interestingly she deleted that and put another one up in support of Jana and tagged herI just saw cousin Amy's story (she is alone with Dax) and she left a barbed "One thing I won't be doing is falling asleep" comment on the photo.
Oh Jana.
interestingly she deleted that and put another one up in support of Jana and tagged herI just saw cousin Amy's story (she is alone with Dax) and she left a barbed "One thing I won't be doing is falling asleep" comment on the photo.
Oh Jana.
seems like Jana has been looking after Josh and Anna's kids too so Anna could spend all her time with her dirty bastard of a husband.Where is Michelle in all of this?! Jana has been raising kids that aren’t hers since she was about 10. If I was her, I’d marry anyone just to get out of that house!
Not sure why people expect a statement from Joy. She has just learned (at the same time as the public!) the details of the abuse that happened to her. She's probably been gaslit her whole life about what happened to her. Give the girl some time to process
Yup, so she’s finished raising the duggars, and now she will be stuck raising Anna and Josh’s children!seems like Jana has been looking after Josh and Anna's kids too so Anna could spend all her time with her dirty bastard of a husband.
How is anyone supposed to form an opinion about what should happen to the man who did this and to his family members who enabled and protected him if they don't know the facts? The children who suffered and died to provide this sicko with his wankbank material deserve to have the world know what they went through so that the world might finally be enraged enough to actually bleeping act against it.I posted in thread one about it. Simplest version is, I walked out the door while everyone was asleep.
Maybe we can all collectively agree to hide some bits behind spoiler tags or add trigger warnings? Theres a fair few members who have had to suffer this stuff and a couple of us who have lived through this cult.
I for one did not need to read that detail?
This is a thread solely dedicated to discussing a man who has just been convicted in federal court of possessing graphic child abuse images. What would people expect to see being discussed - Santa photos?So by your logic, everyone here derserves to stumble on graphic details of Child sexual assult videos because they have to know exactly how bad he is and exactly how bad those children suffered? Is it not enough that we can all just know that Child sexual assult is bad? No matter how intense it was.
Also by your logic we should all forgo this thread, any thread, hell even the whole internet cause you dont see the need for any kind of warning about if a post contains details if child sexual images. If id of known this post has that information in, i would of skipped it like a grown adult. You want us denyed that opportunity?
I also find it really grim that you want to know in detail what happened to these kids. Thats...odd.
I read elsewhere about the (thankfully vague) details of what went into that Daisy destruction video. Ended up reading more on wiki when reading about the disgusting man who made it and that Daisy was found. I don’t think anyome would suggest knowing what some of the videos are is anything like getting pleasure from details. I’m sure any normal person would like to hit the delete button in their brain. It’s fantastic you work in the field, I can’t begin to imagine the level of ptsd among people working in that field.This is a thread solely dedicated to discussing a man who has just been convicted in federal court of possessing graphic child abuse images. What would people expect to see being discussed - Santa photos?
I have spent much of my professional life attempting to rescue children from sex traffickers. How dare you imply that I'm here for voyeuristic motives.
EDIT: Btw the primary rule of this forum is that members don't attempt to moderate threads. If you have a problem with a post you report it and moderators moderate it. You don't have the authority here to be demanding that anything should be added or removed from any other user's post.
What torments me about this case is I'm aware that in the circles within which films & images this extreme are passed around, people need to buy their way in. Not just with money but with contributions to the pool of materials. The media are making it seem like anyone can install Linux, download a Tor browser and voila suddenly you're surfing the dark web, surrounded by child abuse films. It's not true. You need to know people who can direct you to the right sources and to be directed by them, they need to trust that you're not a Fed. He may have spent weeks, months or even years cultivating these contacts on other sites. Exchanging images, sharing sick fantasies. Forging the networks required to wade this deeply into the cesspool. These monsters will often use their own children as currency to achieve that level of trust, to make those necessary connections.I read elsewhere about the (thankfully vague) details of what went into that Daisy destruction video. Ended up reading more on wiki when reading about the disgusting man who made it and that Daisy was found. I don’t think anyome would suggest knowing what some of the videos are is anything like getting pleasure from details. I’m sure any normal person would like to hit the delete button in their brain. It’s fantastic you work in the field, I can’t begin to imagine the level of ptsd among people working in that field.
Being that he already knew someone who was found with csa material...What torments me about this case is I'm aware that in the circles within which films & images this extreme are passed around, people need to buy their way in. Not just with money but with contributions to the pool of materials. The media are making it seem like anyone can install Linux, download a Tor browser and voila suddenly you're surfing the dark web, surrounded by child abuse films. It's not true. You need to know people who can direct you to the right sources and to be directed by them, they need to trust that you're not a Fed. He may have spent weeks, months or even years cultivating these contacts on other sites. Exchanging images, sharing sick fantasies. Forging the networks required to wade this deeply into the cesspool. These monsters will often use their own children as currency to achieve that level of trust, to make those necessary connections.
I recall shuddering when I heard Anna Duggar say when their first child was an infant that Josh was a wonderful father because "He insists on doing diaper duty." Knowing what he had admitted doing to his own young sisters and suspecting that he had done far more than he would ever confess, I immediately feared the worst.
I will never forgive her for having exposed her precious children to that level of risk.
Thank you for pointing that out @Tilly Kister. Yes, it is a very expensive "club" to join and the media, in their usual whitewashing, make it seem like anyone can gain access to these images. People do not understand the amount of time, effort and money it takes to enter this sick world: It becomes a full-time job and their reason for getting up in the morning. It is a lifestyle akin to international drug lords and drug trafficking.What torments me about this case is I'm aware that in the circles within which films & images this extreme are passed around, people need to buy their way in. Not just with money but with contributions to the pool of materials. The media are making it seem like anyone can install Linux, download a Tor browser and voila suddenly you're surfing the dark web, surrounded by child abuse films. It's not true. You need to know people who can direct you to the right sources and to be directed by them, they need to trust that you're not a Fed. He may have spent weeks, months or even years cultivating these contacts on other sites. Exchanging images, sharing sick fantasies. Forging the networks required to wade this deeply into the cesspool. These monsters will often use their own children as currency to achieve that level of trust, to make those necessary connections.
I recall shuddering when I heard Anna Duggar say when their first child was an infant that Josh was a wonderful father because "He insists on doing diaper duty." Knowing what he had admitted doing to his own young sisters and suspecting that he had done far more than he would ever confess, I immediately feared the worst.
I will never forgive her for having exposed her precious children to that level of risk.
Whether or not someone had told him where to look, he would still need to buy his way into the community by contributing to it. You don't just log into a website because you were given the address and there it is lying about. If that were the case it wouldn't take investigators years to infiltrate the child abuse rings that operate them would it?Being that he already knew someone who was found with csa material...
Maybe was even introduced to it by this person to give an outlet for those desires/urges.
I read the wiki about Peter skullys daisy video, it said it was so bad it was thought to be an urban Legend for a long time and it sold for $10k each time. The thought did cross my mind too of how did he get into that kind of material, was he paying large amounts, friends with someone within those tight circles or worse still did he prove himself some way by supplying his own. I hope we are both wrongWhat torments me about this case is I'm aware that in the circles within which films & images this extreme are passed around, people need to buy their way in. Not just with money but with contributions to the pool of materials. The media are making it seem like anyone can install Linux, download a Tor browser and voila suddenly you're surfing the dark web, surrounded by child abuse films. It's not true. You need to know people who can direct you to the right sources and to be directed by them, they need to trust that you're not a Fed. He may have spent weeks, months or even years cultivating these contacts on other sites. Exchanging images, sharing sick fantasies. Forging the networks required to wade this deeply into the cesspool. These monsters will often use their own children as currency to achieve that level of trust, to make those necessary connections.
I recall shuddering when I heard Anna Duggar say when their first child was an infant that Josh was a wonderful father because "He insists on doing diaper duty." Knowing what he had admitted doing to his own young sisters and suspecting that he had done far more than he would ever confess, I immediately feared the worst.
I will never forgive her for having exposed her precious children to that level of risk.