You are a life saver! I usually come to the start of each thread to read what’s going on but I was so confused this time. Thank you!A lot, I'll try to Recap for you, starting back in December:
-They get dropped by Gleam after management changed hands but pass it off as they've outgrown Gleam
-Jono revealed Eduardo likes to wear dresses during vlogmas, when he said dresses and made a vlog compilation it was all princess dresses and dress ups
-He then starts to put Eduardo as his front runner on TikTok, Eduardo wearing princess dresses, then Emilias clothes, then they got gifted clothing and kids heels from VeryUK for him
-People watching the TikToks start to get fed up with Jono exploiting Eduardos choice to dress up, so he pushes it further identifying Eduardos pronouns as they/them, then back tracking saying "it changes every day" and more people start to hate the content
-Tattle starts to blow up as more and more people move here to find other people sick of Jonos tactics and with concern for Eduardo’s safety at school
-Then Jono starts to discuss "his own journey" of finding himself, removed his pronouns from his IG bio and changes it to "finding myself blah blah" tagging a literary agent we suspect is ghost writing a book for him about his "terrible childhood"
-Jono goes further off the rails, a lot of people here describing it as manic (agreed)
-Eduardo wears the school dress to school for two days then returns to the trousers. Emilia described it as "the worst day of her life" (on his IG stories so sorry guys it's been removed), later Jono says he didn't have permission from the school for Eduardo to wear the dress because "you don't need permission to be yourself"
-Jono begins doing his drunk Q+As on IG talking about explicit content from his "high sex drive" (Anna later showed her period app with only three interactions of intercourse since the beginning of the year) and "alluding to the journey coming forth)
-He then posts to his stories about his ADHD and how he's learnt to cope growing up and doesn't take medications for it because he's used to it all. He discussed "going from high to low low to high up to 50 times a day sometimes" and queries about potential bipolar disorder requiring treatment came into discussion on Tattle
-Tattle suspects he's going to come out as non-binary for his journey and completely disappoint the minions - who are already sick of him not telling them what the journey is and bouncing around the point
-He then buys himself some ugly af skirts and Eduardo some ugly af trash bag looking womens dresses so they can match for a TikTok, Eduardo looks miserable. Jono also buys some long tshirts, none of these clothes are worn outside his office.
-Just in this last week is when it gets a bit crazy (10+ pages in 24 hours guys I can't keep up HAHA)
SO, it's mostly speculation because they aren't revealing anything. But something happened two days ago (a school day) that they had to test themselves for covid for, and when they came back Jono said he was really mad about people questioning him and Annas parenting and "questions they'd been asked" and that people they thought were on his side now weren't and he was angry at everyone. Anna in the vlog is then crying about how hard everything has been and how "this week which we obviously can't talk about has been so hard". Suspicion that the school is either not happy with them for making Eduardo wear a dress to school, making the kids miserable at school and home, them swearing in class, exploitation of kids on TikTok, the list goes on because of all the awful things that they've done over their time as "parents". The fact they can't talk about it makes it more serious because every other time social services had "called them because they have a good relationship" they've gone straight to the vlog and bitched that the "trolls" are out to get them. Jono said in his IGTV that this isn't the "trolls" so it must be a complaint from someone at the school or the school themselves.
Obviously so much more has happened not directly related to this situation, but this is the direction things have gone on the journey.
(I'm going to copy this into the notes on my phone, I'll do the Recap from now on)
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They just haven't a clue how to be parents, it's really odd, the common sense, instinct just isn't there for them. They're a laughing stock, they haven't a single friend as they're so weird. I wonder what the nanny is thinking watching johnno unravelling - I'd be out of that madhouse in a flash. These two are toxic together. Such a pity they had so many kids to absolutely ruin. Can you imagine the mindset of a woman having kids just for vlogging purposes.An adult with a fever would struggle to hold that glass, never mind a toddler! I was getting anxiety as they were coming down the stairs, thinking she's gonna drop it any minute. You can see that E1 is very aware of it too, she glances at the camera and figures well daddy has his hands full of camera so he isnt going to help. She looks down at her glass as if willing it not to fall. Any decent parent would not let a small child carry a glass of water down the stairs, never mind a sick one! It makes me so angry
You could be right! It's hard to see as the camera was facing A. If so, it makes it all the more vile that her mother glared at her instead of being concerned. Why on earth was a toddler alone in the bedroom with a fever and risk of choking on vomit in the first place. When any of mine were sick like that they had a bed made up on the sofa where they could have supervision and company.
Somebody gave a fantastic update a few pages back.
He hasn't officially announced what he identifies as, we are assuming based off what he's said and his clothing choices. We could be wrong but he's holding off on coming out as anything until his book is announced no doubt
Omg! I’ve just watched some of his videos. I completely understand if his son wants to wear a dress or whatever gender/ sexuality Jon wants to be identified as. But I felt physically sickened when I saw the videos he has put out of his children. Why would you do that to them? Why would you expose them to the cruel world of social media at such a young age?
It seems very contrived and that he is just using the children to make money. Let the children be children.
It seems very contrived and that he is just using the children to make money. Let the children be children.
You’re absolutely right, they’ve always been tit parents. I do feel like there is a vast difference between the way she treated the Es to the way they treat the As though. Especially Alessia. They make it so obvious to her that they think she’s a burden
Agree they really should have stuck with just Emilia and Eduardo, they seemed soo much happier growing up than alessia and andrea
Gross. These people have no respect for anyone, not even their partner or children.
I've not watched this family for quite some time. I thought their channel was tanking dramatically ....and then they encourage their eldest son to wear dresses on camera. Nothing wrong with him wanting to wear dresses but, we live in a cruel world ...and I as a parent, would not be subjecting my child to online hate. However, the Saccone Joly's seem to have increased viewers when they vlog something about their older son wearing dresses. The 'hysteria' about this seems to have calmed down and their views are again averaging 60k views again. Jonathan has to think on his feet and come up with another scheme to get people to tune in. He rambles on IG stories about 'finding himself' - without ever getting to the point. The comments are quick to point this out. for example 'Jonathan talks in riddles without actually telling us anything'. From further investigation of his IG stories, it seems that he now wants to dress up in skirts and dresses...like he's the first man on Earth to do this. In my head, this guy is having a midlife crisis. He's in his forties and his audience is dwindling in favour of the younger Youtuber generation of family vloggers.
He's being extremely calculated and, if the rumours are true that he's writing a book about his 'self discovery' then I suspect, this will also tank.. There are real people out there going through genuine agony about self discovery and they aren't doing it for views or 'likes'.
I feel kind of sorry for Anna as she has to go along with anything Jonathan says. I can understand her feeling trapped with this idiot and probably does not have the financial independence to leave with the children. I think she ought to do this before he inflicts any more damage onto the children. I am surprised Anna hasn't been snatched up to co-write a cook book (I'm not saying she's an excellent cook - this is why I said 'co-write')...or design 'easy care' children's clothing. She's still quite young and could forge her own career without the leprechaun in tow
He's being extremely calculated and, if the rumours are true that he's writing a book about his 'self discovery' then I suspect, this will also tank.. There are real people out there going through genuine agony about self discovery and they aren't doing it for views or 'likes'.
I feel kind of sorry for Anna as she has to go along with anything Jonathan says. I can understand her feeling trapped with this idiot and probably does not have the financial independence to leave with the children. I think she ought to do this before he inflicts any more damage onto the children. I am surprised Anna hasn't been snatched up to co-write a cook book (I'm not saying she's an excellent cook - this is why I said 'co-write')...or design 'easy care' children's clothing. She's still quite young and could forge her own career without the leprechaun in tow
What I noticed with that video and other videos is when their sick Anna cooks a meal. Jonathan says he not got much of an appetite either has Emilia but a curry was going to be cook when the family bee sick. I did skim through it though but when your ill dry toast is the only thing you should actually have nothing else. Also Anna let E2 go up the stairs on his own with a bottle she left him for a short time but still these two don't care about safety that word is out the window 100 feet underground. Their do the opposite to every other parent in the world when it comes to safety and illness. Its like their wanting an huge accident to happen so their can film it and say our child in hospital send money to help. Heck no. Your the ones doing dangerous acts with your children.
& they are pieced together from various days, various clips all very random with no thought put into them.
The irony is that, just a week ago, Jonathon was talking about “transactional friends” from YouTube... now, Anna is posting about how no one understands her job and how lonely it is.
Perhaps I’m wrong, but I always got the imprsssion that Jonathon very much saw things as transactional on HIS end - but Anna was more genuine. I am also reflecting on accounts that people have shared re meet-ups in recent threads, were J was distant and every hostile, while A was polite & engaging.
In terms of “friendships” like with Zoe, I feel lik A & Z genuinely got on and Z loved those kids - you can’t take things like her relationship with the two Es, and I always feel sad for both parties that they lost that! Especially given how small their social circle is now.
Then the youtubers came over from America and, again, I feel like A could have fostered genuine relationships with them. At the time, I also got the perception that J was very much “this is content gold“ when they came, yet like with Stacey Dooley made awkward jokes that probably made them (and Anna!) feel very uncomfortable.
I’ve gone off in a tangent here, but I guess what I’m trying to say is that people are there if A wanted (or perhaps felt able?) to talk to them. While I do feel she is far from blameless here, I get a growing sense of how controlling J is and how much he has made A dependent on him for support.
I just hope this is a turning point for A and she realises how toxic this has been for many aspects of her life - not to mention her kids - and works to rebuild connections so she can get out of it. It’s never too late.
Perhaps I’m wrong, but I always got the imprsssion that Jonathon very much saw things as transactional on HIS end - but Anna was more genuine. I am also reflecting on accounts that people have shared re meet-ups in recent threads, were J was distant and every hostile, while A was polite & engaging.
In terms of “friendships” like with Zoe, I feel lik A & Z genuinely got on and Z loved those kids - you can’t take things like her relationship with the two Es, and I always feel sad for both parties that they lost that! Especially given how small their social circle is now.
Then the youtubers came over from America and, again, I feel like A could have fostered genuine relationships with them. At the time, I also got the perception that J was very much “this is content gold“ when they came, yet like with Stacey Dooley made awkward jokes that probably made them (and Anna!) feel very uncomfortable.
I’ve gone off in a tangent here, but I guess what I’m trying to say is that people are there if A wanted (or perhaps felt able?) to talk to them. While I do feel she is far from blameless here, I get a growing sense of how controlling J is and how much he has made A dependent on him for support.
I just hope this is a turning point for A and she realises how toxic this has been for many aspects of her life - not to mention her kids - and works to rebuild connections so she can get out of it. It’s never too late.
Yeah but then Anna never leaves the house.. how would she ever maintain any friendships if she never goes out and socialises? There was nothing stopping Anna to go out and about during the day either with the kids or without as she's got a nanny to care for the children or Jonathan. But yet she never does. I know they always claim they do have friends but just don't film it, but they never mention oh I met up with a friend this morning for a walk or to take the kids to the farm together or went round to their house for dinner...
Oh absolutely. They had the 3rd child because their views were dropping, and they knew the whole cycle of pregnancy announcement, gender announcement, pregnancy updates, the birth vlog and the baby updates would bring in some more views.
However, it soon became apparent that they could not handle a 3rd child. Alessia was often kept alone upstairs with Anna, and then developed a different personality than the others. Whether that is nature or nuture, who's to say?
She was often referred to as naughty, difficult, different, all kinds of negative things. Very sad.
And then of course they had to have a 4th child as Anna can't handle uneven numbers, and I feel that with Andrea they didn't even bother at all.......... He's just left to his own devices, resulting in to numerous bumps and bruises, mainly on his face..... poor thing.
Exactly. And you just know that they would film at least some of it, they just can't help themselves.
Anna used to meet up with Lauren I think she's called, a local girl who's also into vlogging I believe. Anna clearly looked down on her, she works in her family car valet business, but at least they would go out for breakfast every now and then. That stopped, perhaps due to Covid, but I feel like it was even before that?
They are terrible at maintaining any friendships, probably because of their need to film everything, and possibly because Jonathan makes everything awkward. Anna on her own can be quite friendly I suppose, but how genuine is that? And she could never go for a girl's day out, as she's so rigid with her schedule she can't change things up for the occasion.
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They are both narcissists, just different types. J would be the more overt classic type but A is covert. She comes across as way more genuine but it's a mask. He is a terrible liar, she is a good one (on the surface). But both are just as toxic. Behind the scenes I'd imagine the arguments are epic and regular but they will stay together. Each controls the other but in different ways. Neither could make another relationship successful with a 'normie'. They both have the same priorities goals and world view and need each other to make it happen. Perfect for each other. She will never leave him, with or without the kids.
Of course parents will be contacting the school and registering their concerns. What actual support is E2 receiving outside of J buying him dresses? You can't paint this any other way than exploitation of this child; E2 is simply fodder for clicks and likes. It would be very concerning if no one was bothered and thought it was acceptable behavior.
She absolutely wouldn't want sole care of them! I don't think she would walk out on him either. If she had to choose between him and the kids, she'd choose him. She has sat still and supported and allowed him to do the grossest things for years. She's upset now but not at Jonathan, just at those that they consider have betrayed them and because her sedentary, entitled lifestyle may be at risk; it's not his fault in her mind. He is simply providing the family with all the worldly goods they want and she doesn't care what he does to achieve that; it really doesn't matter if he destroys her children's lives in the process. As long as she has money; servants; a big house, etc., everything is fine. She, like him, is too stupid to understand that what they have done is simply wrong, nor could they attempt to understand why is it is wrong. Despite her background, she is really no wiser than he is and when you know that Margaret has "liked" his recent posts, it says a lot about her supposed intelligence too.
It will be interesting to see how Anna copes with the school run from now on!
It's exploitation, plain and simple. He is monetizing his own kids to have his dream lifestyle. He doesn't see them as individuals - they're his kids, and he can film them if he wants. He doesn't realise how utterly selfish that is - all he sees is money. They'll grow up and absolutely hate him - I can guarantee it.
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