100% agree. She was young, the way teen mums/single mums are spoke of in such a negative way she was probably embarrassed and didn’t want to put SB off.She wouldn’t be the first person to say she didn’t have a child when she does. And the evidence from Alicia that F wouldn’t let alone hold Star for long because she wanted her back indicates far more to me how she felt about Star.
Ok thanks I struggle to place all the family. But Alicia and frankie are sisters, but Alicia and Frankie are half sisters? Is that right?Ben isn't actually YS's son though.
Before following the trial, and hearing the evidence I believed FS was equally responsible as I'm sure most people did. Those who still believe she is guilty of murder have obviously not read the evidence.It's really worrying that Joe Public are so black and white about things. The amount of people who write 'They should both be done for murder and put away for a long time' don't seem to be able to think a thought right through to its end. How can you want to put someone away for murder, the most grievous and punished crime in our society, when there is zero evidence that individual did it?
Can't they think about the implications of an individual or society who agrees with that? Don't they understand that if that happened to them/their son/daughter/parent they might think that is slightly unfair? Baying for blood and ignoring burden of proof and justice is a very dodgy path to go down. History has taught us that.
Yes, Frankie and Alicia are YS's, different dad. Ben and Frankie share a dad (Anita's son).Ok thanks I struggle to place all the family. But Alicia and frankie are sisters, but Alicia and Frankie are half sisters? Is that right?
Alicia has a different dad, yes.Ok thanks I struggle to place all the family. But Alicia and frankie are sisters, but Alicia and Frankie are half sisters? Is that right?
Agree with this. I had my daughter at 20 as a single young parent I was made to feel massively ashamed. 90% of men... scrub that boys that were interested in me were put off by the fact I was a parent. Not that I would ever deny that but I was a resilient, confident,independent young woman. I also was a bit older.100% agree. She was young, the way teen mums/single mums are spoke of in such a negative way she was probably embarrassed and didn’t want to put SB off.
I’ve had grown adult men deny their children in an attempt to woo me so I don’t find it that alarming that a teenage girl would too.
I have read all the evidence and I believe she is guilty of allowing or causing, it seems on here if you say that it means you haven't read the transcripts each day, or you are doubting she has low IQ, DV or vulnerabilities.Before following the trial, and hearing the evidence I believed FS was equally responsible as I'm sure most people did. Those who still believe she is guilty of murder have obviously not read the evidence.
I really don’t know how you come to that conclusion. There are several people who feel that way, including LittleMy who starts the threads.I have read all the evidence and I believe she is guilty of allowing or causing, it seems on here if you say that it means you haven't read the transcripts each day, or you are doubting she has low IQ, DV or vulnerabilities.
I think it’s when people say she’s guilty of murder and she’s just as bad as SB that it seems they haven’t read the transcripts. I don’t think she’s guilty on either count but I completely understand why others do.I have read all the evidence and I believe she is guilty of allowing or causing, it seems on here if you say that it means you haven't read the transcripts each day, or you are doubting she has low IQ, DV or vulnerabilities.
Nobody is wrong either way. She could be found guilty in spite of her vulnerabilities or not guilty because of her vulnerabilities. It really is 50/50. I would not like to be on that jury.I have read all the evidence and I believe she is guilty of allowing or causing, it seems on here if you say that it means you haven't read the transcripts each day, or you are doubting she has low IQ, DV or vulnerabilities.
It was when the prosecution read out all the injuries that were done over a period of time. It made me think nobody could not know that abuse was happening.I really don’t know how you come to that conclusion. There are several people who feel that way, including LittleMy who starts the threads.
I'm up and down tbh, which I'm sure the jury are too. I don't believe she should walk free as I think she needs help at the very least to make sure she knows what she did and allowed was a crime. No doubt in my mind she was cruel beyond belief and she has to face the consequences, which I don't believe Star's death is enough. So... as causing/allowing is the only other charge on the table, I suppose I agree with you. I'm so glad I'm not on that juryI have read all the evidence and I believe she is guilty of allowing or causing, it seems on here if you say that it means you haven't read the transcripts each day, or you are doubting she has low IQ, DV or vulnerabilities.
It's funny isn't it because YS actually said she would decide whether or not to support FS, after the trial. She wanted to wait and hear the evidence before making a decision. That is a pretty sophisticated thought process.I was thinking the other day, when it first made the news that FS and SB had been charged with murder I saw the comments saying Star banged her head while both FS and SB were out of the room so I was super confused but then I saw all the “Justice for Savanna” posts/pages and I assumed she was the innocent one and it was actually FS who was guilty. At the time David’s post about the bruises on Star’s face was still visible on Facebook so I though SB was just implicated because they were in a relationship but she may not have done anything wrong. It’s crazy how social media comments and posts can build a completely different picture to the facts.
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