Especially when the child in question had a limp that FS knew about.At 16 months, it’s not reasonable to expect any child to go into town and walk without a pushchair. They can toddle around with help but not for long at all. One of my children was complaining about not having a pushchair any more when she was starting school (the other end of the spectrum lol).
On the stand, Yvonne said that she was annoyed with Frankie for bringing Star into town without her pushchair. Yvonne had carried Star from the train station to town but then felt that it was Frankie’s responsibility to carry Star because she had decided not to bring the pushchair. Which is fair enough. She told Frankie to pick Star up and got annoyed with her because she wouldn’t. At this point, she would not have been aware that the poor child had a fractured shin and skull, just to make it all even more awfulExactly, at 16 months some toddlers have only just learnt to walk. And any early learners have a few months experience of only short toddling about. You’re going to be walking at snail’s pace with older toddlers let alone a 16 month old. You’d think Yvonne would have shared this nugget of experience with Frankie.
It was mentioned earlier in this threadI couldn’t believe that the family have set up camp on the court grounds? Surely that’s a form of intimidation?
It’s just easier to take a buggy to town. just odd as to why she didn’t bring a buggy. It said earlier in the trial it was somewhere else or broken. And then it was in the bedroomOn the stand, Yvonne said that she was annoyed with Frankie for bringing Star into town without her pushchair. Yvonne had carried Star from the train station to town but then felt that it was Frankie’s responsibility to carry Star because she had decided not to bring the pushchair. Which is fair enough. She told Frankie to pick Star up and got annoyed with her because she wouldn’t. At this point, she would not have been aware that the poor child had a fractured shin and skull, just to make it all even more awfulpoor Star must have felt terrible - I can’t imagine.
As a mum of 4, there is absolutely no way on earth that I would ever contemplate going into town with a child of 3.5 or under without a pushchair. Frankie just wasn’t equipped to be a parent.
I suspect if they are there illegally they'd have been moved on.I couldn’t believe that the family have set up camp on the court grounds? Surely that’s a form of intimidation?
This is incredibly concerning. When a group of people actually considers themselves to be above the law in a mafia type way.View attachment 871626Don’t know if this has been posted before but this is on Dave Jagger Twitter comments.
Ah I see, must have missed that about Yvonne telling her off about it. So she was some use, if a little. Yes strange F didn’t bring it. I still take mine as backup and a pram is handy for carrying bags!On the stand, Yvonne said that she was annoyed with Frankie for bringing Star into town without her pushchair. Yvonne had carried Star from the train station to town but then felt that it was Frankie’s responsibility to carry Star because she had decided not to bring the pushchair. Which is fair enough. She told Frankie to pick Star up and got annoyed with her because she wouldn’t. At this point, she would not have been aware that the poor child had a fractured shin and skull, just to make it all even more awfulpoor Star must have felt terrible - I can’t imagine.
As a mum of 4, there is absolutely no way on earth that I would ever contemplate going into town with a child of 3.5 or under without a pushchair. Frankie just wasn’t equipped to be a parent.
I thought it was reported that Yvonne had a go at Frankie over the lack of pushchair and what she was doing and told her to pick Star up. Also that Yvonne had been carrying Star most of that trip and wasn't able to carry on so told Frankie to take over. That was two, maybe three weeks ago. Possibly in the transcript reporting at the time.Exactly, at 16 months some toddlers have only just learnt to walk. And any early learners have a few months experience of only short toddling about. You’re going to be walking at snail’s pace with older toddlers let alone a 16 month old. You’d think Yvonne would have shared this nugget of experience with Frankie.
Oh sorry, I've just said similar to this, hadn't seen your comment!On the stand, Yvonne said that she was annoyed with Frankie for bringing Star into town without her pushchair. Yvonne had carried Star from the train station to town but then felt that it was Frankie’s responsibility to carry Star because she had decided not to bring the pushchair. Which is fair enough. She told Frankie to pick Star up and got annoyed with her because she wouldn’t. At this point, she would not have been aware that the poor child had a fractured shin and skull, just to make it all even more awfulpoor Star must have felt terrible - I can’t imagine.
As a mum of 4, there is absolutely no way on earth that I would ever contemplate going into town with a child of 3.5 or under without a pushchair. Frankie just wasn’t equipped to be a parent.
Would she really do that during a trial when she is supposed to be acting like an innocent women? I don’t think so.View attachment 871626Don’t know if this has been posted before but this is on Dave Jagger Twitter comments.
I wouldn’t put it past her, she needs to get her anger out somehow she can’t do it in the stand and show herself for who she really is and FS has always been a punchbag to her.Would she really do that during a trial when she is supposed to be acting like an innocent women? I don’t think so.
This is standard in the travelling community. I have mates who are nurses and they dread travellers being admitted because dozens of family members set up camp on the car park, nearby grass verges etc for the duration of the patient's stay. Police do nothing. Travellers stick together. I have no doubt FS is being intimidated in prison by travellers. If you upset one you upset them all, there aren't really that many Romany gypsies in the Uk (google tells me around 200k) and they are tightly interconnected and fiercely defensive of their own. SB's comments about her family being superior to FS's illustrates this. To their way of thinking, a bad gypsy is still a million times better than any gorja.I couldn’t believe that the family have set up camp on the court grounds? Surely that’s a form of intimidation?
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