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It's a great song the woke generation are idiotsThe best Christmas Song ever, hate how the woke generation want it ostracised
As someone explained up thread, it’s a word that thirty years later has a meaning which is used to abuse a certain community. It’s not about wokeness. It’s about respect. Shane McGowan and the band absolutely agree so they must be idiots too.It's a great song the woke generation are idiots
Hmm. There's no eye roll reaction.
Kirsty herself didn't sing the F word on top of the pops, she changed it to "you're cheap and you're haggard". So she clearly wouldn't be too upset about it... the band themselves are most certainly not on the side of the likes of the delightful Lawrence Fox who is among those who pops an artery over something that doesn't affect them.
I assume you're not gay or bi/pan so you've never had six people scream that lyric in your face and laugh so...to anyone who gets bizarrely angry about the prospect of changing or sensoring it: Turn the crank that winds your neck back in.
Kirsty herself didn't sing the F word on top of the pops, she changed it to "you're cheap and you're haggard". So she clearly wouldn't be too upset about it... the band themselves are most certainly not on the side of the likes of the delightful Lawrence Fox who is among those who pops an artery over something that doesn't affect them.
I assume you're not gay or bi/pan so you've never had six people scream that lyric in your face and laugh so...to anyone who gets bizarrely angry about the prospect of changing or sensoring it: Turn the crank that winds your neck back in.
I hope that is a small minority of people who would think it funny to use the song in that manner. I’ve never known anyone to do so and I would hope to never be in the company of anyone who would do that.
Edited to add I am not angry irrationally or otherwise I just love the song and have never used the lyrics in a sinister way to insult any man or woman so I am clearly naive to the suffering it causes to others.
I too look miserable in economy. I bleeping hate it.
I imagine I’d be much, much happier in first if they just gave me a chance.
Most radio stations blank out the word "Slut" as well now.
And cheap lousy faggot. As a piece of art, for me, I can still appreciate it in its original form. I'd be sad if they changed it.
A lot of songs nowadays have so much swearing in they sound ridiculous on the radio. I don’t know why they bother playing WAP because it’s just all blanks!
I just read you post and thought "you know I still haven't heard that song - I wonder what WAP stands for?".
Well, I wonder no more.
Pure songwriting genius right there.
I know the faggot word has another meaning now, but I had an elderly relative in the south of Ireland who called me a "wee faggot" when I visited as a child. I'm really hoping it was a term of endearment at one point 
Well faggot is a type of meat based food I think. So maybe they meant that? My granny used to call me a wee haggis which I also think was meant to be a term of endearment....
The Wetherspoons here in my bit of Wales sells faggots and gravy - bloody delicious. Faggots are meat balls and best served with buttery mash and mushy peas.
I met Shane McGowan once at the Cambridge Folk Festival. Here's some tea for you: He was sober!!
I met Shane McGowan once at the Cambridge Folk Festival. Here's some tea for you: He was sober!!
I don’t believe you, your making it upThe Wetherspoons here in my bit of Wales sells faggots and gravy - bloody delicious. Faggots are meat balls and best served with buttery mash and mushy peas.
I met Shane McGowan once at the Cambridge Folk Festival. Here's some tea for you: He was sober!!
We used to have Mr Brains fagotts, mash and peas on a Friday night as kids, good times.
Yes thems the ones! I mean Mr Brains I was fine with till my brother told me they were real bits of brain.... head.
Fairytale ending: Shane MacGowan explains ‘faggot’ reference in Christmas song
Singer addresses controversy over reference in Pogues Christmas song
An article in which Shane speaks about the offensive lyrics in Fairytale of New York. For anyone who wants to read it.
Meatballs, mostly made with liver¹ based on the recipe I've seen. It also means a bundle of sticks, which apparently is where the meaning of "gay" came from, very indirectly (I can't remember exactly why now). In Ireland it meant "lazy" at one point, iirc, and thats how the Pogues lyric was intended (I think Shane McGowan has talked about that).
¹Not quite real brains, but close enough for some people lol
I just remember seeing faggots in that yellow foil packet in supermarkets and looked like tit in a carton
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