Real Life Crime and Murder #21

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Haven’t seen this mentioned.how can anyone be covering for him for such a hideous crime.

I suspect he was out of the country Friday evening/early hours of Saturday before they knew who they were looking for. I cannot get my head around how someone could hit someone and just keep driving. I don’t think I’d be physically able to drive if I hit someone.
 
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Watching the Karen Read trial on Andrea Burkhart's steam and I really don't agree with Andrea about the texts.

According to her, the texts show John in a bad light - because he is not treating Karen Read as a person yadda, yadda...
MY problem is earlier in the trial wasn't there stuff about the ATF agent who gave Proctor screenshots in which he confessed to kissing and flirting with Karen Read?
And when Proctor was embarrassing himself, didn't he say that this ATF agent was only 'joking around' when he was squaring up for a fight with someone at the party?
And wasn't it implied by the the defence that this ATF agent may have been involved in the alleged fight in the house?

Do these texts, and the 19 phone calls (11 of which were rejected) amount to a motive?
I don't know.
But I don't think they are as great for Karen Read as Andrea does.
 
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It’s a bit wild where I live atm. Police tonight were chasing after a car with no sirens or blue lights on and have hit a motorcyclist instead and killed the man. It says in the guardian that they was responding to a routine call and I can’t remember the exact phrase used. But basically there was no need for the speeding without the sirens etc. really sad. Can see it causing a load of problems for the police here. Especially since it’s on a 20 Mph road.
 
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I'm finding the cow story so distressing I'm going to have to take a break. It's everywhere, in increasingly graphic detail, and while it's important to bring these bastards to account I don't need this in my head just now.

Does anyone else find true crime gets a bit much to handle sometimes?
Yes particularly when it comes to animals. I make a massive effort now to avoid videos and stories rather than allowing myself to watch them.
 
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I agree.

Grief makes you irrational in so many ways - it just tears the earth from under you and you don't know which way is up. I wouldn't criticise them for anything they said or thought at this heartbreaking time - and I do feel sorry for the killer's parents who are being blamed for something they didn't do and couldn't have prevented. It's a very sad situation.
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Cries Unheard by Gita Sereny

I read this one many years ago - it is harrowing. Mary Bell's early life was HELL with her mother - absolute hell.

We none of us know what others go through or how it shapes them - and it is a cycle that is so heard to break.
My friends Mam was in the same Primary class as Mary Bell. Said she was unremarkable and clearly abused.
 
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Yes particularly when it comes to animals. I make a massive effort now to avoid videos and stories rather than allowing myself to watch them.
Agree. - Anything about children or animals upsets so much. I can't shake the stories off and they haunt me.
 
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Here is an interesting case....



To fill in the background...
JF Gareiepy is biologist, and minor e-celeb, who dreams of creating an ethno-state in Canada.
To that end he married/got the legal guardianship of a girl/woman with a mental age of 10, in order to breed the master race.
Last year, he dropped her off near some woods - and she hasn't been seen since.

Oh and the police weren't informed (for I believe about a month) when she disappeared.
And he (in his words) sterilized the house - not you understand because he had done anything, but simply to cleanse the house of 'the female presence'.

The video is Andy Warski (JF's ex-co host on the Killstream) and PPP reviewing an interview JF gave to Lauren deLaguna concerning his wife's disappearance.
Keep in mind that Kino Casino is a drama channel.
Also keep in mind that if you are a woman you may not understand what JF is talking about because you are (in his words) a robot and a lower functioning being....
 
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Here is an interesting case....



To fill in the background...
JF Gareiepy is biologist, and minor e-celeb, who dreams of creating an ethno-state in Canada.
To that end he married/got the legal guardianship of a girl/woman with a mental age of 10, in order to breed the master race.
Last year, he dropped her off near some woods - and she hasn't been seen since.

Oh and the police weren't informed (for I believe about a month) when she disappeared.
And he (in his words) sterilized the house - not you understand because he had done anything, but simply to cleanse the house of 'the female presence'.

The video is Andy Warski (JF's ex-co host on the Killstream) and PPP reviewing an interview JF gave to Lauren deLaguna concerning his wife's disappearance.
Keep in mind that Kino Casino is a drama channel.
Also keep in mind that if you are a woman you may not understand what JF is talking about because you are (in his words) a robot and a lower functioning being....
I’ve just gone down this rabbit hole and it’s totally 🤯
 
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I’ve seen hardly any reporting of this
French reports have said one of the rapists was her boyfriend who was angry she had hid her Jewish identity and they found anti semitic abuse on his phone. They allegedly vaginally and anally raped her, forced her to perform oral sex and hurled antisemitic abuse at her whilst doing so. They then threatened to kill her if she went to the police. Some reports have said they referenced Palestine during the rapes.
 
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A 7 month old baby has been killed by their family dog😔. Dog was apparently not a dangerous breed and has since been put down

In the name of God - why do people leave children and dogs together with our properly watching them? The poor little baby - dog bites are horrifically painful. My heart aches for her, and her family.
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I’ve seen hardly any reporting of this
French reports have said one of the rapists was her boyfriend who was angry she had hid her Jewish identity and they found anti semitic abuse on his phone. They allegedly vaginally and anally raped her, forced her to perform oral sex and hurled antisemitic abuse at her whilst doing so. They then threatened to kill her if she went to the police. Some reports have said they referenced Palestine during the rapes.
And this - there are no words. there really are no words.
 
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In the name of God - why do people leave children and dogs together with our properly watching them? The poor little baby - dog bites are horrifically painful. My heart aches for her, and her family.
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It's bloody awful. Regardless of how you feel about your own dog they are an animal. I don't even allow my dog and cats to interact without supervision and without an escape for the cats just in case.
I adore my dog and am 99% certain he wouldn't do anything ever but all it takes is one trigger and he could flip completely.

People do not take dogs seriously. Thr amount of times a toddler has come up to stroke my dog whilst I've been out walking him and the parents just laugh and giggle like it is nothing.
It makes me so angry.
 
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It's bloody awful. Regardless of how you feel about your own dog they are an animal. I don't even allow my dog and cats to interact without supervision and without an escape for the cats just in case.
I adore my dog and am 99% certain he wouldn't do anything ever but all it takes is one trigger and he could flip completely.

People do not take dogs seriously. Thr amount of times a toddler has come up to stroke my dog whilst I've been out walking him and the parents just laugh and giggle like it is nothing.
It makes me so angry.
I’ve never not had dogs. My current ones are decently trained working breeds and are friendy, socialised and content. They’ve never shown an iota of aggression.

Would I leave any of them unattended with a child of any age? Absolutely not!!! A) they’re animals with animal instincts and b) children can’t always read the warning signs when a dog is upset.

I will happily tell children and parents not to touch my/any dogs without permission. Most of them don’t care though 😔
 
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Poor Leah, I remember when she went missing. At least the family has answers but the prick had to kill himself.
This was all so awful. I’m relieved for the family that she was found, but they had to wait for so, so long.
Having read that, a bag of limbs - I didn’t know that detail before 😔
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It's bloody awful. Regardless of how you feel about your own dog they are an animal. I don't even allow my dog and cats to interact without supervision and without an escape for the cats just in case.
I adore my dog and am 99% certain he wouldn't do anything ever but all it takes is one trigger and he could flip completely.

People do not take dogs seriously. Thr amount of times a toddler has come up to stroke my dog whilst I've been out walking him and the parents just laugh and giggle like it is nothing.
It makes me so angry.
I have a spaniel who is amazing with my children (16 and 5) - the youngest she absolutely adores, has never ever shown a hint of aggression, but children are loud, excitable, unpredictable, so they aren’t left alone.

My teenager is obviously very sensible and I’ve taught my 5 year old since the very beginning that you never, ever approach a dog you don’t know without asking the owner first (and with me there!) and then you let it sniff your hand, if it doesn’t want to interact then you leave it.

A dog who has had a baby join the household will be trying to adjust constantly to new noises, movements, touch. It’s heartbreaking to think your beloved pet could ever hurt anyone but like you say it just takes one thing.
 
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Something I'm confused about in the Karen Read trial.

She drops him off (ignore for now whether it was snowing at the time or not (because it was later))), he doesn't come home,, or answer any of her numerous calls...
Why is it so incriminating that she googles "how long does it take to die of cold" - or whatever the exact wording was...
 
Something I'm confused about in the Karen Read trial.

She drops him off (ignore for now whether it was snowing at the time or not (because it was later))), he doesn't come home,, or answer any of her numerous calls...
Why is it so incriminating that she googles "how long does it take to die of cold" - or whatever the exact wording was...
KR didn't Google it Jen McCabe did. She says that sue did it when they found Johm around 6/6.30 as Karen asked her to but one of the searches is timestamped around 2.15 but experts have said this was because she searched on a tab she had opened at 2.15.
 
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This was all so awful. I’m relieved for the family that she was found, but they had to wait for so, so long.
Having read that, a bag of limbs - I didn’t know that detail before 😔
I’d not seen that before either. As if it could have got any worse for Leah’s family 😢
 
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Has anyone been following the story of Jay Slater who has gone missing in Teneriefe?
It looks like it's a bit more complicated than him simply going missing walking back in the early hours from a party .
 
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Has anyone been following the story of Jay Slater who has gone missing in Teneriefe?
It looks like it's a bit more complicated than him simply going missing walking back in the early hours from a party .
There's a thread on this case now if you want to join us. Sorry I'm not sure how to link it 😅
 
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