I have recently got rid of a top shop cardy it was a long oversized one with a fringe round the bottom and was over 30 years old, I’m bloody kicking myself now for parting with it, rats cocksI remember him. Didn’t he used to go out with Kelly Brooke? I think he did a kiss and tell on her years ago.
I remember buying a top from top shop when I was 15 in 1997 and it lasted for years. It was really good quality, but I can’t imagine anything from there lasting more than a few months now.
That’s why I told her, Karen.Calm down Jameela.I'm sure she didn't realise using his "dead name" was soooo disrespectful.
I think she is a selfish bitch to do this,it's bastards like her who are keeping Covid going.I actually quite like Rita but was it really too hard for her to have a zoom birthday this year? I bloody did and so did most of us. She can probably afford (or has the contacts to hire) some kind of hologram technology if she needs 3d!
Do you give a similar admonishing to people in the JM threads every time someone calls her a cunt or any of the other frequent insults said about her? That’s disrespectful too, much more disrespectful than not calling someone by a new name they announced three days ago. Not sure why ‘deadnaming’ is seen as particularly the ultimate worst sinI imagine he realised that that’s who he is. His wife posted that she’s proud of him. Please don’t use his deadname, it’s disrespectful.
Please don’t use the idiotic expression ‘Karen’. It’s very disrespectful - and intentionally so. Unless the person in question is a really called Karen, of courseThat’s why I told her, Karen.
The poster made a mistake, stop looking for offence where there was none intended. Though if I was going to very pedantic, you can argue that calling someone a ‘Karen’ is also offensive..That’s why I told her, Karen.
I so agree and people who are called Karen must get fed up with it.Please don’t use the idiotic expression ‘Karen’. It’s very disrespectful - and intentionally so. Unless the person in question is a really called Karen, of course
The trouble is the acceptable and correct terms change so rapidly so often a previously acceptable way to address someone is then deemed insulting. And I used to frequent gay clubs and Gay Pride but over the years the atmosphere changed so much there was often an unpleasant undercurrent especially towards straight people. Such a shameNot celeb gossip:
I'm good friends with someone who has gender identity issues (came out as a crossdresser to her wife years ago and years later is now considering the gender identity route) and even I'VE never head of "deadname" - it must be quite a new term. She is well-liked and very sociable but you do get some TV and trans women I've met who are very militant, attention-seeking and almost spoiling for a fight who maybe don't do their cause any favours.
I have even met trans women (post-op) who think they are somehow "superior" to crossdressers - which just makes me sigh with dismay.
One more mature trans woman who ran a help group was on a mission to get everyone she met to consider the gender dysphoria route, (I'm going by what I've been told by my friend).
People who have met my friend have called her, Him, He, simply because they have no idea how to behave - other than that they are friendly and eager-to-please, generally.
Remember, not all of us have experience of gender or sexuality issues - a well-meaning comment isn't usually intended to hurt, go by the person's demeanour, not their words. It could just be ignorance and lack of interaction with certain social circles.
Most people we've met on nights out are amiable and accepting. We have also had experience of gay people being horrible, in a gay pub where you'd expect to feel safe! So, you can't make assumptions about ANYbody.
TL;DR: People are complicated, say the wrong things and come with baggage, but most mean well.
I hate the term Karen as well, I've already mentioned why on older threads.
I'd agree with that too. It's getting so complicated nowadays (the "Q" in LBGTQ was an insult not so long ago - maybe the word has been reclaimed? - and even I'm not 100% sure what that term covers).The trouble is the acceptable and correct terms change so rapidly so often a previously acceptable way to address someone is then deemed insulting. And I used to frequent gay clubs and Gay Pride but over the years the atmosphere changed so much there was often an unpleasant undercurrent especially towards straight people. Such a shame
Excellent postNot celeb gossip:
I'm good friends with someone who has gender identity issues (came out as a crossdresser to her wife years ago and years later is now considering the gender identity route) and even I'VE never head of "deadname" - it must be quite a new term. She is well-liked and very sociable but you do get some TV and trans women I've met who are very militant, attention-seeking and almost spoiling for a fight who maybe don't do their cause any favours.
I have even met trans women (post-op) who think they are somehow "superior" to crossdressers - which just makes me sigh with dismay.
One more mature trans woman who ran a help group was on a mission to get everyone she met to consider the gender dysphoria route, (I'm going by what I've been told by my friend).
People who have met my friend have called her, Him, He, simply because they have no idea how to behave - other than that they are friendly and eager-to-please, generally.
Remember, not all of us have experience of gender or sexuality issues - a well-meaning comment isn't usually intended to hurt, go by the person's demeanour, not their words. It could just be ignorance and lack of interaction with certain social circles.
Most people we meet on nights out are amiable and accepting. We have also had experience of gay people being horrible, in a gay pub where you'd expect to feel safe! So, you can't make assumptions about ANYbody.
TL;DR: People are complicated, say the wrong things and come with baggage, but most mean well.
I hate the term Karen too, I've already mentioned why on older threads.
That's fair - I know most posters here are based in the UK, and I'm not. It's relatively common where I live. Regardless (and I too dislike the name Karen thrown around as an insult, I don't agree with its usage), I think calling someone 'Jameela' as a response isn't okay.I agree there’s more than enough gossip to talk about, but I don’t think it is a widely known term. I only heard of it two days ago.
She was on the ‘My Mate Bought A Toaster’ podcast last week. She said they didn’t get on originally then they realised they were both cynical about the same things do they became close mates and still are. Hadn’t realised she was only 15 when it startedMiquita Oliver is on channel 4 at the moment... does anyone know if she and Simon Amstel are still friends, or any goss from their T4 days? They seemed to work well together, especially on popworld, used to love that show and how they took the piss out of people
It's not a particularly new term, but I appreciate it's not as widely known as I thought it was. My city has a fairly sizeable population of non-binary and trans people so I'm probably biased in my viewpoint. The word queer has been reclaimed by many but not all, and it's actually pretty interesting. Here's an NPR article if anyone is curious (curious is maybe the wrong word to use in this instance, but I typed it so I'm keeping it!): https://www.npr.org/sections/public...s-reclaimed-and-listeners-have-mixed-feelingsI'd agree with that too. It's getting so complicated nowadays (the "Q" in LBGTQ was an insult not so long ago - maybe the word has been reclaimed? - and even I'm not 100% sure what that term covers).
Pansexual and all the different colours of sexuality are interesting, but we really do need simplicity - the rules and the definitions seem to be constantly changing. I bet even older gay men and women struggle with some of the terms and inadvertently "insult" some peers.
All I can advise is to be friendly and keep an open mind and hope that others respond the same. Surely we all want to be liked and accepted, but I can't deal with people who have their antenna on 24/7 looking to argue or be offended.
I did used to get "you're straight, what are you doing here?" (er, I'm out having fun with my friends?) but I'd imagine that will always happen. If you said you were bisexual it was kinda difficult to be accepted by some as you weren't "picking a team", which is just stupid.
Just try to get along, haha. Life is already hard, let's not make it tougher.
This has been on my list for a while - is it any good? Or only if I'm interested in the people on it? I like Nick Helm, don't know a lot of others though.She was on the ‘My Mate Bought A Toaster’ podcast last week. She said they didn’t get on originally then they realised they were both cynical about the same things do they became close mates and still are. Hadn’t realised she was only 15 when it started
She was on the ‘My Mate Bought A Toaster’ podcast last week. She said they didn’t get on originally then they realised they were both cynical about the same things do they became close mates and still are. Hadn’t realised she was only 15 when it started
You're right.Calling someone Jameela is probably the most offensive thing I could've said about anyone.That's fair - I know most posters here are based in the UK, and I'm not. It's relatively common where I live. Regardless (and I too dislike the name Karen thrown around as an insult, I don't agree with its usage), I think calling someone 'Jameela' as a response isn't okay.
Yeah they seemed to have a genuine laugh together.Miquita Oliver is on channel 4 at the moment... does anyone know if she and Simon Amstel are still friends, or any goss from their T4 days? They seemed to work well together, especially on popworld, used to love that show and how they took the piss out of people
I think her and Simon are friends, she's posted pics of them together on Instagram and the stories.Miquita Oliver is on channel 4 at the moment... does anyone know if she and Simon Amstel are still friends, or any goss from their T4 days? They seemed to work well together, especially on popworld, used to love that show and how they took the piss out of people
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