It was for dehydration coz of the salt, i read
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Actually, not sure if it was fake news or not tbh
I don’t usually wish harm on others either but in the case of SB she really does deserve all she gets. I really can’t fathom how she behaved at a murder trial for a baby a baby she supposedly loved not. She will be on a protective wing but they are not always bullet proof, someone will try and get their hands on her.
I haven’t seen any reliable reports.
Exactly. I think FS knew exactly what SB was doing but was too afraid to stick up for her daughter.To me 'I'm not blaming you' sounds like total fear of SB and the consequences to both FS and Star if she had said I AM blaming you
Which makes her absolutely guilty of allowing her death.
Thanks for updating me
Maybe she just didn't want to argue about it that day, maybe she had had arguments about this before but she knew mentioning that she suspected just caused a big scene so she was playing it down.....so its like look I can't ignore this but I don't want your wrath either
That's quite contradictory though ... She was afraid to stick up for her daughter, she tried to by questioning, the added bit was her shrinking back, she said in court she went through phases of feeling brave
its one of a couple of recent occasions where I honestly think they fully deserve whatever comes their way. It'll still be nothing close to the horrors endured by that little girl, she never stood a chance with these two around her.
Totally agree with thisTo me 'I'm not blaming you' sounds like total fear of SB and the consequences to both FS and Star if she had said I AM blaming you
I think that the main reason FS was found guilty of allowing Star’s death is that even after she admitted she became suspicious, she was still asking SB to take her the following weekend.
Totally agree. But in shrinking back she allowed her death.
I think this will have been a pattern throughout the toxic relationship, 'Im not putting up with this, I am leaving you.....to then being back together a few weeks later.'
Apparently (according to the ex-cons on the HMP Styal group) this is SB’s cousin Kelly, who’s been ‘protecting her’ on the inside.
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I think this is one area where we will never agree. I’ll just say that FS did cancel visits from SS on a number of occasions, it was reported in court, not just the housing association guy. The only time Star was seen by a doctor was when the police took her to hospital. This baby seems to have been born unlucky, if that’s the right word. Even on that single occasion she was seen, it was by a junior doctor with 4 months experience rather than someone more experienced who may have rung alarm bells.
I don’t particularly care about FS’s messages, as words are just that words. Her baby was screaming in pain with her broken leg, FS admitted this, her baby had other injuries including severe bruising and she just talked about taking the baby to see a doctor. This wasn’t an isolated incident, this happened over a number of months and never did she actually seek medical help for Star. What kind of human sees a baby screaming in pain (let alone your own baby) when her leg is touched and forces that baby to walk on it?
As much as we can all say she should of took the baby to see a doctor, this was during lockdown how hard was it to actually see a doctor? I still can’t get a face to face appointment it’s all over the phone, what are they going to diagnose with that?
SB I agree deserves whatever comes to her. FS I honestly don’t wish her any harm, she was cruel to her own baby which she has admitted she has shown remorse. I do think she should serve some time in prison. I wouldn’t even put FS in the category of SB, ET and TH in Arthur's case.
and had her at the flat on the day of stars death. It will be interesting to see if there’s any mention of all the photos of bruising and FS behaviours afterwards in the sentencing statement
She should have taken her, there’s no question of that, even if it was over the phone initially or whatever. To my mind it seems like she was trying but she was strongly discouraged by SB and the high compliance came into play.
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