The DIS Unplugged #10 We’re Not Happy to be Here

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I wasn't a fan of Jenilynn's. She had such a strange energy. Now that we know the real story, it all makes sense. Not that it matters to her, but I'd like to apologize for how I felt. I admire her courage for telling her real story. I wish her all the best in the future.
JL was before my time. I felt that way about Sean during the show at times, but I also feel like it explains a lot.

When he spoke on the Moving to Orlando show with authority, we saw a pleasant and informative side of him that was engaging and interesting. I would get frustrated with PW interjecting because he clearly didn't know what he was talking about regarding real estate. And those house tours...ugh...PW was the worst. I know it was a horrible time and experience for Sean, but I am glad we got to see that side of him. I enjoyed watching Sean during that time when I was considering a move to Florida.
 
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It always seemed like a horrible financial expenditure. I think I remember them saying that she makes and sends out gift bags or something but really how does this make any financial sense for the company? I think they employed a few people to staff it plus the overhead of having a space there. So strange.
I go to that area fairly often because we're in seeing some of the more unique rocket launches. The Dis location appears to be just a spot to rent for an address. It is near the cruise terminal, and you can visit, but it's just a random, small, strip mall. I mean, I wouldn't expect them to have anything lavish, but I think they were mostly just wanting a physical address at their exposal
 
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I go to that area fairly often because we're in seeing some of the more unique rocket launches. The Dis location appears to be just a spot to rent for an address. It is near the cruise terminal, and you can visit, but it's just a random, small, strip mall. I mean, I wouldn't expect them to have anything lavish, but I think they were mostly just wanting a physical address at their exposal
Until someone posted the picture, I always imagined the Welcome Center as so much more! I thought it was more of an upscale lounge for clients arriving to Port early and somewhere to chill in comfort. I feel like I was watching one of those FB Reels or Tik Tok videos of Social Media vs. Reality of different tourists spots!
 
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Until someone posted the picture, I always imagined the Welcome Center as so much more! I thought it was more of an upscale lounge for clients arriving to Port early and somewhere to chill in comfort. I feel like I was watching one of those FB Reels or Tik Tok videos of Social Media vs. Reality of different tourists spots!
Totally agree. What a shithole!
 
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Until someone posted the picture, I always imagined the Welcome Center as so much more! I thought it was more of an upscale lounge for clients arriving to Port early and somewhere to chill in comfort. I feel like I was watching one of those FB Reels or Tik Tok videos of Social Media vs. Reality of different tourists spots!
If you had to judge Dreams Unlimited Travel by their Geocities style website, their ancient business model (fill out a form & a few days later a travel agent will get back to you) & their depressing strip mall outlet you'd be forgiven for thinking you were still in 1995. I still don't understand why people use a travel agent anyway when you can just book direct. I just seems such a faff, especially when you need to amend things.
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I'm not sure if its been mentioned before but Dreams' BBB rating was padded out with a number of 5* reviews all on either 08/28/23 or 08/29/23. Either side of those dates ALL the reviews have been one or two stars. Very, very suspicious. BBB Dreams Unlimited Travel, Inc. Reviews
 
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I'm not sure if its been mentioned before but Dreams' BBB rating was padded out with a number of 5* reviews all on either 08/28/23 or 08/29/23. Either side of those dates ALL the reviews have been one or two stars. Very, very suspicious. BBB Dreams Unlimited Travel, Inc. Reviews
Somewhere John posted (after it was highlighted here, I think) that they'd 'inadvertently' let their BBB certification lapse, had taken the logo off their website while they reapplied or whatever, and are now recertified. I'm sure he had Kevin and some of their besties post reviews alongside their reapplication.
 
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Somewhere John posted (after it was highlighted here, I think) that they'd 'inadvertently' let their BBB certification lapse, had taken the logo off their website while they reapplied or whatever, and are now recertified. I'm sure he had Kevin and some of their besties post reviews alongside their reapplication.
On other sites they have wildly varying ratings. Their own Facebook page has a great 4.5/5 rating but on closer inspection the majority of the recent reviews are spam - Forex/Crypto & someone who makes Spells! I wonder why John doesn't remove those recommended 'reviews'..

These are typical real Facebook reviews for Dreams from the last couple of years:

"The owner John Magi had the nerve to email me and berated me and go so far as to lie about his employee Chris who yelled at me then lied about it to John! Really? How pathetic are you that you would lied to cover your incompetence and then try to ruin my family’s vacation? No morals and no integrity! Let’s all hope this dumpster fire goes belly up and out of business soon!"

"Easy process to get a quote. However, to make changes was extremely difficult. Assigned agent was not responsive. Three full days after emailing I called the number only to find out that person who answers the phone could do nothing but ping the agent by email. I could’ve made the changes I wanted for my vacation in less than 20 minutes, instead, I’m waiting for 3 days and counting."

"DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY! WOW! We have been trying to book a vacation since June 7 and we can’t even get anyone to return our phone calls or emails! Two of their agents in particular Marla and Chris were incredibly rude and unprofessional! What ever happened to good customer service?"

How on earth do they make money?
 
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How on earth do they make money?
I think they are living off the fan base they curated early on before a lot of agencies and channels were doing this. They really were fairly progressive at the time, but have not kept up with the times in any regard. I have to believe their client base in dwindling. I cannot imagine who would book with them today.
 
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I booked through them in 2021 for our first DCL cruise. Never used a travel agent before but wanted to support them and I was getting a nice on-board credit. The agent took days to respond (and some emails just flat out ignored) and messed up our transportation back from the port. Luckily we were able to get it taken care of at the port but I won't ever use them again.
 
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You know I never pieced the two together that Craig stayed with Pete after he canned his best friend for petty reasons and was absolute trash to Jenny Lynn so don’t play that game that you knew nothing.
 
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Until someone posted the picture, I always imagined the Welcome Center as so much more! I thought it was more of an upscale lounge for clients arriving to Port early and somewhere to chill in comfort. I feel like I was watching one of those FB Reels or Tik Tok videos of Social Media vs. Reality of different tourists spots!
On some surface level, I get the idea of having a spot where you can put faces to names, address any last minute details/issues, but for what you get at those prices? May as well just put the money on a charcoal grill and light it up.
 
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If you had to judge Dreams Unlimited Travel by their Geocities style website, their ancient business model (fill out a form & a few days later a travel agent will get back to you) & their depressing strip mall outlet you'd be forgiven for thinking you were still in 1995. I still don't understand why people use a travel agent anyway when you can just book direct. I just seems such a faff, especially when you need to amend things.
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I'm not sure if its been mentioned before but Dreams' BBB rating was padded out with a number of 5* reviews all on either 08/28/23 or 08/29/23. Either side of those dates ALL the reviews have been one or two stars. Very, very suspicious. BBB Dreams Unlimited Travel, Inc. Reviews
Yes when you go to Disneys site for a quote you can look up different dates, hotels etc within seconds. With DUT I have to wait days for 1 quote. Their business must enter the realm of shady if it makes money.
Also the BBB is outdated too
 
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Somewhere John posted (after it was highlighted here, I think) that they'd 'inadvertently' let their BBB certification lapse, had taken the logo off their website while they reapplied or whatever, and are now recertified. I'm sure he had Kevin and some of their besties post reviews alongside their reapplication.
It looks like that was a reply to a poor BBB review discussing the claim that they were certified. Interestingly enough, that reply/explanation was ALSO written on 8/29/23.
 
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It always seemed like a horrible financial expenditure. I think I remember them saying that she makes and sends out gift bags or something but really how does this make any financial sense for the company? I think they employed a few people to staff it plus the overhead of having a space there. So strange.
Could it be a front?
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I forgot that the welcome center never got addressed in all my stuff. - it’s really stupid.

Years ago, Disney allowed vendors to come on the ship while it was in port to put things in people’s rooms before they got to the ship. DUT got a lease nearby the ship so the baskets could be made and then quickly make it to the ship between check out and check in so the guest would arrive and their basket was waiting in their stateroom. Disney eventually eliminated this policy and DUT still had the lease, so they started mailing the baskets or you could pick them up in person.

Back then, the baskets were fairly helpful. It had a highlighter marking activities on the daily planner, it had a white board so you could write notes for your family on where to find you on the ship, a power strip so you had more wall plugs etc etc. but as times changed, the things in the basket weren’t relevant anymore.

Pete told me about the welcome center and said that he didn’t know what to do with it at that point and the lease was soon going to expire. I believe the rent was around $3000 a month but I’m not sure I remember that correctly. Pete said it worked well because they needed a place to make the baskets and anyone who booked with FLtours to be driven there got a free stop over at the Welcome Center.

I asked what was in the baskets and that the cost was roughly $25 per basket, I was told it was 2 full time employees and 1 part time employee. Teresa also could book someone on their next cruise after they got off the ship or if people called in she could book them (which actually did happen with people calling).

I gave my two cents. I said Teresa could easily answer the business phone from her house and then you don’t have to pay a salary. I also suggested the basket was outdated and irrelevant and that instead of paying 2.5 employee salaries to make them and $36k a year to house it all, plus the cost to make each one that they could just stop making them completely. This would save around $126,000 per year in company expenses. Not even taking shipping the baskets into account.

Instead of baskets, DUT already gave $25+ in Disney gift cards (depending on what you spend) to their clients) but DUT could also have a gift card and give the clients that and ‘match’ whatever the Disney amount was. This would ensure that the client would HAVE to use DUT in the future and if they didn’t then the company loses nothing because the money isn’t real, it’s just a deduction off a future trip which would’ve made DUT able to always beat the competition because everyone is the same price as Disney (outside like Costco and stuff) but DUT gift cards would allow you to book with them again at a slightly lower rate than even Disney could book the client. In addition, a gift card would allow them to have ‘giveaways’ on the show and at events and if the winner uses it, its new business, if they don’t then it’s no loss.

I had the gift card made (see attached) and it was simple, it allowed people to use their number on the back to have it linked with their profile so the balance would show there. It also listed most of the products we sold because so many people said they didn’t think we sold anything but Disney. It also featured Pete’s new ‘tv logo’ (fun fact, the plan there was that Pete wanted theDIS to become a round the clock television channel - like you could subscribe to with cable - which is also stupid).

I presented it to Pete first and explained to him that he needed to present it to John himself and claim that Craig made it because John didn’t like me and would kill the project simply because I presented it. Pete showed John and John liked it and then Pete told me that he then told John that I came up with it ‘so I got my credit’ and then John changed his tune and said it wouldn’t work and killed it. I told him I didn’t want credit, I was just trying to help and that he shouldn’t have done that and then Pete got made at me and flipped out that I’m stupid and a terrible employee and businessman anyway and he’d never defend me again cause I’m ungrateful and all that.

and now for the photo above of the street view of the welcome center. Pete proceeded to invest a bunch of money into the welcome center and bought all new furniture and couches. Dragged us down there to film travel agency content (these videos likely still exist because it was them interviewing me on the new couches about booking vacations - this should’ve been in 2019 I believe) - then he wanted me to start working out of the welcome center (which would’ve given me a 1+ hour commute every day, each way for a job I currently did from home) and he also proceeded to rent the unit on the far left (you can see it just has a white sign above it that’s blank). He moved the basket making into that other building and then made the welcome center, just be the welcome center, despite them being able to make baskets for years in the one rented unit.

In what was supposed to be a money saving plan, it ended up costing extra per year with no benefit, but I guess he proved his point to me. Hope it was worth it. And to think it all started with a gift card.
Why did John not like you?
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I can't imagine they would renew that lease moving forward, especially with Pete out of the picture. I remember an episode of the podcast where Kevin just went on and on about them giving out highlighters like it was the most amazing tool for your cruise you could ever receive. Also, I believe clothespins as well. Then went onnnn about coming to the welcome center and enjoying some air conditioning before the cruise, like it was the only place in Orlando that had an air-conditioned space. All these years of money out the window for this space, had they saved that money they would prob have enough to pay off Petes amex debt. :)
I'm telling you - it's a front.
 
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Could it be a front?
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Why did John not like you?
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I'm telling you - it's a front.
I was a pest for sure when I started being a travel agent. He didn’t want me to be an agent in the first place and Pete forced it on him so he didn’t like that. I understand why he wouldn’t have liked me but we got along fine as people.

My main reason to Pete and not wanting him to tell John was because Pete had already been running with a lot of my ideas and I was changing too much of the status quo in that and John was happy with Dreams and didn’t want me busting in and changing things. So I felt he would’ve been offput by anything I suggested because John got to live the life he wanted, the top agents/his friends did well and he didn’t want anyone disrupting that. Anytime Pete had an issue or wanted something, John said yes 99 times out of 100 because Pete can’t be reasoned with. He only picked his battles when it was extreme or when it affected Dreams as a whole.

If Pete wanted to hire some random like me and get Dreams to pay me for a job that didn’t exist, John was generally ok with that because he’d rather not fight Pete and knew Pete wouldn’t respond well to ‘no’ - so why fight if it’s not business breaking? They were taking home well into the 6 figures at the end of the day so what’s a few thousand more a month versus Pete retaliating and trying to say ‘no more AbD for you’ or whatever.

I’m more sympathetic to John than most would be because I’ve run a business with Pete as a 50/50 partner. You are 50/50 in name only. I could’ve stayed partnered with Pete at Moving To Orlando, let him walk on me, let him dangle our employees jobs over their head, and not care about our customers but I couldn’t do that so I walked away. It felt unethical to put my friends through what I had been through with Pete just to make a lot of money. I got by before Pete and I can do it again, so I left. However, I 100% see how a person can try to work with Pete and get in enough fights that they finally just have enough. If the dogs are going to keep barking, eventually you’ll cave and give it a treat so you can get back to your day. I think John and some others are willing to sell themselves to Pete for comfort longer than I was willing to.

Pete once told me after he met me he ‘stopped hiring escorts since he had me’ and I told him ‘Everyone you know is your escort, they just don’t know it’ and he didn’t understand at the time what I meant. I imagine he does now.
 
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