I think she was semi-attractive in a girl-next-door kind of way, pre- lip fillers.
It's not surprising she's buttering up the royal family now that she's got a toff husband.
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It's not surprising she's buttering up the royal family now that she's got a toff husband.
That’s just dedication to her craft, she trying to get
up to the high notes.
A thing about Esther Rantzen just came up on my feed?.?
Underneath, several wrote of encounters with her. None were fans. She sounds pretty horrendous.
Was this Meghan Markel or our MM late of this parish, whilst he was getting pleasured and eating a Big Mac with double Fries?
It wasn’t me. I’m incapable.
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I’m not asking this in a nasty way, but what do you mean by “the types who campaign about "my body my choice"?
I totally agree with you that, if what’s rumoured to have happened to Nicole Appleton is true, it was not her choice, and it’s horrific. But people who campaign for women’s right to abortion focus on the right for a woman to chose. Are you suggesting that they should also focus on trying to stop women being coerced by others into that situation? Because the way I see it, that’s a completely different thing?
I really am just trying to understand, it’s such a sensitive topic, and I’ll happily delete this post if anyone feels it’s too off topic or just don’t like it.
It's not a separate issue; they call themselves pro-choice, and their entire mission is supposedly about women's autonomy over their bodies. The right to choose should include the right to choose not to have an abortion. It would seem less disingenuous of them if they didn't make the pretense about caring about women's autonomy overall, and were honest about the fact that they are abortion access campaigners - which would be fine.
At the moment the only people who care about forced abortion are those who call themselves pro-life, and those who identify pro-choice often actively hinder and trash their efforts to raise awareness and combat the problem. They also attack the poorly-funded services set up by self-identified pro-life groups that support women to continue their pregnancies. While there are issues with some of these services as some of them may try to persuade reluctant women to keep their babies, and are too religious, many of them don't, and also there are often no alternative services available to support women to continue pregnancies. Unless they are going to provide these services themselves, no one calling themselves "pro-choice" should be trying to take them away from women who need them.
I say "those who call themselves" for both names, because I'm aware the labels are contentious. I am also going by the behaviours mostly of American activists where the whole abortion issue is a much bigger deal than over here, both sides are more extreme.
Although there are issues over here, such as the fact that studies show that pregnant mothers of disabled children who are choosing to continue the pregnancy, feel that there is little to no support available to them, while those who make the opposite choice do feel supported.
At the moment the only people who care about forced abortion are those who call themselves pro-life, and those who identify pro-choice often actively hinder and trash their efforts to raise awareness and combat the problem. They also attack the poorly-funded services set up by self-identified pro-life groups that support women to continue their pregnancies. While there are issues with some of these services as some of them may try to persuade reluctant women to keep their babies, and are too religious, many of them don't, and also there are often no alternative services available to support women to continue pregnancies. Unless they are going to provide these services themselves, no one calling themselves "pro-choice" should be trying to take them away from women who need them.
I say "those who call themselves" for both names, because I'm aware the labels are contentious. I am also going by the behaviours mostly of American activists where the whole abortion issue is a much bigger deal than over here, both sides are more extreme.
Although there are issues over here, such as the fact that studies show that pregnant mothers of disabled children who are choosing to continue the pregnancy, feel that there is little to no support available to them, while those who make the opposite choice do feel supported.
Prince Harry buttered her up.
Hopefully not in the Last Tango In Paris sense
Just looked we were taught the first verse at primary school (didn't know there were more lines) and I still sing it cheerily when the sun comes out
Why on earth should ‘late’ (and what does ‘late’ mean - a medical abortion is anything under 12 weeks so are you referring to surgical abortions? ) termination be illegal?
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There’s no need to try to fire up an abortion debate. I said forced/coerced abortions should be illegal.
Just like her singing then? She sounds like an owl trapped in an antique shop!
I’m not trying to fire up anything? However the way that your post was worded was ambiguous, and to me looked like you were saying late abortions should be illegal. Since you’ve clarified that you meant forced abortions should be illegal, then yes, of course........but that goes without saying doesn’t it?
However Marie Stopes and other professionals are trained to have several consultations before the procedure to double and triple check with the patient, so unless someone’s marched up to the clinic with a gun at their head there’s not much more they can do.
I would be surprised if forced/ coerced abortion was legal. Surely it would come under some type of assault. You cant force someone into a medical procedure. Normally the coercion is done in private, by the father of the baby or, in this case, someone else, acting illegally. Its a form of domestic abuse and is illegal.
You were aggressively challenging what you thought was an opinion that differed from your own.
I didn’t write it carefully enough but it’s only a gossip forum, and I wasn’t taking much effort.
You may think it goes without saying but these situations are common, and no one seems to see it for the horror that it is. I was expressing shock and horror for the alleged victim.
Coerced abortions are a bigger problem than abortion clinics can be expected to deal with. In the case being talked about, her record label should be in legal trouble for forcing an abortion. If it happened today it would surely be sex discrimination.
There are studies that show a significant percentage of women feel coerced (by partners, family etc), and I think there should be a campaign to educate and empower women that it’s her body and her choice alone, she also has an inalienable right to choose NOT to have an abortion. It’s not a choice if there’s only one choice.
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Hmm, Ellie Goulding’s chinny chin chin, Phil the Greek is clinging on for that telegram from his wife, Robbie will always be the fat dancer, someone claims they saw Shane McGowan sober -pffffft! But mainly, sleb gossip morphed into Dictionary Corner 🤷🏻♀️C’mon Tattlers, sort your tit out!
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That’s the type of coercion I mean - beyond the responsibilities of clinics, the stuff that happens at home and work.
There are cases where it can’t be illegal - such as if the father says he will leave her unless she gets an abortion. You can’t force someone to stay in a relationship either. It’s these legal coercion cases where women need support if they don’t truly want an abortion.
The Appleton sister could have been told by her label that they “can’t” promote a mother, no one will buy her records any more, her young fan base won’t relate to her etc. So not outright forcing her but making it clear that her career was compromised if she didn’t.
Says ‘thread could not be found’ for me @caroleffinbaskin x
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