Sarah Everard

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Her second tweet in response to someone... I mean!? Here in the UK, it's dark by 3pm in the winter months, so by her logic, we can't be out alone past this time!?

Good for millionaire Davina who can afford taxis or drivers. Not everyone has that luxury, or have dogs to walk, or don’t drive when they need to go to the shops etc.

She’s really digging herself out here
 
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I dunno, I wouldn’t want to start shooting down men that do appreciate our points of view and are aware of how they can come across to women so adapt their behaviour in a positive way. I struggle to articulate what I mean sometimes but I think it’s good that men will talk about this and the ones that are trying to learn shouldn’t be slapped down, it should be the start of more conversations.
Trust me, those men don't mind. Because they get it.
 
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It’s okay, it shouldn’t have happened but it did sadly. I now work in retail with a team who are proactive in calling out customers who make inappropriate remarks/do inappropriate things towards female staff. I work in a town that’s rife with crime, homelessness & addiction, it’s really sad. I have had a customer literally throw things at me and say some really nasty inappropriate things. Was swiftly reported to the police & he was given a ban from the town centre. My management team are both male & backed me fully. They’re brilliant compared to the NHS.
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I am so glad you now have a great support system ❤
 
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Maybe I'm naive, but if an 'unmarked' car stopped me and said I was being followed, warrant card or not, I wouldn't be going in the car. I know you can't always say exactly what you would do, but I'd like to think that I'd thank them for warning me and ask them to wait with me whilst I called my dad/friend/etc etc. I just cannot see myself getting in an unmarked car, willingly.
I wonder if he knocked her over and bundled her in the car
 
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Makes me so angry. What a bleeping victim blaming idiot. How do nurses get to work? How do carers get to work? How do lawyers working long hours get to work? How do female police officers working shifts get to work? She can get to duck. Not everyone has a chauffer and if we catch a taxi, we'll be broke and might still be grape or assaulted. What an absolute tit bag she is.
Exactly! I work normal office hours, but with my commute I'd have to leave the office by 1:30pm to get home before it gets dark in winter! :rolleyes: She really hasn't a clue.
 
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I dunno, I wouldn’t want to start shooting down men that do appreciate our points of view and are aware of how they can come across to women so adapt their behaviour in a positive way. I struggle to articulate what I mean sometimes but I think it’s good that men will talk about this and the ones that are trying to learn shouldn’t be slapped down, it should be the start of more conversations.
I understand what you’re saying but I think we just view it differently. I don’t think a man who feels the need to jump to his own defence when no one personally accused him is appreciating our points of view.
 
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I feel like women have just lived life taking extra precortions for so long that we’ve felt it’s normal to be afraid like this but this has highlighted that it isn’t normal or ok or fair.

I think some people can’t understand why there’s been this reaction but it’s heartbreaking this has happened and it’s started the conversations about how women feel most of the time and would really like to not feel afraid anymore.
 
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Her second tweet in response to someone... I mean!? Here in the UK, it's dark by 3pm in the winter months, so by her logic, we can't be out alone past this time!?

i just think it’s a very naive approach for her to take. I can’t take my dog out at 6am like my husband, or I can’t go for a late evening stroll listening to my podcasts like him through our local beauty spot. While I suppose I can, but it’s a fact of life I am a greater degree of risk of sexual assault or theft by a male perpetrator and the statistics will show this time and time again. The problem is we don’t talk about it or challenge the narrative, we just accept it. It’s also generational as I know god forbid if anything were to happen to me, my mum in her 50s would probably victim blame me for going out on such an isolated walk or in the dark!
 
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I honestly find it hard to believe the narrative that it’s only a tiny small minority of men that are dangerous and frighten women on purpose. When 97% of women in the UK have reported being sexually harassed, surely it’s not just a teeny tiny percentage of men doing all that harassing 🤔
 
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I understand what you’re saying but I think we just view it differently. I don’t think a man who feels the need to jump to his own defence when no one personally accused him is appreciating our points of view.
Yes I understand that too. It is slightly different perceptions but I’m glad that men are talking about it, it does feel a bit different this time and I like to think some men will think about the way they come across to women at times. And that from there they will start to call out their friends on their behaviours. I’d guess quite a few of us here will have worked with groups of men who have had no shame in making sexual jokes to women in the workplace. I know I’ve had the ‘while you’re down there’ comment more than once in an office environment and all the guys laughed. The more this all becomes a conversation the more I hope these behaviours change.
 
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Just reading an article online about them searching abandoned tunnels that back on to the family business (I’m assuming although it’s not used they do still own it?) and that a metal wall has been erected at his own property. To me this just doesn’t scream a case of him accidentally running her over and trying to conceal the evidence. It seems... big. My heart absolutely breaks for Sarah’s family right now.
 
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I certainly have my thoughts on that
If those thoughts are that some policeman hurt him, I doubt it. They'd be putting themselves in danger of legal repercussions and putting the reputation of the police at further risk when that's already been tarnished by what Couzens is accused off while in the service and the alleged failure's to properly investigate possible actions of his days before Sarah Everard vanished.
 
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I bet the little tit will try to claim he's not fit to stand trial or some other bull.
 
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Do they really? That shocks me
Usually I have foreigners apologise to me for their “bad English” and i am always gobsmacked because their English is fine bearing in mind the most I can say in any other language is bs like “das ist ein hund” (that is a dog) looool
Exactly why would you find it offensive that someone is impressed with your language skills? I for one would be most flattered if anyone was with mine 🤷‍♀️
 
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I can't get this story out of my head. I've literally thought about nothing else.

For the first time in my 42yrs of life i want to get out on marches and demos. I WANT to support this #reclaimthestreets movement

I too have many stories. I was a young slut, basically thought if i got attention I should be grateful yada yada. The amount of times I've had sex when i didn't really want to but felt it was easier or expected of me. The amount of times I've been roaring drunk and gone home with complete strangers. The amount of near misses etc


This poor woman and her outcome has broke me.

I truly hope this brings about the so desperately overdue changes we need in society.
 
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Years ago in the seventies, my friend and I were in town at a bus stop after school. We were at a convent so think boaters, blazers and dresses; a p’s dream.
There were other adults at the stop. One of them -a man in his twenties - came up behind my friend and started rubbing himself against her. He then started groaning. She moved slightly and he did too. Neither my friend nor I said anything -unbelievable now. However, none of the other adults at the stop said or did anything either despite the fact it was clear to all.
Looking back I can’t believe we didn’t challenge him and I know for a fact if my daughter was in the same position he’d be lucky to be standing.
 
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Boo boo, men might be sad. Their mental health might suffer. Well so did mine when a man thought it was ok to put his hands up my skirt and touch me because I kissed him on a night out. I slapped him and people were more outraged that I had hit someone than they were that he had just tried to put his fingers in me in the middle of a club. I don’t give two people if men are sad. 97% of women are sad that they’ve had to put up with men’s tit for so long. Sarah’s family are sad as well as the families of so many other women that have lost their daughters due to men’s actions. Davina is so far off the mark here.
 
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