reunion look
I wanted to edit this but I'm too late. Source supporting the above stats is here:And she's been all over social media saying she's innocent...
Something very interesting about US federal cases like this (according to reddit and not verified): They typically involve long investigations and gathering a lot of evidence before the defendant is charged, so 90% of defendants go on to plead guilty; 8% of cases are dismissed; only 2% go to trial, and a tiny percentage of those cases result in a win for the defendant. If you narrow it down to the Southern District of NY (where Jen has been charged), those stats are even more strongly in the prosecution's favour; SDNY are serious about getting guilty verdicts. They would not have charged her if they didn't have a strong case. Unless she genuinely isn't guilty or has a good chance of being acquitted and her lawyer has advised her of this, surely her best bet now is to cooperate with the feds, plead guilty at the earliest opportunity and hope for a light sentence? But she seems to be doing the exact opposite. I think she may be a true narcissist. Either that or completely delusional.
Has Eva left then? I don't really keep up to date with Atlanta as much as the others. Its probably my least favourite alongside BHeverything about this season is tragic, I used to like Porsha, I don’t care who she shags sure she openly admitted she got pregnant by Denise because of his income, but the fact she used the BLM movement for content, and got angry the Kandi was set to get attention for her own activism stuff, because that was porsha’s story line, says so much about her personality.
tana outed herself, she’s now made herself look worse for running away.
cynthia needs to go.
Kenya pretending to be bi for a week to try and give herself a story line away from the husband that can’t stand her and never could has reached a new level of desperation, no wonder she’s obsessed with who someone else is shagging.
latoya is just a scank,
drew, I don’t care
kandi, that whole block storyline seems to have been dropped? But it just shows she has nothing to bring to the table and she needs to go.
fallon could have been a good housewife but I don’t know if she wants that.
marlo in the last episode is now so desperate to have a peach she’d fight with herself.
it must be embarrassing to go from such a high rating show to what it’s become now.
god she looked awful. How did she think that looked good
Yeah she left (was fired)Has Eva left then? I don't really keep up to date with Atlanta as much as the others. Its probably my least favourite alongside BH
I get the idea that Fallon’s husband doesn’t want her on TV so she got cut back. Or she was boring. But she has the luxe I crave to see from my housewiveseverything about this season is tragic, I used to like Porsha, I don’t care who she shags sure she openly admitted she got pregnant by Denise because of his income, but the fact she used the BLM movement for content, and got angry the Kandi was set to get attention for her own activism stuff, because that was porsha’s story line, says so much about her personality.
tana outed herself, she’s now made herself look worse for running away.
cynthia needs to go.
Kenya pretending to be bi for a week to try and give herself a story line away from the husband that can’t stand her and never could has reached a new level of desperation, no wonder she’s obsessed with who someone else is shagging.
latoya is just a scank,
drew, I don’t care
kandi, that whole block storyline seems to have been dropped? But it just shows she has nothing to bring to the table and she needs to go.
fallon could have been a good housewife but I don’t know if she wants that.
marlo in the last episode is now so desperate to have a peach she’d fight with herself.
it must be embarrassing to go from such a high rating show to what it’s become now.
god she looked awful. How did she think that looked good
Don't know how true it is but I'm sure it's possible for a federal case of this significance. There's speculation that the undercover agents were the members of her glam squad that were blurred out in the footage last season (very weird to be hired by a housewife knowing you'd be filmed and then not sign a release). Possibly ties in with why someone was recording her conversations as well.I read that someone in Jen’s glam squad was undercover investigating her. Obviously I don’t know how true this is or if they’d even go that far to try and build a case against her for something like this?
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