I just checked in google but no statement made so far.As others said upthread it is possible he died / was already dead at the time of the visiting private ambulance.
I just checked in google but no statement made so far.As others said upthread it is possible he died / was already dead at the time of the visiting private ambulance.Is he dead yet!?
That's what I meant, it's a tragedy that is all his fault.The only people l have sympathy for are his victims.
I wouldnt describe the actions of a p edo as a tragedy. Criminal, yes.That's what I meant, it's a tragedy that is all his fault.
What did he do to Vanessa Feltz?Grooming and abusing young teenagers is still child abuse, I don’t think it helps to compare abusers of X age group with Y age group.
JS and RH both abused people who were underage, and of adult age, it’s key to remember they were both prolific sexual offenders, which included child abuse.
How bulletproof do you have to feel to do what RH did to Vanessa Feltz on live tv? The utter arrogance, the gall to behave that way in plain sight.
The word paedophile has become a catch word for any sexual activity on a child under the age of consent, but I've read it is a term for abuse of a pre pubescent child, I can't remember the name for those who pray on post pubescent children though. So I know what you mean.I've always struggled with this one.
I got to meet Savile once as a kid (don't ask...) and he gave off serious "keep away from the weirdo" vibes even back then. But with Rolf Harris it's different. I guess a lot of it is to do with what we call "child abuse". There's no excusing sexual abuse of any kind, and predatory behaviour is predatory behaviour no matter what age or gender or sexuality the perpetrator. But I find it really difficult to brand someone as a pedalo when the victim is a mid-to-late teen or thereabouts. It's sexual abuse for sure, and there are all sorts of boundaries crossed when it comes to adult men grooming young teenagers for sex, but paedophilia is something else entirely. There is a special place in hell for those people, but because we brand all sexual abuse of teenagers as "child abuse", it paints a really dangerous and untruthful picture about these people.
Rolf Harris may well be guilty of sexual assault, inappropriate sexual contact with his daughter's friend and things, but he wasn't a pedalo in my book. He wasn't very nice, but the label pedalo is not justified and should be reserved for the likes of Gary Glitter and Jimmy Savile who had sex with children. Proper children who don't have a voice, not teenagers who are borderline adults and who may be vulnerable, but not as defenceless as actual children.
I hope I don't come across as excusing RH's behaviour because I'm not. I'm just trying to point out that child sexual abuse is different from other forms of sexual abuse and because we blur the lines, the truth is covered up.
on live tv in front of his wife and the crewWhat did he do to Vanessa Feltz?
I think it's hebephile or something, an Interest in pubescent youthsThe word paedophile has become a catch word for any sexual activity on a child under the age of consent, but I've read it is a term for abuse of a pre pubescent child, I can't remember the name for those who pray on post pubescent children though. So I know what you mean.
Either way they are filthy scum that don't deserve to breathe the same air as other people. Well, imho they don't deserve to be able to breathe at all.
Who is making excuses? I clearly said that I'm not excusing any of what he did, but I was questioning the language used to describe his actions. There is a difference between those who assault children and those who assault teens and adult women. All are vile, and as a survivor myself I am not excusing a single thing he did.Wasn't said friend very young at the time? Like under 10? That definitely qualifies as child abuse, regardless of any other excuses you might make.
I think the difference is consent, under 16 cannot legally (uk) consent any female (or male) above that age can refuse consent regardless of what has happened up until consent is withdrawn. Anything without consent is sexual abuse if not more.Who is making excuses? I clearly said that I'm not excusing any of what he did, but I was questioning the language used to describe his actions. There is a difference between those who assault children and those who assault teens and adult women. All are vile, and as a survivor myself I am not excusing a single thing he did.
Language matters, especially to the victim.
I wanted to apply for Jim'll Fix It and my mum was fine with it but my nana said there was no way in hell it was happening. She wouldn't say why to me but pretty soon after, my mum started agreeing with her. I wanted to meet Take That and so I was mad about it. After I started watching to see what was so that bad that they didn't want me going on it, I finally realized how handy he was with the females and twigged something wasn't right. I went to her and she told me all the stories that had been going around about him since the 60s so when the truth first started trickling out it wasn't that much of a surprise but as time went on and the stories of him going into the morgues for hours at a time came out, even she was shocked at how sick he was.There’s only one reason a private ambulance would be outside his house, so yes I think he’s died too.
It’s quite shocking that he was yet another one as he always came over like he was a genuine nice guy. My late Mum and Dad use to see him occasionally at antique fairs in Kent with his wife and my Dad said he was really friendly to talk to. Just goes to show
Saville on the other hand, God, even as a kid watching Jim’ll fix it he gave off creepy vibes. I can’t beleive the scale of the cover up for him, from the BBC to the NHS! Beyond disgraceful. Also always wondered why the hell people in government would hand him the keys to Broadmore of all places!
Tbh I really don't like making this distinction, even though I realise it's a technical term.The word paedophile has become a catch word for any sexual activity on a child under the age of consent, but I've read it is a term for abuse of a pre pubescent child, I can't remember the name for those who pray on post pubescent children though. So I know what you mean.
Either way they are filthy scum that don't deserve to breathe the same air as other people. Well, imho they don't deserve to be able to breathe at all.
Jesus, that’s the same behaviour as Saville isn’t it!on live tv in front of his wife and the crew
Linda Nolan and Vanessa Feltz among raft of new Rolf Harris 'victims'
Vanessa Feltz (pictured with Harris), 52, and Linda Nolan, 55, both claim he pounced on them in separate attacks - in London in 1996 and in South Africa in 1975.www.dailymail.co.uk
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