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LasVegas702

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The courts have put an even stricter gag order out; pretty much for anyone involved in the case now. Seems to have been put in place since People Magazine published all of that stuff 😬
Brian Entin From News Nations on his twitter account said that he was never able to confirm if BK did go to Mad Greek or if BK never had been to Mad Greek since he was never able to confirm or not confirm, he never ran the story about it.

And I remembered during the press conference (on Dec. 30, 2022) after BK was arrested that the prosecutor said that going forward LE will not be talking to the media and that the main stream media should to the court documents for information and that was before the gag order was issued by the judge.
 
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LasVegas702

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Yes he was with them at their house grieving for the girl he loved. He was with Kaylee for a long time and the Goncalves love him.
Yes I know that Jack D had dated Kaylee for about 5 years. There is a youtuber that did a video about Jack D and some of the post that he made on her IG account and if I was a guy I wouldn't have made those kinds of post publicly, imo. This youtuber also looked at Kaylee post too and I have no idea who they are referring to because they don't mention a name and the same with some of Jack D's post too, there was no name mentioned with some of his either. You had to read in between the lines. This youtuber noticed that Kaylee was traveling to different places but without Jack D and Jack D would posted a comment on one of these photos of her travels sometimes like several weeks again I noticed the dates of his post and the date of her post that he was commenting on and he commented something to effect that he wishes he was there. Think this video probably has been either being made private or deleted now, I'm not sure. The rumor I heard that they were on and off over those 5 years which probably explains why her family said that they were going to get back together again because they did done that in the past before.
 
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LasVegas702

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I wonder who was the source that gave information to Newsnation about Xana fingers being nearly severed off from fighting back since there is a gag order in place.



Steve G's lawyer had filed paperwork to fight the gag order the other day.


 
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LasVegas702

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I saw that video but I have yet to watch it and she said that case scared her and I know that she likes to wait awhile before she does a video on cases. I heard that she didn't cover anything new in her video. But I'll watch it later tonight.
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Daily mail's headline: Defense attorney for Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger helped represent family of ANOTHER victim: Chief Public Defender oversaw Maddie Mogen's dad's drugs charge, as well as Xana Kernodle's mom on narcotics offense

I thought it was Maddie's mum who was charged? I've never seen anything about Maddie's dad. I saw it was Xana's mum and Maddie's mum who had these charges. Is this the daily mail not doing their research as per?
I heard that it's Maddie's step mom from what I understand that Maddie's step mom and Xana's mom are friends. I haven't heard anything about Maddie's biological mom. I just found out about Maddie's dad was in prison at some point but I'm not sure when he got out of prison but I just heard that his probation ended just days before Maddie was killed back in Nov. I hope that Maddie's dad is getting the support that he needs.

I read about Anne Taylor being Maddie's step mom's lawyer on twitter but in the article that was written by Idaho Stateman's did about Anne Taylor being a lawyer two of the parents of the victims of Idaho murders but didn't name the parents. But I'm starting to heard that Cara and Maddie' step mom were assigned lawyers from the whole office of Anne Taylor. I heard that Anne Taylor name may be listed as one of the lawyer but she usually isn't the one in the office that is handling the case, it's usually another lawyer that is under her due to Anne being the Chief Public Defender since 2017. It's on twitter if you look for it from what I've read on twitter. I didn't seen these tweets at first but I am now coming across them. But I heard about Maddie's step mom back in late Nov and it's now makes more sense why so many people think that this was a drug cartel hit.


here's a link to that article.



Kohberger attorney represented parent of victim in Moscow homicides before taking his case
UPDATED JANUARY 23, 2023 7:30 PM


Up until taking his case, Bryan Kohberger’s court-appointed public defender was actively representing a parent of one of the four Moscow stabbing victims her client is accused of killing, court records show. Anne Taylor, chief of the Kootenai County Public Defender’s Office, filed an attorney withdrawal notice in Kootenai County Court for the parent on Jan. 5 — the same day Kohberger made his first court appearance in Idaho in Latah County. The parent previously was sentenced on unrelated misdemeanor charges. In that case, as well as another where the parent faces two felony charges, the public defender’s office withdrew in favor of a local criminal defense attorney unrelated to Taylor or the county’s public defender’s office. The new attorney is listed as the “conflict public defender” in court documents.

The Idaho Statesman is not naming the parent with connections to Taylor. The only reason these criminal charges are being reported is to establish the connection between Taylor and family of the homicide victims. Legal experts said the new detail in the high-profile case raised conflict-of-interest questions, when presented with the information by the Idaho Statesman.

Anytime a former client is involved in a current representation, a lawyer should evaluate any potential conflicts,” Brad Andrews, former counsel for the Idaho State Bar, told the Statesman by phone. “Conflicts are very factually based, and so the lawyer decides whether the lawyer has a conflict.” The four stabbing victims were U of I seniors Madison Mogen, 21, and Kaylee Goncalves, 21; junior Xana Kernodle, 20; and freshman Ethan Chapin, 20. The off-campus rental house where they died is located about 9 miles east of Washington State University in Pullman, where Kohberger was a Ph.D. student. Kohberger, 28, was arrested in eastern Pennsylvania at his parent’s house on Dec. 30, extradited to Idaho and charged with four counts of first-degree murder, as well as a count of felony burglary.

Taylor is one of just 13 public defenders in Idaho approved by the state’s public defense commission to lead a capital punishment case. She’s also the only one in all of North Idaho. Prosecutors have yet to indicate whether they will seek the death penalty in Kohberger’s case. Since 2000, the county public defender’s office has represented the homicide victim’s parent off and on in several cases, court records showed. Since Taylor took over, her office has defended the parent in four cases, including a misdemeanor from August 2017, for which Taylor took over as the attorney of record in September 2022.

Taylor’s office also has represented another parent of a Moscow homicides victim in four criminal cases since she became chief public defender. In two cases, online court records name Taylor as an “inactive” attorney. Taylor, 57, has led Kootenai County’s public defender office since June 2017. She previously worked in the same office from 2004 to 2012, then shifted to private practice before returning to take the helm, according to the Coeur d’Alene Press. Taylor is an Idaho native and earned her law degree from the University of Idaho in 1998, the Kootenai County-based newspaper reported.

LEGAL EXPERT: POTENTIAL CONFLICT ‘NOT EASY TO ANSWER’
The Idaho State Bar provides direction to attorneys in its Rules of Professional Conduct about conflicts of interest. “Loyalty and independent judgment are essential elements in the lawyer’s relationship to a client,” its rule on conflicts and current clients reads. “Concurrent conflicts of interest can arise from the lawyer’s responsibilities to another client, a former client or a third person or from the lawyer’s own interests.” Bob Boruchowitz is a longtime attorney and director of the Defender Initiative at Seattle University’s law school, which aims to improve public defense representation. In an interview with the Statesman, he declined to state whether Taylor’s situation constituted a conflict of interest, instead saying that lawyers should be guided by their state codes, and even consult others in the practice when possible conflicts arise.

“Each lawyer needs to assess the possibility of a conflict with the ethical rule in front of her, and talk with clients,” Boruchowitz said by phone. “A lot of these questions are not easy to answer, and it benefits having multiple people looking at them and sorting through the potential issues.” Public defenders in Idaho also operate under slightly more relaxed conflict rules because of the nature of the work to ensure needy defendants receive adequate legal representation, per case law established in Idaho v. Severson. “When I discussed potential conflicts with lawyers, part of my advice was the lawyer should assure they are able to exercise their independent professional judgment,” said Andrews, the retired Idaho State Bar counsel.

Kohberger could receive the death penalty if convicted. Idaho is one of 24 U.S. states that actively maintains capital punishment. Prosecutors have 60 days from the time Kohberger enters a plea to file notice with the court whether they’ll seek the death sentence. Beyond possible conflicts on their face, Boruchowitz pointed to the typical practice of defense attorneys seeking to speak with victims’ families in the course of a possible sentencing period to obtain their buy-in for a life sentence and bypass the death penalty.

“Certainly effective representation in a capital case, if it’s going to get to the penalty phase, there’s got to be an effort to talk to the family,” Boruchowitz said. Stephen Gillers, legal ethics professor at NYU’s law school, told the Statesman there’s a practical solution to such a scenario, which he stated is unusual because it happens infrequently. “There’s a concept called ‘shadow counsel,’ ” Gillers said by phone Monday. “When a lawyer has a conflict that’s relatively minor that a lawyer may wish not to handle — or may not be allowed to handle — the lawyer can ask someone else to do that part of the case.” It is unclear whether Kohberger is aware of his attorney’s prior connection to the parents of two of the four students he is accused of killing. Previous Statesman requests for an in-person interview with Kohberger through Taylor, and the Latah County Sheriff’s Office, which manages the county jail where he’s being held, did not receive responses.

The Statesman attempted to contact the two parents involved. One did not comment; the other could not be reached. A gag order issued by 2nd District Court Judge Megan Marshall on Jan. 3, which she expanded last week, restricts Taylor from commenting about Kohberger’s case outside of court filings. Taylor and her office did not respond Monday to email and phone messages from the Statesman seeking comment about their prior representation of the two parents. Also Monday, a Latah County Court clerk offered no comment to the Statesman about whether Marshall was aware of Taylor’s prior representation before appointing the public defender in the Kohberger case.

Aside from Taylor, a dozen public defenders in Idaho are qualified to lead a capital case. But each of them resides well outside North Idaho. Another 10 public defenders are qualified to act as co-counsel on a capital case, including two in North Idaho. One is Taylor’s chief deputy of litigation, Jay Logsdon, who is her co-counsel in the Kohberger case. The other is attorney Susie Jensen, the former Bonner County chief public defender. Gov. Brad Little appointed Jensen as a judge in Idaho’s 1st District in November. Latah County public defender Deb McCormick previously represented Moscow gunman John Lee, who pleaded guilty in 2016 to three counts of murder in exchange for life in prison and to avoid the death penalty. But McCormick is not currently approved to lead or co-counsel a capital case, according to the list of eligible Idaho public defenders updated in December. Kohberger and Taylor are scheduled to be back in Latah County Court for his preliminary hearing starting at 9 a.m. Pacific on June 26.

I saw that Emily D Baker and Lawyer you Know have both done videos about this "conflict" about this conflict that people keep talking about.
 
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LasVegas702

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Okay Emm Bailey's case was dismissed
Demetrius R. Robinson has been dismissed but has been picked up by another county. he was released without bail
 
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TapToBoreMeRigid

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Ah so they realised based on the judges rulings on the motions the other day that it needed to be waived now. So much evidence that needs to be discovered by both sides and so little time. Interested to see how much time they'll now take to bring it to trial, especially considering that it is a death penalty case. I wonder what percent of accused waive the speedy trial. 6 months is such a short time to be effectively defended considering lawyers have multiple clients.
 
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LasVegas702

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Andrea's last tweet, I could be wrong, But I'm guessing it's based on that document that was just released because there is a document where the Prosecutor said that he considers Steve G and his family to be witness to the case and they are covered by the gag order. I need to go and find those documents. :unsure:
I'm having trouble with keep up with this case now. :LOL: I after what I read on twitter last night, omg. My head hurts.
 
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LasVegas702

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You can usually view pay wall articles on "12ft ladder". I seen someone in another thread mention it.
I went to that website and my laptop freaked out about it. But thank you for your help but there are some youtuber that have read that article on their Channel's so if I need to refer to it in the future. I'll just go back to their video about this latest article. And again thank you so much for your help.
 
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yellowmellow

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Sorry to sound dumb, just a bit confused. So the stuff that's been released recently does this mean they've actually found these things or was that a search warrant to say what they are looking for at his apartment?
Both. The first part is saying what they were looking for and why and the list is what they found. The glove, the hairs etc.
 
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LasVegas702

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This is long and I’m not sure how accurate it is but it’s quite interesting.
there is a youtuber that read this article, he didn't cover the whole article but he covered the high points of it and you are right it's quite interesting especially the part of about Dylan.
 
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LasVegas702

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piggy backing off my last post

about the Brady/Giglio stuff and someone's statement that we should not be saying naming but that Howard Blum guy wrote that article back in Jan about the case and he mentioned Gunderson and Nunes or Nunez names as they are both involved in sticker gate. and there is photos of Gunderson at the crime scene.


I heard that Gunderson may have been one of the first people to the crime scene that's not good.
 
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Ittybittytittyclub

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Sorry if this has already been said, but I noticed there wasn’t a mobile phone seized. We know he has one as cell data has been used as evidence. Does anyone know possible reasons why it’s not included in this list?
 
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