Tattle In The Press

[CrackingOwlSanctuary]

As always these articles miss out the reason why there is a need for a forum like Tattle, even more ironic given the latest one is a Guardian effort. If 18 months ago I had commented on Jack Monroe's twitter, former Guardian protegé that she is, and said politely enough 'Hey Jack, I think you might have got the costings wrong on your Peasant's Pudding vs the Jubilee Trifle because you have used a different method on each when calculating the price.' What would have happened?

She'd have turned her gaze towards me like the Eye of Sauron, still in her pomp as she was then, and started attacking me which gives tacit permission to her diehard fans to attack me too. We have seen it time and again, not just from her but others too.

This is why there is a need for Tattle, because at it's core there is no space for dissenting voices on mainstream social media without risking massively over reacting consequences designed to silence people.

I was once threatened by someone on Facebook for quoting a deceased celebrity's own words from an interview, the person decided they did not like me bringing up something about their favoured celebrity they didn't like and went through my profile pulling information then told me they were going to spread it around the internet saying I had sexually abused children if I didn't shut up.

 

[FrannyGallops]

I often wonder how sheltered a life one must have led if you think Tattle is the most hate filled place on the internet and akin to dipping your foot into a bath of acid. They must be the children of parents who never told them off or let them watch X Factor. Bizarre. And again, it makes me laugh that they’re publicising their article on Twitter, which is a cesspit of hate, misogyny and pornography.

 

[BettyCrockerr]

It’s just another dull, poorly constructed piece that’s almost a carbon copy of what has already been written. It’s lazy journalism. Not a scrap of balance, no critical thinking applied, no ACTUAL investigation. It’s waffle. And badly executed waffle at that.

 

[slugella]

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Just read the article. "Last month, content creator and influencer Em Sheldon met with the Parliamentary Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee (DCMS). There, she told MPs about the “dark spaces of the internet”, on forum sites like Tattle Life, where “grown women with children” target influencers, bloggers and other public figures with relentless abuse." Grown women with children is such an odd thing to highlight?

The article also highlights that it's anonymous here and you don't need to give personal details to sign up. This is the same as social media and other forums. I'm anonymous here because I'm careful about what I put on the internet for safety - not because I'm ashamed of my opinions. Im private everywhere. I have never said anything here that I consider hateful or that would get me fired from my job. I'm here because I find influencer culture and how many of them behave so shady, disingenuous, and fascinating. I'm not sure if this is worded very well but I find the psychology of it very interesting, as it's such a new career and new type of celebrity, the impacts of which are unknown - for influencer and followers. I know social media and following influencers has impacted my mental health previously which is why I don't follow any anymore. I think we deserve to be able to discuss things like this somewhere. Who are influencers accountable to? Why do journalists writing about us apparent "trolls" never touch on these points?

I do think some threads on here are too intense and go too far. I avoid them. The same as I would on Twitter etc, and report anything that is necessary.

The article also comments on being able to find where influencers live. Influencers themselves make it obvious where they live, especially now they all want to do house renovation accounts to get freebies. Some users do make it obvious when they find their house though which I don't agree with, e.g. not directly posting the address but by posting things like "search this" "the street name rhymes with" etc, though I've always seen mods remove this.

I think Pandora and Dollys threads have been pretty tame, posted in by people who have followed them and supported them, but it's opened up interesting discussions about class and wealth and inclusivity which I find interesting.

This is probs super long haha sorry!

 

[Yel]

The very worst of tattle doesn't even register in comparison to other user generated sites.

I'm not going to lie there has (twice) been someone on the Katie price threads who said she should end her life. That's by far been the worst things ever posted here. The comments weren't up for long (minutes after being reported) and users banned. There has a handful of time been stuff like right move links posted, also deleted very quickly.

Everyone has a different moral compass. Lots do find any comments about someone's weight abhorrent. It happens, but it's definitely not a focus of tattle and is a tiny minority of messages. It's usually about how they misrepresent themselves in rather than just having a go at someone for the sake of it.

Where do you draw the line between something distasteful? It's very tricky. Deleting comments often leads people to then disrupt threads and totally lie about what was deleted. Sometimes it's better for a distasteful comment that's been quoted lots to stay where people can respectfully disagree.

The media really needs to get over cherry picking a few comments out of millions to misrepresent tattle and actually address the main narrative.

 

[Yel]

Thankfully (for her sake) the violent pe dofile Sali Hughes threatened to send to our homes never happened. I think Sali Hughes has some people's addresses from when they were on her site and was threatening to use that in order to scare and silence people.

Let's not forget all of Sali Hughes deleted tweets

Sali Hughes Trolling – The Other Side Omitted by BBC Documentary? – Lime Goss

 

[Aude]

I can't remember where I read this but it makes a good point:

'It is objectively hilarious, as a society, to have invented a whole class of people whose job is to film themselves pretending to be excited as they open boxes of free stuff. Even funnier, there’s a whole other class of people who choose to watch the first class of people opening their boxes of free stuff and pretending to look delighted, and then (this really is the good bit) will go and buy what they saw someone else get for nothing and pretend to be delighted with.'

 

[coconochanel]

Well after reading the DM article I have to say I'm proud to be a tattler!

 

[MancBee]

I see that the Evening News are no longer allowing comments below the article. They have also removed all previous comments.

I wonder if this was because the public were not siding with the influencers as they expected. Of course it was.

 

[Yel]

they always seem to choose the worse threads at their most off topic/bitchy time.

There's almost 8'000'000 posts here. It's not hard for hacks to search for a few which out of context look bad. They only ever repeat a few words of them.

Like calling Katie price a druggie pisshead. I bet this was posted shortly after she flipped her car while drunk in the early hours going on a drugs run and the judge wanted to give her a custodial sentence. Hardly outrageous the comments she attracts on tattle with her very problematic behaviour.

Also, the DM’s content is full of dragging articles about, mainly women, who fail to cut the mustard. People like Lisa Armstrong. They say she looks wonderful and then print a photo of her looking like she has just crawled out of a skip to invite the nasty comments about her appearance. The DM’s reach is bigger than this site. Their misogynistic attitudes and general nastiness has a more insidious, damaging effect than this site will ever do.

It's so disingenuous the way they do that these days. Articles like "flaunts her fabulous curves" when it's a very unflattering picture of someone who's put on weight and is wearing clothes too small for them.

 

[Veronicaaa]

It’s just another dull, poorly constructed piece that’s almost a carbon copy of what has already been written. It’s lazy journalism. Not a scrap of balance, no critical thinking applied, no ACTUAL investigation. It’s waffle. And badly executed waffle at that.

I'm so fed up of them coming to scrape content off here only to turn round and act like they're superior when in fact they completely ignore the influencers blatantly stealing money from their followers and from actual charities. I mean, if they did just a little investigation into the financials it would make such a better story (or stories plural) than these regurgitated 'think piece' columns which say absolutely nothing other than 'there's this site where people are talking about the morally corrupt shit influencers are getting up to. Which is ... bad, somehow.'

 

[Yel]

Like I said before, maybe we should point these people at places like GLP or 4Chan if they *really* want to see abusive behaviour.

Ignore all those forums by far extremists, terrorists, neo Nazis, sexual abuse and all that. Tattle is the dark forum because at worst it's a bit bitchy to those that overshare their so called private life as a job

The fact that they have to lie to mislead about here shows they've lost the argument already.

Fucking entitled people that want to be a celeb without all the trappings that aways have come with it. Ridiculous. I'm probably repeating what I've said countless times

 

[Gamu]

Skimmed the article. So aside from conflating the evils Tattle with what happened to that MP and a wrongfooted doxxing attempt, they basically cherrypicked some unfair criticism of influencers (always the calls to social services, can anyone point to a case of that actually happening) and ignored the swathes of legitimate critique of influencing practice on here: monetizing children, fraud, undeclared adverts, exploitation and dishonesty. Maybe if the Guardian took more of a critical look at social media influencers and bloggers, there'd be less of a need for tattle.

And yeah, there's still some nasty misogyny on Reddit. I have an account because plenty of its subreddits are innocuous and cover topics I'm interested in, but you don't have to look that hard. God knows about Kiwi farms and 4chan. But hey, those forums are male dominated and boys will be boys, eh

So true. Leave the boys alone. Let then threaten to rape JKR on Twitter.
The fact Tattle is largely female and free thinking is what enrages. The comments on the Daily Mail are far worse than anything I have seen here. The guardian is all for cancel culture

 

[Orange99]

Where is the safety net for all the vulnerable people the influencers, influence with their fake lives.

and don’t get me started on the children’s who’s lives are exposed for content!

I want to see that documentary…so people can open their eyes a world where you don’t need Tattle is the world I want to live in - until then we need to keep exposing the truth about influencers!

 

[ZapfaWat]

Has any tattler here read the You mag in the MOS? Double spread about Tattle.Life and how ,according to some psychologist ( might even be Babs Groupon counsellor) , we are jealous of the Likes of Babs and their lifestyles. Laugh? ,I nearly started. I can honestly say that any instawanker that has their own thread on Tattle, is not someone I'm envious of . Prepare yourselves folk for incoming new members ....hopefully!

Feels fucking rich from the Daily Mail, who profit off airing every celeb's dirty laundry out for all to see, and also the one who re-post Tattle stuff as their own.

For people interested: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-9887977/What-makes-woman-abuse-stranger-online.html

Also, assuming its just all women! Men are on here as well!

 

[CrackingOwlSanctuary]

How can you be a tattle whistleblower ffs it's a public forum not MI5

 

[Veronicaaa]

Does this mean we've got Private Eye people lurking? Come on people let's do a Jack Monroe takedown, I triple dare you.

 

[GladiatorReady]

For Tattle Life is where women come (and the majority of posts are by women) to criticise, castigate and condemn their fellow sex. Celebrities, influencers, writers, commentators — no one, it seems, is immune from their venom.

I wonder if Clare Fogues has signed up to dedicated incel forums where men talk about how much they want to murder women, or if she's signed up to the forums where Johns review the women they've paid for sex in incredibly cruel and callous ways, sometimes delighting in the pain they cause them.



Nah, women saying mean things about other women is far more toxic than those forums.

 

[Yel]

They'll be nothing law breaking about it as it's her opinion that she's allowed to hold. But the BBC at least should do some fact checking and balance it out rather than just have a quote calling tattle a "dark forum" and actually name it so people can see it for themselves.

If people create whole accounts just for their home and to beg for freebies they can't complain that people are talking about their home! We never allow any details that comprise privacy to remain on here and people are pretty good at reporting usually.

The tide must turn eventually, it's quite odd how they keep getting written dispite the comments sections showing how detached from the publics thoughts on influencers.

Tattle is going nowhere. These insta bints should realise it's within their own control to shut down their threads by not doing shady things.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Have these geniuses thought what would happen if Tattle did get closed down? (It won't). Something similar would spring up in its place. Of course it would. The fact it is so mega successful after just 3 years shows there is an enormous appetite for such a forum.
And anyone using twitter having the nerve to criticise here has their head firmly in the sand. I complained three times about a post which said a Jewish man who was murdered in Auschwitz 'got what he deserved' and last I checked it was still there.