He parked ít up with the lights on and all doors open as well- just like a cop. Plain clothes.
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I think it is the same as (in my very laymans term view) as that killing a police officer (for example) is considered a "bigger" crime than just a random person. If you killl a police officer you are not just killing someone, but you are trying to disrupt society in a bigger way, so vice versa it kind of also is the same (awful explanation but..)
Yeah if he pretended to be a taxi that’s different than using actual real Met police warrant card and handcuffs. If attacking a police officer is an attack on “the state” then an attack by a police officer is an abuse of the states power, against a citizen
My friend used to work for the Met and he said the abuse of women is rife, officers do report it but nothing gets done until it is too late.
God I just hate them all. Him, his pissy mates who covered for him, the smarmy officials who come on television as smug as you like acting like it’s an unforeseen issue, the politicians who pretend they give a tit yet do nothing but cut cut cut.
The point of this that every spokesperson is missing is that Sarah’s life could have been saved ten times over if there had been adequate funding, medical intervention and supervision of these officers.
WHERE is the mandated psychiatric supervision they should be receiving yearly? Where is a specialist doctor who can recognise signs of competency/narcissism/pyschiatric wellness? Where is the counselling that SHOULD be forced?
Where is the additional funding so there is no instance where they are not single crewed? Where is the increased staffing so you don’t have single teams working 60/70 hours a week? Where is the pastoral training ever team receive to recognise the signs in their colleagues? When was the last time a whistle blowing policy was updated? When was the last time that enough management was hired that they knew their officers inside and out? When was the last time individualist welfare/performance/attitude was placed above a bleeping collar number or statistic?
Wayne Cousens should NEVER have been allowed onto the force. Had he received adequate psychiatric assessment his depravity and his sociopathy would have been recognised. That is taking out the absolute criminal incompetence of his past record going overlooked/ignored. What is terrifying is that we’ve caught ONE. There’ll be more. There’ll be firemen too, doctors, ambulance staff, medics, prison guards - all of them.
We are putting our trust into a small group of individuals that they are good people and they can keep us safe. If they pass the initial psychiatric tests that’s them approved for thirty years. IT IS 2021 AND THAT NEEDS TO bleeping CHANGE.
Sarah and every other woman and man like her lie at the foot on number ten and on the steps of parliament who have been approving cut after cut after cut.
There needs to be an independent body set up that assesses the mental capacity of every single member of emergency services staff on a yearly/bi-yearly basis because when there’s a rotten egg or when another egg cracks it goes unnoticed, unrecognised or wholly ignored until somebody bleeping dies.
The point of this that every spokesperson is missing is that Sarah’s life could have been saved ten times over if there had been adequate funding, medical intervention and supervision of these officers.
WHERE is the mandated psychiatric supervision they should be receiving yearly? Where is a specialist doctor who can recognise signs of competency/narcissism/pyschiatric wellness? Where is the counselling that SHOULD be forced?
Where is the additional funding so there is no instance where they are not single crewed? Where is the increased staffing so you don’t have single teams working 60/70 hours a week? Where is the pastoral training ever team receive to recognise the signs in their colleagues? When was the last time a whistle blowing policy was updated? When was the last time that enough management was hired that they knew their officers inside and out? When was the last time individualist welfare/performance/attitude was placed above a bleeping collar number or statistic?
Wayne Cousens should NEVER have been allowed onto the force. Had he received adequate psychiatric assessment his depravity and his sociopathy would have been recognised. That is taking out the absolute criminal incompetence of his past record going overlooked/ignored. What is terrifying is that we’ve caught ONE. There’ll be more. There’ll be firemen too, doctors, ambulance staff, medics, prison guards - all of them.
We are putting our trust into a small group of individuals that they are good people and they can keep us safe. If they pass the initial psychiatric tests that’s them approved for thirty years. IT IS 2021 AND THAT NEEDS TO bleeping CHANGE.
Sarah and every other woman and man like her lie at the foot on number ten and on the steps of parliament who have been approving cut after cut after cut.
There needs to be an independent body set up that assesses the mental capacity of every single member of emergency services staff on a yearly/bi-yearly basis because when there’s a rotten egg or when another egg cracks it goes unnoticed, unrecognised or wholly ignored until somebody bleeping dies.
i totally agree with you. However even the best of psychiatrists and psychologists can miss out on seeing anti social personality disorders. Psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissistic (all ASPDs) are adept at hiding their true selves, even from professionals.
the sad reality is that policing is a career that is perfect for ASPD individuals in many ways.
The lack of empathy will make them, seemingly, good police officers. Their empathetic colleagues will take their job home with them, they’ll be at risk for developing substance abuse problems or mental health issues. But a psychopath/person with ASPD will sleep soundly every night without a care for any victims of crimes they’ve encountered during the world day and so on the face of it, will seem like very capable and excellent officers.
psychopaths don’t feel the full spectrum of emotions that “normal” people do. While a normal officer in a high pressure situation - for example, a multiple arrest or tackling a riot - is more suspectible to making mistakes or reacting emotionally, a psychopath will be able to remain calm, cool and collected. They won’t feel fear the same way as their colleagues. So in this way too, they are excellent officers.
then of course, psychopaths will thrive on the position of power that they have as a police officer.
one element of ASPDs is a lack of respect for rules and the law. I’d hazard a guess that being extremely draconian with law/rule breaking would serve as a better filter for getting rid of wrong uns, than a extensive psychiatric/psychological evaluation.
In other words; sociopaths/psychopaths are more likely to break the law at some point. So by making sure that all law and rule breaking (in the case of WC, the flashing incidents and WhatsApp messages) is an automatic pyschological evaluation and/or firing offence - the likes of WCs wouldn’t be able to operate in this capacity.
I think you’re absolutely right. There are going to be some that fall through the net regardless of what intervention is out in place. Hopefully if the vetting becomes more stringent in the upcoming years it may seem less of an appealing job.
I find it baffling that ANY instance of rule breaking isn’t immediate dismissal, no matter how minor. How can they lead without example? Makes me boil.
very true. i think the main issue is clearly the whole culture of the police, the fact his colleagues just sat by and listened to him, joked about him being a rapist or whatever id just staggering. they should all be sacked too imo
I've had 3 acquaintances that have had policeman boyfriends/husbands. and all have been mistreated.
One woman found her bf shagging someone else, dumped him, and then he got his police mates to stop her every time she was out driving. It was only because her father was a local councillor and threatened that he would take the Chief Constable to court that it stopped.
The second basically made his wife a virtual prisoner and cut her off from her friends and family.
The third knocked my acquaintance about, but left the face, so no one would on the surface know.
In my local area, a PC is in court for allegedly raping a woman while she was drunk (he wasn't).
The police is seen as power, and that's why so many nutjobs seem to gravitate to it.
One woman found her bf shagging someone else, dumped him, and then he got his police mates to stop her every time she was out driving. It was only because her father was a local councillor and threatened that he would take the Chief Constable to court that it stopped.
The second basically made his wife a virtual prisoner and cut her off from her friends and family.
The third knocked my acquaintance about, but left the face, so no one would on the surface know.
In my local area, a PC is in court for allegedly raping a woman while she was drunk (he wasn't).
The police is seen as power, and that's why so many nutjobs seem to gravitate to it.
I don't trust the police. Whenever I see them I try to avoid them tbh.
I had a couple of unpleasant encounters - once I was stopped for crossing the road when the traffic light was red and the way this young police officer spoke to me was unacceptable. He called me names, was sarcastic and horrible.
Once I was lost at night in another country and I saw a group of police men chatting, I approached them to ask the way to my hotel and was told that they would the the police and not "the tourist information". Thanks for nothing.
I had a couple of unpleasant encounters - once I was stopped for crossing the road when the traffic light was red and the way this young police officer spoke to me was unacceptable. He called me names, was sarcastic and horrible.
Once I was lost at night in another country and I saw a group of police men chatting, I approached them to ask the way to my hotel and was told that they would the the police and not "the tourist information". Thanks for nothing.
Doesn’t surprise me at all.
My other half was in the police for ten years before he just had enough. The abuse of power, the manipulation of the system, the hypocrisy and double standards caused him to have a mental breakdown and nearly resulted in him taking his own life.
It is not a system built for good people trying to help. They join, last a few years and have to leave. The small majority who care are chewed up, spat out and thrown to the curb and have to choose whether to surrender their integrity or their pension.
The entire institution needs a complete gut and overhaul. My partner was in a very small constabulary and it was RIFE, some of the stories he has about larger forces make your head spin and this was reported by staff, by colleagues, by members of the public and very often upstairs simply made it go away. It was never dealt with properly and when someone reported something it was NEVER kept anonymous.
He will not call the police and he was one. Our nephew said he wanted to join up and it was the first argument they have ever had.
I used to work for a domestic violence helpline. The women who called would sometimes mention their partner’s professions. There were a large amount of teachers and police men. The police seemed to be the most sadistic.
I always remember having a visit from a policeman at school where they told us tale of two men on a roof, one was under arrest and the other was holding a gun. The man under arrest shouted 'Let him have it' where the man with gun shot a policeman. He asked us what he thought the man meant? We are agreed that he meant shoot him, and he was hung.
Of course the policeman left out one or two details....
1) The man arrested had a mental age of 11.
2) Was cuffed
3) The shooter was 16 and therefore couldn't be hung.
It's also been suggested since then that the shot that killed the policeman came from the police in cross fire.
The police and the Home Secretary wanted revenge and therefore killed a vulnerable person. A couple of years ago, the executed person was given a pardon, and was later exonerated.
It was the case of Derek Bentley. If the option of capital punishment was still about in the 70's, Stefan Kisko, Bridgewater 4, Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Judith Ward etc. would have been in their graves.
Of course the policeman left out one or two details....
1) The man arrested had a mental age of 11.
2) Was cuffed
3) The shooter was 16 and therefore couldn't be hung.
It's also been suggested since then that the shot that killed the policeman came from the police in cross fire.
The police and the Home Secretary wanted revenge and therefore killed a vulnerable person. A couple of years ago, the executed person was given a pardon, and was later exonerated.
It was the case of Derek Bentley. If the option of capital punishment was still about in the 70's, Stefan Kisko, Bridgewater 4, Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Judith Ward etc. would have been in their graves.
He’s launched an appeal
Well he can launch it. Whether it will make any difference to his situation is another matter.
Sure fire way to get extra spit in your lunch I reckon.
Sure fire way to get extra spit in your lunch I reckon.
He has no conscience.
I don't think he realises what damage he has done and how wrong it was to not only grape and kill but also abuse trust and deceive to this extend.
I don't think he realises what damage he has done and how wrong it was to not only grape and kill but also abuse trust and deceive to this extend.
Even if he got 25yrs surely he doesn't think he'd ever be safe on release ? he'd never be able to go back to a normal existance in society he'd always be looking over his shoulder .
Probably thinks he will get the plastic surgery and new identity lark. I believe he is arrogant enough and probably dark triad personality. I think he thought before he did it that he would “only” get life if caught, plead guilty like a good boy.
He's obviously not grasped the severity of what he's done to that girl and her family and to the public when you see how much his actions have affected people ...Deluded much ! he's got a dark mind ,even more reason to throw away the key .
Exactly- he seems entitled and arrogant he’s probably a psychopath and has no emotions. I don’t think he grasps what he has done at all.