They called her Prawn for starters , a lot of tweets got deleted or accounts made private when they realised we were able to state Sali was a bully herself but one of our ownCan someone quickly sum up what Sali and her minions were saying to Dawn? I can’t imagine what they could have been saying. Dawn is so utterly cool, clever and gorgeous and seems to be a nice down to earth personality. Or was it all jealousy?
Also assessing my presence here. I stand by what I previously posted about this site v trolling, because I think they are different.If I moan about someone who irritates me, out of their earshot, that is me moaning. Maybe I have a point, maybe not, but as the old saying goes, people who listen at doors never hear good about themselves. It's not bullying, it's not trolling. What people think of you is none of your business.
Any comments on here re Sali's personal appearance or family have been quickly shot down in general. 99% of comments here have been about a lack of honesty and that terrible guardian article which still somehow persists. There has also been justified criticism of her trolling not only Dawn but her tweets on the appearance of multiple other female celebrities, her getting a female writer sacked so she could take her job, and her clear disdain for the general public. All within a contained site.
This makes perfect sense and I would be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt if there weren’t such staggering sums of money involved. The beauty industry now contributes more to the U.K. economy than the automobile industry does.I've been thinking about influencers in general regarding what has been discussed here recently. It's such a new world that we don't know the effects of it yet. Who is to say that how these people are earning their money is okay? How do we know how damaging it is to their viewers? I've opened my eyes and wisened up to it, but it breaks my heart thinking of young girls, insecure people, lonely people who are sucked in by these influencers chatting away as if they are a friend, people getting into debt and feeling not good enough. It's so different to advertising we originally saw in magazines. These influencers are letting us in to their whole lives, showing their relationships and family life. Recommending products isnt just a photo and a caption in a magazine now, its a sit down video chatting us through the product. The ASA are not doing enough yet. That's what brings me to this thread as it's actually quite refreshing to see others seeing these influencers and what they post, taking a step back and thinking wait is this ethical/okay.
The influencer world is so new. Are we just meant to accept it and keep quiet? The influencers themselves don't want to engage in discussion, yet discussing them on here is unacceptable. And by discussing I mean discussing their unethical and shady behaviour, not trolling them and their families which I have no time for.
Its been a long day at work hopefully this made some sense
I love youThis makes perfect sense and I would be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt if there weren’t such staggering sums of money involved. The beauty industry now contributes more to the U.K. economy than the automobile industry does.
And as with most things the devil is in the detail.. for example perhaps we can all agree the ex-towie lot flogging laxative tea they’ve never even tried is bad but a pink-tinted mineral oil cream for older women being sold for a humongous markup is ok if the buyer can afford it? Who gets to draw the line? And is it not ok to even have the conversation?
I would prefer it If tattle threads didn’t come up in search results.Agree. I feel like any dialogue would be shouted down and chalked up to online abuse.
It’s a tricky one. Some threads on here are awful. But this one is just mainly some ex fans, standing in front of an influencer, asking her to be honest about her ads!
I think modern life is really quite lonely and the idea that we all have a big WhatsApp group of mates who watch the same Instagrammers etc as us is unreasonable. Most people on this forum have family commitments, busy jobs, illness, elderly/ill relatives to name a few. Much harder to make friends than the average instagrammer/Youtuber who gets invited to tonnes of networking events as part of their daily job.I read the tweet re D and E.
The reminded me of the other tweets posted on here. Gossiping on WhatsApp fine, gossiping on here bad.
Then the tweets about Dawn. She’s sorry they upset her. Not sorry about what she said or really that she said it.
just makes me think of ‘I’m not sorry I don’t it, just sorry I got caught’
Very well said. I know absolutely nothing about Lisa Eldridges personal life. And the only reason I know anything about Sali's family is from her own articles and tweets which she chose to write.Ethically & morally there is, in my mind, a significant difference between Sali with her power, platform, reach & influence bitching & trolling on Twitter/Insta and our comments on here. Whether it is Owen Jones, Esther Walker, Dawn O’P, Lauren Luke...the impact personally & professionally of a ‘Blue Ticker’ going after you is much greater. If Sali is upset by a few harsh but true/fair & piss-taking threads on here, she either needs to get out of the public eye or take on board the feedback, acknowledge where she’s got it wrong & change. And then it would stop. It is no coincidence that Lisa Eldridge, Caroline Barnes & other beauty content providers don’t get the same grief - it’s because they appear to behave with integrity & act/speak consistently. They also don’t use their private lives as fodder. I’m afraid it is a case of chickens coming home to roost, and though it may hurt Sali’s feelings, she holds the remedy in her hands.
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